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Injuries and Klopp's Training Methods

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So, obviously we had a massive spate of similar injuries last season, particularly hamstring injuries. This dude who apparently predicted we would be ravaged with injuries last season has had another dig at Klopp. Is there anything in this?

Raymond Verheijen criticises Liverpool and Chelsea's outdated training methods in string of tweets

The former Wales coach correctly predicted Liverpool's mid-season injury crisis last year

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Klopp with his players at Melwood, Liverpool's training ground Getty
Raymond Verheijen, the former Wales coach, has strongly condemned the training methods of Jürgen Klopp and Antonio Conte.
The Dutchman, who previously criticised Klopp duringLiverpool’s injury crisis last season, has claimed that doing “too much too soon” during pre-season “destroys players”.

Klopp and Conte, Chelsea’s newly-appointed manager, are both known to focus on intense physical conditioning during the summer months, with the intention of regaining full fitness.
Verheijen, however, believes such methods to be outdated and outlined his reasoning in a string of critical tweets.
Verheijen's criticisms


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In past weeks media reported how intelligent coaches like Conte & Klopp do 'too much too soon' with double & triple sessions in pre-season.
12:01 PM - 18 Jul 2016
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Coaches destroy players by training too much too soon in pre-season in 3 phases:
1) fatigue phase, 2) injury phase & 3) injury crisis phase.
12:01 PM - 18 Jul 2016

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Phase 1: Accumulation of fatigue phase. Overtraining players with too many sessions & too short recovery time in between to regain freshness
12:01 PM - 18 Jul 2016


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Phase 1: Accumulation of fatigue phase. Which Einstein invented 2-3 sessions per day with relatively unfit players just after off-season?
12:01 PM - 18 Jul 2016

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Phase 1: Accumulation of fatigue phase. As players get tired coaches condition players to play slower & inaccurate football in pre-season.
12:02 PM - 18 Jul 2016

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Phase 1 --> Phase 2: After being overtrained in first 2 weeks tired players now have to play friendly games which means a high injury risk.
12:02 PM - 18 Jul 2016
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Phase 2: Injury phase. Overtrained players have lost freshness in first weeks & now have to play friendly games with lower body coordination
12:02 PM - 18 Jul 2016


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Phase 2: Injury phase. Accumulated fatigue results in slower nervous system. Signals from brain to muscles travel slower. Less coordination.
12:02 PM - 18 Jul 2016
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Phase 2: Injury phase. Tired players with less body coordination have to make maximum explosive actions in friendly games: high injury risk!
12:03 PM - 18 Jul 2016
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Phase 2 --> Phase 3: After some players got injured in week 3-4 of pre-season coaches can't stop vicious circle so injury crisis in week 5-6
12:03 PM - 18 Jul 2016

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Phase 3: Injury crisis phase. More injuries lead to smaller squad so tired players get even more game minutes. Even more fatigue & injuries.
12:03 PM - 18 Jul 2016


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Most teams have almost finished phase 1 (accumulation of fatigue phase) and will enter phase 2 in which first few players will get injured.
12:03 PM - 18 Jul 2016
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In about 2 weeks the first teams will enter the 'Injury crisis phase' (phase 3). Look forward to all these coaches blaming external factors.
12:04 PM - 18 Jul 2016
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In meantime ask yourself a question: why do we no longer fly in planes of 30 yrs ago but do intelligent coaches still train like 30 yrs ago?
12:07 PM - 18 Jul 2016
In December last year, Verheijen correctly predicted that Liverpool would suffer an injury crisis in the following weeks and later criticised Klopp for not “adapting his methods to the situation.”
Liverpool were without 11 players in total at the peak of their crisis in early January, with six of those players suffering from a hamstring problem.
Verheijen's latest comments come after a spate of injuries to the club's defence.






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Mamadou Sakho and Joe Gomez - who has not played since damaging an anterior cruciate ligament last October - both suffered Achilles tendon problems last week.
Joel Matip, a summer signing from Schalke 04, hobbled off the field with a foot problem during Sunday's 2-0 pre-season friendly win over Wigan Athletic, though Klopp described the injury as "not too serious".
 
There is something to what he says but that is only if you assume there is as little emphasis on recovery, technique, rest and nutrition as there is emphasis placed on the training itself.

It's a fine line to walk. You want to stress the players so that they are forced to overcompensate and build capacity - but a step too far risks over training and injury.

I would rather trust that Klopp and the new guy we got from Bayern can appropriately monitor risk factors than watch us throw away the first third of season trying to play our way into shape as we seemed to under Rodgers.
 
Well first things first, Klopp wasn't in charge during the last preseason.

Secondly, the team often looked below peak fitness under Rodgers. Even i predicted we'd have more injuries when Klopp took over because that was the obviously inevitable outcome when he had to up fitness levels midseason.

As for hard training during preseason, we'll see if he's right during next season. I reckon we'll see less injuries next season
 
Well first things first, Klopp wasn't in charge during the last preseason.

Secondly, the team often looked below peak fitness under Rodgers. Even i predicted we'd have more injuries when Klopp took over because that was the obviously inevitable outcome when he had to up fitness levels midseason.

As for hard training during preseason, we'll see if he's right during next season. I reckon we'll see less injuries next season

Agree completely. Last year was a real struggle trying to bring players up to capacity midway and the injuries suffered were predictable. Euros of course reduced the amount of time Klopp had this off-season to implement his plans but still a large difference from where he had to take over from midseason. Next summer will be the full test. Hopefully we see progressive improvement at each step.
 
There is something to what he says but that is only if you assume there is as little emphasis on recovery, technique, rest and nutrition as there is emphasis placed on the training itself.

It's a fine line to walk. You want to stress the players so that they are forced to overcompensate and build capacity - but a step too far risks over training and injury.

I would rather trust that Klopp and the new guy we got from Bayern can appropriately monitor risk factors than watch us throw away the first third of season trying to play our way into shape as we seemed to under Rodgers.

Funnily enough that fitness pattern under Rodgers always got me wondering if the players were overtraining and if the problem with his methods was less a need to play our way into shape, more a need to get used to the sheer weight of demand placed on their fitness levels by his preferred "death by football" style.
 
Funnily enough that fitness pattern under Rodgers always got me wondering if the players were overtraining and if the problem with his methods was less a need to play our way into shape, more a need to get used to the sheer weight of demand placed on their fitness levels by his preferred "death by football" style.

If so, then Rodgers and his team did a really poor job of periodizing their training. I'm ok with a team taking a little bit of time to reach peak fitness, but sacrificing 30-40% of the season is abject failure in a league as competitive as the Premier League.
 
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