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manwithnoname

manwithnoname

Bravo old man. Bravo.
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This is one of the post-match scenes that has so infuriated many United fans and pundits, including Giggs, who said:

"You can get beat in a football match, but then when you're getting beat and you're swapping shirts, that is something I don't like. You get beat 4-0, you congratulate the opposition, you thank the supporters and then you get off the pitch.

You don't stand around on the pitch swapping shirts and laughing with the team that's just beat you."

I recall Sakho - I think - getting coated for something similar. Quite rightly.

This is just fucking infuriating. How much does it simply show that the players just don't share the same emotions as many of the fans? It always seems to be the foreign players too, but then they have a genuine reason for not understanding the tribal rivalries and whatnot.

Hope Rooney or someone is making Martial aware that that shit isn't acceptable, no matter how huggable little Kante is.
 
juniormember said:
Hope he isn't. Let's keep their mentality as is.
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Bloody foreigners, coming over here and not understanding our petty hatreds and obscure tribal and geographical resentments*


* I wrote that before some mewling halfwit posts something similar, but less well written, amusing and self-aware, and with no sense of irony.
 
The game is evolving and - thanks largely to the importance placed on corporate nowadays - so is the fanbase, in my opinion.

You'll always have a section of fervent supporters who would never show anything but the tiniest bit of a grudging respect to the opposition. But we now also have a new breed of fan and player who aren't from these areas and are not really plugged in to the rivalries that used to abound.


Is it really reasonable to expect two highly paid French lads to understand what it is like for that passionate section of the support that grew up in Manchester or Chelsea? It is just a game to a lot of these players these days, a game that provides them with an obscene amount of money.
 
I don't have any problem with it at all, judging from that picture anyway.

As long as the said players gave their utmost during the game I would have no qualms with them sharing a few hugs and pleasantries afterwards.

If however they are standing laughing and having like the time of their life together after one of them just got beat 4-nil that would be a completely different matter. Because no-one who's playing football should be in the mood for having a genuinely good time immediately after a heavy loss especially not when still on the pitch for the fans to see. I agree that would just be extremely annoying to behold and send all the wrong signals to the fans.
 
Even boxers can hug and smile after they've beaten the living daylight out of each other. Isn't this just two friends wearing different shirts that are showing each other some affection after a game? Martial looks pretty downhearted and Kante pretty upbeat. Like it should be.

The fact that it is Giggs that is taking the high road on this wanting to defend the ever so vulnerable fans and their little feelings, underlines for me how pathetic the argue seems. I mean, you can go sleep with your brothers wife for 8-years, that is apparently within good manors, but two French players, good friends, playing for opposite teams saying hello to each other after a game of footy - that's fucking off limits.

Jesus wept.
 
Kay Age El said:
Even boxers can hug and smile after they've beaten the living daylight out of each other. Isn't this just two friends wearing different shirts that are showing each other some affection after a game? Martial looks pretty downhearted and Kante pretty upbeat. Like it should be.

The fact that it is Giggs that is taking the high road on this wanting to defend the ever so vulnerable fans and their little feelings, underlines for me how pathetic the argue seems. I mean, you can go sleep with your brothers wife for 8-years, that is apparently within good manors, but two French players, good friends, playing for opposite teams saying hello to each other after a game of footy - that's fucking off limits.

Jesus wept.
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It is off limits.

Fucking phone the cunt after the game if you miss your mate so much, don't drape your arm around the little grinning mug after you've just been humped 4-0 and all your fans in the crowd and on the telly can see you.
 
The photo of Zlatan laughing and joking with a Chelsea player at full time was worse.
 
Windom Earle said:
The game is evolving and - thanks largely to the importance placed on corporate nowadays - so is the fanbase, in my opinion.

You'll always have a section of fervent supporters who would never show anything but the tiniest bit of a grudging respect to the opposition. But we now also have a new breed of fan and player who aren't from these areas and are not really plugged in to the rivalries that used to abound.


Is it really reasonable to expect two highly paid French lads to understand what it is like for that passionate section of the support that grew up in Manchester or Chelsea? It is just a game to a lot of these players these days, a game that provides them with an obscene amount of money.
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Yeah, this. Those two blokes are so far removed from the fanbases they represent, the photo is not surprising.

As long as Liverpool players give their all on the pitch, I couldn't honestly give a fuck if they speak to the opposition after.
 
I had a really hilarious read of redcafe. Talk about meltdown! Blimey it's well worth a read - The thing with Zlatan and a few other players laughing as they walked off the pitch - Slapping each other on the back and full of smiles has infuriated them beyond belief. The Pogba thing is a fucking delight to read them talk about. 90Mill! Hahahahahah. They're is a lot of chat that Jose should be sacked! Not least for continually playing Felliani and Smalling What a bunch of fucking whoppers! It's delightful! :D
 
I don't see what's wrong. So they get on when they're not actually playing against each other. No problem with that.
 
manwithnoname said:
It is off limits.

Fucking phone the cunt after the game if you miss your mate so much, don't drape your arm around the little grinning mug after you've just been humped 4-0 and all your fans in the crowd and on the telly can see you.
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I disagree.

As said there are limits though for me as well, and grinning and laughing etc. would defo piss me off right after a heavy loss. Mainly because I'd question the effort put in - when you put in 100% effort to a cause and you lose you will feel downhearted, sad, blue, desperate etc., and certainly not in the mood for big laughs. Everyone who's played the game no matter the level will recognize that feeling I guess.
 
Situations like this are exactly why it'd be great to see a percentage of a players weekly wage depend on the result.

It's not as if it would have anyone on the breadline, and the league as a whole is competitive enough for it to be somewhat fair.

Won't happen though.
 
Red Astaire said:
I had a really hilarious read of redcafe. Talk about meltdown! Blimey it's well worth a read - The thing with Zlatan and a few other players laughing as they walked off the pitch - Slapping each other on the back and full of smiles has infuriated them beyond belief. The Pogba thing is a fucking delight to read them talk about. 90Mill! Hahahahahah. They're is a lot of chat that Jose should be sacked! Not least for continually playing Felliani and Smalling What a bunch of fucking whoppers! It's delightful! :D
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The Pogba conundrum is not really Mourinho's fault (yet) and I suspect he's talented enough that between the two of them he can find a position and show some form.

The continued presence of Fellaini is more amusing and is probably causing most of the anger. He was pilloried as a Moyes panic buy, and hated from even before he joined, constantly slated by ex-players as "not Man Utd standard".

Then Moyes goes, but Fellaini somehow doesn't, and finds several different roles in LVG's many experiments, going from "stupid" to "undroppable" and back again on several occasions. Even the signing of Herrera, Schneiderlin, Schweini, Blind makes no difference. He plays a lot.

Then the saviour arrives, along with Pogba, and Fellaini STILL gets into the team, and plays well enough for some to start reassessing him. But he's always in this cycle. Gets dropped. Comes on as sub, plays well. Keeps place. Does OK. Crowd decide he's a Man Utd player after all. United get beat. He's shit again and where the fuck is Carrick?

They're using Fellaini as a stick to beat the manager again. He's like Lucas with sharper elbows.
 
gkmacca said:
I don't see what's wrong. So they get on when they're not actually playing against each other. No problem with that.
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Some of the backslapping, laughing and joking was pretty provocative if you ask me. Like they actually don't care at all. It just demonstrated the massive gulf between the fans and the players. By all means have a chat and a joke with your mates in the lounge or tunnel but displaying a couldn't give a fuck attitude on the pitch after a shoeing is pretty shit really
 
manwithnoname said:
The Pogba conundrum is not really Mourinho's fault (yet) and I suspect he's talented enough that between the two of them he can find a position and show some form.

The continued presence of Fellaini is more amusing and is probably causing most of the anger. He was pilloried as a Moyes panic buy, and hated from even before he joined, constantly slated by ex-players as "not Man Utd standard".

Then Moyes goes, but Fellaini somehow doesn't, and finds several different roles in LVG's many experiments, going from "stupid" to "undroppable" and back again on several occasions. Even the signing of Herrera, Schneiderlin, Schweini, Blind makes no difference. He plays a lot.

Then the saviour arrives, along with Pogba, and Fellaini STILL gets into the team, and plays well enough for some to start reassessing him. But he's always in this cycle. Gets dropped. Comes on as sub, plays well. Keeps place. Does OK. Crowd decide he's a Man Utd player after all. United get beat. He's shit again and where the fuck is Carrick?

They're using Fellaini as a stick to beat the manager again. He's like Lucas with sharper elbows.
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I've still got my fingers crossed that one day they'll decide to use their midfield whopper as a CB like we have with Lucas. To Lucas' credit he has done a decent job in the defence and while Carrick has had a bash at CB for them, Fellaini would be too hilarious to miss.

I seem to recall Mourinho playing Roberth Huth as a striker some time ago, let's hope he loses the plot again soon.
 
tony said:
Some of the backslapping, laughing and joking was pretty provocative if you ask me. Like they actually don't care at all. It just demonstrated the massive gulf between the fans and the players. By all means have a chat and a joke with your mates in the lounge or tunnel but displaying a couldn't give a fuck attitude on the pitch after a shoeing is pretty shit really
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Yeah, exactly. You're only 50 yards away from the fucking tunnel. Save your backslaps and hashtag japery until then, you fucking dickheads.
 
I thought this thread might be on the claims that Mourinho told Conte off for urging his fans to make more noise at 4-0. Mourinho took offence at that apparently suggesting you can do that at 1-0, but it humiliates the opponent at 4-0.
 
Can see why fans of the losing side can have a problem with that but I usually turn the telly off when whistle has blown, that is if we lost.
Couldn't care less if they hug it out etc, I'm not around to watch it.
 
I don't have problem with it because it's Man Utd. However after the game there should be no laughing and smiling after 4 goal thrashing. Swapping jerseys is fine though. I remember Klopp hugging an opposition player after we beat them, I did not like it one bit.
 
redhorizon2 said:
I remember Klopp hugging an opposition player after we beat them, I did not like it one bit.
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Highlighted the important part here. "After we beat them." If we have won I couldn't really care less if Klopp walks off wearing an opposition scarf.
 
Its pretty galling to watch players fawning over each post match, even more so after being so humiliated.
 
Mersey86 said:
I thought this thread might be on the claims that Mourinho told Conte off for urging his fans to make more noise at 4-0. Mourinho took offence at that apparently suggesting you can do that at 1-0, but it humiliates the opponent at 4-0.
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He wasn't taking issue with "making more noise", it was more the gesticulation and jumping about in general being "humiliating" and disrespectful

Which of course, is something that Mourinho would never do.
 
redhorizon2 said:
I don't have problem with it because it's Man Utd. However after the game there should be no laughing and smiling after 4 goal thrashing. Swapping jerseys is fine though. I remember Klopp hugging an opposition player after we beat them, I did not like it one bit.
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Except at halftime. I'm not sure you'd want Liverpool players swapping shirts with Everton players either.
 
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