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Champ league SEMI final

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    keniget Well-Known

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    Can you play both Kroos and Muller?

    I was assuming that Kroos was starting ahead of Muller and having not seen much of him before I was impressed. He's got very good balance and ability with the ball at his feet. Some of his passing was forced at times but I'm not sure if that was down to tactics of getting the ball forward as fast as possible or a young players decision making that will improve over time.
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    bayern looked pretty ordinary apart from their wide players. I was impressed that the entire eam worked for each and all seemed very capable on the ball.
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    real looked pretty ordinary to me as well. I actually think they could go out because BL are more than capable of kiling them on the counter attack.
    spider-neil, Apr 18, 2012
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    quite looking forward to the barca game to tonight. my second team vs the scum of the fucking earth. can't wait.
    spider-neil, Apr 18, 2012
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    I thought quite the opposite. Cracking game by two absolute top class footballing giants - the first half in particular was excellent. Bayern weren't at their best and it does, as I mentioned earlier, make me wonder. They feel the pressure of living up to their own exceptional standards in front of their own fans at times. They were very rarely in flow against Real but, in all honesty, they were playing against some of the best players in the world. Gomez had a bad night and still caused them loads of trouble; and then the wide players you mention must include Lahm cause he was immense. They've got about the best keeper in the world just now; all that was missing was their midfield operating properly.

    For Keni; yeah, you can play Kroos and Muller together. Kroos generally plays deeper than Muller who is as likely to split the defense with a pass as be the one on the end of a loose ball or a cut back to put it away. I honestly think it seems a little like Real and Raul in that Schweinstagger doesn't really add value to them at this point but is picked when available. If they play Muller and Kroos I think that will crush the life out of Real; Alonso and co struggled as it was but were still in the game. I think Muller and the movement he brings would have proved - or will prove - too much for Madrid to contain.

    That said, Madrid have already shown they have the quality to worry Munich at the back. Tremendously intriguing 2nd leg.
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    Do you not think it would leave the midfield a little exposed?

    Schweinstieger is surely there to provide a bit more steel and help Gustavo out.
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    I definately liked how quickly BM moved the move from front to back because their centre backs were so accomplished on the ball.
    very organised, very solid and great ability on the ball. there is no reason why we can't become what BL are right now in the space of no more than two years. it's certainly more achieveable than becoming what barca are, imho that would take at least 5 years.
    spider-neil, Apr 18, 2012
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    BL?

    You mean munich?
    Fabio, Apr 18, 2012
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    sorry, yes.
    spider-neil, Apr 18, 2012
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    I think the idea of having him in the team provides more steel than the reality; though I admit that may just be me.

    He plays too far forward IMO to provide the defensive steel necessary but doesn't provide the movement required by Lahm, Ribery and Robben to provide the outlet.

    Bayern playing at their best don't need to provide too much defensive protection; no doubt that need increases as the opposition improves but I think it's almost a case of who blinks first in this regard. If they look to provide that defensive protection they'll find it's necessary.

    Muller and Kroos cause too many problems for the opposition to be worried about their own solidity.
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    You're such an optimist.
    redsar, Apr 18, 2012
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    We should look to help Madrid offload a couple of CMs in the Summer. Gago and Şahin aint getting a sniff, but is sure better than what we have.
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    Gago is crap. I'd give Şahin a go though.
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    Gago is good at keeping the ball. I like him.
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    Şahin most def.
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    No Torres for Chelsea. Bench.
    John McGovern, Apr 18, 2012
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    I said as much during the match, but I thought Gustavo looked an excellent prospect last night.
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    Chelsea XI vs. Barcelona: Cech; Ivanović, Cahill, Terry, Cole; Lampard, Mikel; Meireles, Ramires, Mata; Drogba.

    Barcelona XI vs. Chelsea: Valdés; Alves, Puyol, Mascherano, Adriano; Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta; Fàbregas, Alexis, Messi.

    Subs:

    cfc: Turnbull, Essien, Torres, Malouda, Bosingwa, Kalou, Sturridge.
    fcb Pinto, Pique, Thiago A, Keita, Pedro, Bartra, Cuenca
    livvy145, Apr 18, 2012
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    Mascher up against Drogba could be interesting
    Brendan4PM, Apr 18, 2012
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    I hope Mascher breaks the cunt's legs.
    Sheik Yerbouti, Apr 18, 2012
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    mash can fuck off, the tit
    Skullflower, Apr 18, 2012
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    Yeah he's a tit but I'd still like to see him inflict career ending damage on that twat.
    Sheik Yerbouti, Apr 18, 2012
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    i'd rather he ended torres' career, the tit
    Skullflower, Apr 18, 2012
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    Ok
    Sheik Yerbouti, Apr 18, 2012
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    Any links to the game guys
    Shadey, Apr 18, 2012
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