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Loan Watch season 17/18

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Thread for the new season.

Current players out on loan:

Pedro Chirivella (Willem II)
Connor Randall (Hearts)
Taiwo Awoniyi (Mouscron)
Shamal George (Carlisle United)
Sheyi Ojo (Fulham)
Divock Origi (Wolfsburg)
Allan (Apollon Limassol)
Toni Gomes (Forest Green)
Jordan Williams (Rochdale)
Ryan Kent (Freiburg)

and..

Naby Keita (RB Leipzig)
 
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@King Binny would you like to take it from here as you done a sterling job at it last season?

Sorry that the thread actually peter out as I got busier. Let's all post related news and updates as we come across them. Btw, shall we add Keita to the list? :p

Shamal George on the bench for Carlisle United today (Carlisle 1 - 1 Mansfield)

George played in the Football League Trophy Group stage game in midweek and kept a clean sheet (Morecambe 0 - 2 Carlisle)


Toni Gomes came on at half time for Forest Green (Wycombe 3 - 1 Forest Green)

  • HT| SUB FOR FGR: One change at the break as Wishart makes way for deadline day signing Toni Gomes.
  • 73| Noble's free kick is spilled by 'keeper Scott Brown and Gomes is nearly on hand to poke home the loose ball but it's well cleared
  • 86| Gomes gets on the end of a James flick and cuts inside beating his man. His effort on goal is well blocked for a corner

Jordan Williams started for Rochdale (Southend 0-0 Rochdale) - Rochdale down to 10 men after 50 mins.
[article]Jordan Williams was a main target for us - KH
Keith Hill spoke to iFollow after recruiting Jordan Williams on loan until January…

The Gaffer had been keen to recruit the Liverpool Academy product during the close season, and he is pleased to have completed the signing.

“He was a main target for us through the summer," Hill said.

“We were constantly in contact with Liverpool and his representatives about Jordan Williams but he was very sought after.

“It came down to the wire but we managed to get the job done, which is a great signing from our perspective.

“He’s a very, very adept central midfielder. He’s got a great stature about him. We’re looking forward to working with him.”[/article]

  • 9. CLOSE! Williams (11) forces Oxley into a save & the goalkeeper turns the strike onto the post!
  • 12. Done is clattered into & Dale are awarded a free-kick on the right. Williams (11) drives it into near post & Southend defend away
  • 27. Corner to Dale. Williams (11) sends the corner towards the back post where Canavan wins the header, but Southend defend out of the area
  • 31. Williams (11) runs at goal & attempts to break into the area but there's a well-timed challenge from Bwomono to stop him
  • 35. YELLOW CARD: Rafferty is caught late & Dale have a free-kick out on the right, tight to the touchline. McLaughlin goes in the book. Williams (11) sends the free-kick into the area. It's won by Done but Southend are quick to defend the ball away #RAFC
  • McLaughlin takes the set-piece & fires it into the area. Williams (11) gets a head on it to take it behind for a corner
  • DALE SUB: OFF Williams (11), ON Inman

Taiwo Awoniyi
 
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There's only 2! One of which went to a rich club who would pay his wages.

Could argue he was English
Allan went to Germany on loan as well. I can't recall us loaning out players to German clubs before.
 
Allan went to Germany on loan as well. I can't recall us loaning out players to German clubs before.
Perhaps, but we've never really loaned players to Cypriot teams either
 
With a stellar record of yoof players coming through the ranks in Germany it's a good platform so I'm hopeful Origi and Kent will benefit. De Bruyne rejuvenated his career at Wolfsburg before his big move to City so there maybe hope for Big Divock.
 
Ex-scout Julian Ward (yes, the one credited with the "findings" of Aspas, Illori, Moreno and Markovic etc.) who is now the Loan Pathways & Football Partnerships Manager was apparently heavily involved in deciding where the players are sent out on loan to (amongst those interested).

I'm a little pessimistic about Allan's future at the club. From Finland to Belgium then Germany and now Cyprus. Would it have been better served if he gets to stay in a specific team for a couple of seasons or remain in the same league while hopefully moving up the ladder to bigger clubs there? One plus point though is they are involved in the Europa League (same group as Everton).

Taiwo Awoniyi is another - Germany, Netherlands and now Belgium. Another issue is that over the past 3 yrs of loan, they haven't consistently gotten regular football. Could end up the Armin Hodzic pathway (i.e. signed but failed to get work permit eventually and left the club). Hopefully there will be some kind of loan term planning even for loans.
 
Yeah, if he's not making an impact at his age then he's really not going to cut the mustard
 
Im thinking of the difficulties he's having in getting a work permit.
Predominantly because he's not seen as having an extraordinary talent /ability by the him office. A decent loan spell could change that
 
Allan is only at the Cypriot side because they're in the europa league .

I imagine there had been assurances made that he will get some EL appearances whilst they're in it (assuming they go out at the group stage) that will help considerably with the prospect of getting his visa sorted .

No idea if he's any good like
 
Can we count Keita in the loan watch?

Looking superb:



I fear by the time he arrives though, we'll have lost Can and sold Coutinho.
 
He looks very good. Didn't realise he was such a playmaker. Loves to beat a man.

A mix between Kante and Deco they said.. I didn't think it was possible, but he seems to be a very progressive player.

The only concern is he's actually not a true DM. RB Leipzig play a 4-4-2 with Demme being the sitting midfielder and Keita being box to box.

Having said that, whilst I think he'll play in the number 8 position, I still think he will give us more a bit more defensive stability than a Wini/Cout/Can/Lallana can.
 
Keita looks like a special talent. We just have to keep Can. Can + Keita would be an amazing midfield.
 
Stepovers! He does stepovers. In midfield. Good ones!

Would be amazing to have both him and Coutinho in midfield (if it would work) as either one can carrry the ball forward marked or not.
 

[article]Hannover chief Horst Heldt insist there's no bitterness over Ryan Kent's move to Freiburg.

The Liverpool midfielder signed for Freiburg on deadline day after weeks of talks with Hannover.


However, Heldt insists Hannover was not caught out, explaining: "On our side, there was a clear agreement. The conditions had been set."

Those "conditions" for Hannover president Martin Kind were for Kent to be only signed if an attacking player was offloaded. In the end there was no place for Kent to fill.

"Freiburg definitely did not rip us off," added Heldt.

Kent has joined Freiburg on a season-long loan.[/article]
 
Bild's report today mention that the loan fee for Origi is €3m and will increase if he fails to get games. Sounds more reasonable than the £6m which was mentioned earlier.



[article]Shortly before the summer transfer window closes, the Wolves have secured the services of Divock Origi. The 22-year-old Belgian international makes a one-year loan move from English Premier League side Liverpool FC to VfL Wolfsburg, where he will wear the number 14 jersey. A purchase option has not been agreed, with the details of the loan transfer remaining undisclosed. Born in Ostende, Belgium on April 18th, 1995, Origi moved to from OSC Lille to Liverpool in the summer of 2014, but initially remained at the French first division side for a further year on loan. As from 2015, the talented young attacker began his active Liverpool career and has since made 51 Premier League appearances for the Reds (twelve goals, five assists), as well as making twelve appearances in the UEFA Europa League (two goals, two assists).

"In Divock Origi, we have secured the services of the attacking player we had most desired. He has often proven his undoubted quality both nationally as well as internationally and, for his age, boasts an enormous amount of experience. Divock is a pacy, determined and dangerous attacker, who will make our offensive play more varied and unpredictable," stated sporting director Olaf Rebbe. The Belgian signing is equally enthusiastic about the new challenge. Divock Origi: "I am excited to join Wolfsburg on loan for the season and am looking forward to the challenge of playing in the Bundesliga, a league that I have always regarded as one of the best in the world. Once it became apparent that Liverpool would allow me to leave on loan it was clear in my mind that Wolfsburg would be the best option for me. I was really impressed with what the club had to say with regards to their ambitions for this season and can't wait to get started. I am looking forward to what I hope will be a big season for the club and will give everything to try and help the team be as successful as possible on the pitch."

Divock Origi has been through all of Belgium’s nation youth teams from Under 15 level onwards, eventually making his 'A' international debut on May 26th, 2014. So far, the attacker has won 23 caps with the ‘Red Devils’ - including two run-outs at the 2016 European Championships in France – scoring three goals for his country. Wolves fans have previously had the opportunity to view the new-man’s talents at the Volkswagen Arena: During the 1-1 draw with OSC Lille at the group stage of the 2014/2015 UEFA Europa League campaign, Origi converted from the spot for the visitors.[/article]



[article]Wolfsburg say that Jurgen Klopp may have played a role in Divock Origi’s loan move to the Bundesliga, with the club’s sporting director Olaf Rebbe saying “20 clubs were after him.”

Several clubs were interested in the Belgium international, with his dad and agent saying last week there was interest from Tottenham as well as France and Germany.

Speaking to Bild, Wolfsburg sporting director Olaf Rebbe said that Origi was one of the most wanted players on the market this summer.

“Over 20 clubs were after Divock,” Rebbe said, adding that former Borussia Dortmund and Mainz coach Jurgen Klopp might have played an important role for Wolfsburg to help them secure the loan deal.

“It might very well be a factor that Jurgen Klopp knows Bundesliga and also [Wolfsburg],” Rebbe said. “He knows which platform he has when he gives a player away.”

Meanwhile, Bild reported on Monday that Origi will get more expensive for Wolfsburg the less he plays.

The paper claimed that the basic loan fee of €3 million could for instance increase by 20 percent if Origi only were to play 80 percent of the matches possible.

Wolfsburg did not comment on the clause.

Bild also reported that Liverpool have the chance to recall Origi in January, as reported by English media last week.[/article]
 
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[article]Wolfsburg coach Andries Jonker said he has been impressed with "physical" Liverpool loanee Divock Origi after he injured an under-23 player in his first outing for the Bundesliga side.

Belgium international Origi, 22, joined Wolfsburg on a season-long loan from Liverpool on deadline day and, ahead of his expected debut in the derby with Hannover on Saturday, he was given a run-out against Wolfsburg's U23 side in an inter-squad friendly.

"One of the amateurs ran at him, and that lad was injured," Wolfsburg coach Andries Jonker said with a chuckle. "He's definitely one who can use his body, and who is physical."

Wolfsburg secured Origi's signature despite saying they faced competition from "more than 20 clubs."[/article]
 
Keita was impressive and scored a cracking goal. Limped off with 5 mins to go, hopefully nothing serious.
 
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[article]Pedro Chirivella (Willem II) - played full match in midfield [Willem II 1-2 ADO Den Haag]

Connor Randall (Hearts) - played full match as right wing back [Hearts 0-0 Aberdeen]

Taiwo Awoniyi (Mouscron) - played 60 mins as a striker [Mouscron 2-1 Club Brugge]

Shamal George (Carlisle United) - unused substitute [Accrington Stanley 3-0 Carlisle United]

Sheyi Ojo (Fulham) - not in matchday squad [Fulham 1-1 Cardiff]

Divock Origi (Wolfsburg) - played full match up front [Wolfsburg 1-1 Hannover]

Allan (Apollon Limassol) - unused substitute [Olympiakos Nicosia 1-1 Apollon Limassol]

Toni Gomes (Forest Green) - played 58 mins as a striker [Forest Green 1-3 Exeter City]

Jordan Williams (Rochdale) - played full match in midfield [Rochdale 0-3 Blackburn]

Ryan Kent (Freiburg) - not in matchday squad [Freiburg 0 -0 Dortmund][/article]
None of the players' sides won a match o_O
 
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