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Who is the better striker - Danny Ings or Charlie Austin?
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Charlie Austin will be a sought after commodity in the summer
Danny Ings and Charlie Austin could both taste the bitter pill of relegation this season but which should be the most sought after summer signing?
ustin has battled his way from non-league football to the top, while serving a solid apprenticeship in the football league along the way.​

Alex Johnson
Published: 14 April 2015
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It has been quite a season for young English strikers in the Premier League.
Harry Kane has stolen most of the headlines while there has also been England recognition for West Brom's Saido Berahino.
Kane and Berahino look set to be in the top flight again next season but for two other promising English goalscorers the future is less certain.
As Burnley and QPR desperately attempt to stave off relegation, strikers Danny Ings and Charlie Austin continue to be key components in their respective survival bids.
Both front men are likely to be in high demand this summer but who is the more promising talent - Austin or Ings?
Things have gone a little quiet for Austin and Ings in recent weeks - just two goals in 13 appearances between them - and if Burney or QPR are going to survive they will need to hit form over the next month.
At 25, Austin has three years worth of experience over Ings. He also has had the benefit of arriving in the Premier League the hard way.
Austin has battled his way from non-league football to the top, while serving a solid apprenticeship in the football league along the way.
Arguably Austin's most appealing trait is that he has maintained his scoring ratio at each level as he climbed the ladder.
He made the step from League One at Swindon into the Championship where he preceded Ings at Turf Moor with Burnley.
Having moved to Loftus Road and helped QPR return to the Premier League last season, Austin has matched his tally of 17 Championship goals amongst the big boys this season.
It is a hugely admirable trait, and clearly Austin is a natural goalscorer regardless of the level he is playing at.
Where the likes of Leonardo Ulloa at Leicester and Graziano Pelle have struggled to maintain their form in the Premier League after starting quickly, Austin has managed to keep finding the net on a regular basis - despite playing in a struggling team.
He trails only to Kane, Diego Costa and Sergio Aguero in the goalscoring charts at this stage of the season, a pretty remarkable feat given QPR have been forced to feed off scraps for much of the season.
Ings on the other hand has not been anything like as prolific as Austin.
The Burnley man is much more prone to a run of games without scoring. He went eight games at the start of the season before finding the net - albeit at a time when Burnley appeared out of their depth - and has now gone seven games since he last scored at Old Trafford back in February.
Ings' performance against Manchester United in Burnley's 3-1 defeat that night is probably the benchmark for the Burnley man in his first season at this level.
For 45 minutes he was a constant menace to the United defence during the first half, holding the ball up and bringing teammates into the game, while his general movement off the ball was impressive as Burnley proved a match for their illustrious opponents.
Ings levelled the game after Christ Smalling had put United in front and in doing so brought his tally to nine goals in 21 Premier League games.
Despite losing the game, it was a night when Ings outshone United's big name summer signing Radamel Falcao with his movement and interplay.
Recent press reports suggest he may have left a lasting impression on Louis van Gaal with his performance in that game as Man United are now rumoured to be considering a move for Ings when his contract runs out this summer at Turf Moor.
There has also been talk of a move to Liverpool while David Moyes is said to be interested in taking Ings to Real Sociedad.
At 22, Ings is still learning his trade as a striker. His failure to score in seven games can perhaps be offset by the fact Burnley have played the remaining six of the top seven teams in the land since losing at Old Trafford.
It has been a remarkably tough spell for Sean Dyche's side and they have scored just twice. To their credit, they have collected four points with those two goals and remain in touch and three points from safety with six games left to play.
It isn't hard to imagine Ings will need to rediscover his scoring touch in those six games if Burney are to survive but with Leicester, Hull, Stoke and Aston Villa all to face that is not an impossible dream.
In this maiden voyage in the Premier League, Ings must surely be judged by performances against those rivals in and around Burnley in the crucial final weeks of the season as opposed to the backs-to-the-wall efforts against teams at the other end of the table.
With two goals in his last three appearances, QPR boss Chris Ramsey must be desperately hoping Austin is about to hit a run of goalscoring form.
The peak run for Austin this season saw him score nine times in nine outings in the league from late October up until Christmas.
As with Ings, Austin's end of term report is surely going to be compiled in the games where QPR get the chance to save their skin.
Trips to Liverpool and Manchester City are likely to yield little reward but the visits of West Ham and Newcastle to West London and a potentially make or break game at Leicester on the final afternoon of the season offer Austin the chance to become a QPR folk hero.
As they near the end of their first Premier League season both Austin and Ings have rightfully earned plenty praise.
They share similar traits - both have shown the versatility to score with right and left foot while they Ings' three headed goals trails Austin by one - a surprising statistic perhaps.
With three years more experience and having battled from non-league to top, Austin gets the nod over Ings at this stage.
Both have impressed enough in the last nine months that it seems safe to assume no matter what the final fate of QPR or Burnley should be this season, Ings and Austin will have plenty offers to remain as highly promising Premier League strikers come August.
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A seasoned striker can struggle in new teams and systems. Just look at Falcao or Mario. If Charlie Austin is available for £10m would he be worth the risk, say more than Walcott or Falcao both of whom will cost 20-30m and ask for salaries between £100-£200k?
 
Sign neither. It's the type of signing we've been making, and over-paying for for years.

If we signed one, I'd seriously hoping for another main/big name striker to come in, with Ings or Austin on the bench.
 
Yeah definitely but I'd have zero problem with either being the 3rd striker behind Sturridge and a new marquee striker.
They'd offer more than Lambert,Mario and Borini combined.
Especially Ings.
 
Is there not some sort of issue with Austin though? I can't remember what exactly and whether it was rumour or fact but it was something about his personal life.
 
Sign neither. It's the type of signing we've been making, and over-paying for for years.

If we signed one, I'd seriously hoping for another main/big name striker to come in, with Ings or Austin on the bench.

The "over-paying" is the issue. 6 months before we signed Andy Carroll I suggested it might be worth us making a £12m bid; he has always been and will always be a very good (if fit) £12m option up front..........but £35m was just bizarre.

I would love us to sign Austin & Ings and actually think they'd be a great pairing. Austin is the more versatile in that he makes as many chances (for others) as he scores and can play the "Sheringham" role as well as Sheringham did. Ings can also make chances but he's more of a predator than a creator.

Now onto how much is acceptable to pay for these two. I'd say ings would be worth risking £10m for but because of his contract situation should be available for £7m-ish which make signing him a no-brainer. Austin I would say (because of his versatility) is worth risking about £12m but I reckon QPR will want £20m.

If we could get both for a total of £20m (£7m & £13m) I'd go for it.
 
Scoring goals for struggling teams rarely translates into scoring as many goals for top teams.


Well, the 'Gerrard is really great because he did it in a mediocre team' cliche is dragged out several times a season when discussing the greats, so on the same basis a striker is really, really good when he scores in a struggling team.
 
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Austin powered: Would buying the QPR star show Newcastle mean business?
Mike Ashley wants £10million-rated Charlie Austin to kick-off a summer spending spree designed to lure Steve McClaren to Newcastle.
Toon owner Ashley is ready to bankroll a busy transfer window with Queens Park Rangers hot-shot Austin lined up to be the latest in a long tradition of famous No9s including the likes of Alan Shearer.
Derby manager McClaren is first choice to take over at St James' Park this summer with the Magpies' season tailing off in a run of five consecutive defeats with former No2 John Carver in caretaker charge.
But former England boss McClaren will want to see signs that Newcastle are determined to compete in the market having sold stars such as Mathieu Debuchy, Yohan Cabaye and Demba Ba over the past few seasons.
Austin has been in superb form, scoring 17 goals in 31 games this season despite QPR’s struggles at the foot of the table, and has even been in the frame for an England call-up.
Crystal Palace and Southampton are also watching developments, but Austin tops Newcastle’s wanted list.


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Buying time: McClaren is in Newcastle's sights but still needs convincing

The 25-year-old, who has made a fairytale rise from playing non-League and laying bricks via spells at Swindon and Burnley, has one year left on his current contract.
That means QPR, who sit 18th with five games to play, may have to sell on the cheap this summer - and seem certain to lose him if they do go back down to the Championship.
McClaren is red-hot favourite to get the Newcastle job, and for him it would be a return to a big club in the Premier League.
The 53-year-old is still in the hunt for the Championship play-offs with Derby, and could yet lead them up to the top flight a year after suffering defeat to QPR in last season's play-off final.
But McClaren seems destined for St James' Park, with the Rams keen on Burnley’s Sean Dyche.
Birmingham boss Gary Rowett is another on their shortlist.
 
The "over-paying" is the issue. 6 months before we signed Andy Carroll I suggested it might be worth us making a £12m bid; he has always been and will always be a very good (if fit) £12m option up front..........but £35m was just bizarre.

I would love us to sign Austin & Ings and actually think they'd be a great pairing. Austin is the more versatile in that he makes as many chances (for others) as he scores and can play the "Sheringham" role as well as Sheringham did. Ings can also make chances but he's more of a predator than a creator.

Now onto how much is acceptable to pay for these two. I'd say ings would be worth risking £10m for but because of his contract situation should be available for £7m-ish which make signing him a no-brainer. Austin I would say (because of his versatility) is worth risking about £12m but I reckon QPR will want £20m.

If we could get both for a total of £20m (£7m & £13m) I'd go for it.


That is some statement. Sheringham was a fantastic player. I haven't seen enough of Austin, but I'm going to say he isn't as good as Sheringham was.
 
That is some statement. Sheringham was a fantastic player. I haven't seen enough of Austin, but I'm going to say he isn't as good as Sheringham was.
But Sheringham wasn't recognised as a "top" player until he signed for Spurs when he was 26 and only made his international debut when he was 27. Sheringham looked a much better player at Spurs because he was surrounded by very talented players like Gascoigne, Klinsmann etc. That's why he was also successful at United and with England because playing with quality players we began to see how intelligent a player he was.

Austin is 25 and plays with Karl Henry, Leroy Fer and Joey Barton. My point is £10m-£12m is a risk (all signing are) but a risk worth taking IMO because he has shown enough potential to justify it......and if he plays with better players he COULD prove to be another Sheringham.
 
Ings strikes me as a more mobile goal getter. I enjoyed his performance at Old Trafford, clever threatening running, topped off with a clinical finish. He seemed to revell in the big occasion, so I'd have to pick him.
 
Local newspaper in Burnley seem to think Ings will join us now.
The tribunal fee is expected to be 3-5 mill according to the Echo.

For that fee its a relativly low risk signing for a player that suits us much better than some of the lumps we have upfront today.
 
Local newspaper in Burnley seem to think Ings will join us now.
The tribunal fee is expected to be 3-5 mill according to the Echo.

For that fee its a relativly low risk signing for a player that suits us much better than some of the lumps we have upfront today.


ings in for 4m
ballo, borini and lambert out for 20m and we are quids in (sort of).
 
Ha, every year, we have one of these. 'He'll be a good signing provided we also sign a worldy'.

Come August, Ings will be only fit first-team striker at a club hoping to finish in the top 4.
 
Ha, every year, we have one of these. 'He'll be a good signing provided we also sign a worldy'.

Come August, Ings will be only fit first-team striker at a club hoping to finish in the top 4.


Yep it doesn't make sense. People will justify it by saying it's okay as long as we sign someone else and he doesn't play much. Then what's the point of signing him? a) you've already admitted he's not good enough to be a starter and b) what's the point of signing players not to play? I'd rather we signed two strikers we thought would improve the first team and if there's only room for one in the team then let them battle it out. I'm sick of us signing squad fillers at the expense of first team names.
 
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