Extracts in the Echo.
Some funny shit.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/paul-walsh-life-liverpool-fc-9761347
Some funny shit.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/paul-walsh-life-liverpool-fc-9761347
This one surprised me :
“In the 1986 Double-winning team, people forget I was in the side for a lot of that season. But there wasn’t the footage there is now, and then I picked up a bad injury against Manchester United and missed practically the rest of the season. Now everybody remembers the iconic image of Kenny scoring the winner at Chelsea. “I have to justify myself in that team to people, but the fact is I was in the PFA team of the year and neither Rushy or Kenny were. That says what my fellow pros thought of me.”
“On one occasion, Ronnie Moran was treating my ankle with an ultrasound machine and all of a sudden I could feel he was halfway up my shin.
“I looked at him and he was reading the back page of the paper, lost in his own world. I said, ‘Er, Ron, the ankle’s a bit lower down, mate.’
hahahaha
That's the impression you get from reading, 'Men in White Suits'. John Scales was particularly surprised by what he found when he moved to Liverpool.
It's a fine line because we also had a brains trust that was beyond compare. There are all of the legendary tales of Paisley being able to diagnose an injury just by watching a player walk. And then there were the books in which every single day was documented in minute detail for future reference. You can't win all we won by being amateurish. The staff at the club, with the obvious exception of Shankly, were also very unassuming so they gave the impression of innocent amateurism despite being some of the greatest and most innovative thinkers in the game. That was the ethos throughout the boot room years so if there's a link with our demise in the 90s, maybe it's that we tried to move away from all of that too quickly.It's a bit perturbing how amateurish we seemed on all the technical and medical stuff.
He wonders if it was somehow the secret of our success. But what if other, unrelated, things were, and this kind of laxness (which undoubtedly reared its head in the business side come the 90s) was more like the secret of our downfall?
It's a bit perturbing how amateurish we seemed on all the technical and medical stuff.
He wonders if it was somehow the secret of our success. But what if other, unrelated, things were, and this kind of laxness (which undoubtedly reared its head in the business side come the 90s) was more like the secret of our downfall?
Yep.The problem wasn't with the management, it was the fact that John Scales and Neil Ruddock were in the team.
Yep. Let's pore over memoirs from bit players to sneer at teams who won everything in sight. And next week: we laugh at Einstein for not being more proficient at typing.
That's not what we're doing though. During our pomp, when you say we were amateurish, we were in fact run by a group of ruthless professionals who knew exactly what they were doing. As they left the club, to be replaced by lesser men, their knowledge left with them and so hastened our demise.Or let's close down every interesting line of enquiry into why we went from from the best team in the world to also-rans in the space of about 5 years.
But that ruthlessness wasn't easily quantifiable, so Peter doesn't understand it.That's not what we're doing though. During our pomp, when you say we were amateurish, we were in fact run by a group of ruthless professionals who knew exactly what they were doing. As they left the club, to be replaced by lesser men, their knowledge left with them and so hastened our demise.
The trophies they won were though eh?But that ruthlessness wasn't easily quantifiable, so Peter doesn't understand it.
I confess to loving Ruddock, if only for the equaliser in the 3-3
Or let's close down every interesting line of enquiry into why we went from from the best team in the world to also-rans in the space of about 5 years.
That's not what we're doing though. During our pomp, when you say we were amateurish, we were in fact run by a group of ruthless professionals who knew exactly what they were doing. As they left the club, to be replaced by lesser men, their knowledge left with them and so hastened our demise.
Peter, whilst I understand your line of enquiry, & even as far as your point of view, I think you seek to try to define things too much.
In everything you seem to try to define things in order to understand them. Whilst I appreciate that, I don't begin to understand how Shankley or Paisley judged players so quickly & effectively, nor even how Ferguson did so at United, some people have the ability to build a team around them to complement their natural ability to do so, & defy convention whilst doing it.
As you often do, I suspect you're trying to quantify an individual influence, which isn't always possible.