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players that have fallen from grace.

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Well, his career was cut short by the Romans.

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I remember Neil Webb made his debut when he was dead young and got a straight red... This was before that kinda thing happened very often... Reds were fairly rare occurences.. Anyways I was only a kid and my dad had a mad pub in Toxteth and I heard some dudes talking about what had happened. Apparently the ref had said after it something like 'I understand he was excited and I'm not averse to some bad language, so when he said 'fucking' I wasn't bothered, but no 16 year old kid calls me a cunt'. I dunno if it's true, i just remember it dead clearly.
 
It wasn't because he couldn't get a club. He'd lost all enthusiasm for the game. A bit like we were talking about in another thread, he was one of those players who didn't have any real attachment to the sport.
 
Come on. He's hardly in his prime now, is he? Just collecting his pension in the US.

Exactly, my point is that some of the players mentioned here reached their peak or came very close. Played for their national teams, participated in international tournaments etc.
Mendieta for instance, does he really deserve to be mentioned along side someone like Jeffers?
 
It wasn't because he couldn't get a club. He'd lost all enthusiasm for the game. A bit like we were talking about in another thread, he was one of those players who didn't have any real attachment to the sport.

Yeah I read something about how he loved all the dicking about, and when there was no more laughs and it all got dead serious he wasn't interested.

Even so, most people do something they don't like for a few hours a day to pay the bills. He could have easily made millions if he'd just got his head down. I guess it's up to him.
 
I listened to an interview with Bentley a while back. He seemed to have a massive attachment to the sport at one point but had fallen completely out of love with it.

He blamed Opta Joe, pretty much.
 
Yeah I read something about how he loved all the dicking about, and when there was no more laughs and it all got dead serious he wasn't interested.

Even so, most people do something they don't like for a few hours a day to pay the bills. He could have easily made millions if he'd just got his head down. I guess it's up to him.


Yes. Many players these days are the modern day equivalents of the old Hollywood child stars. From Mickey Rooney to Wayne Rooney. Weird child-men who stopped thinking about anything other than their chosen professional world before their aunties stopped sending them Cadburys Easter eggs and the wrong CDs for Christmas. They start working like adults at an incredibly early age, get caught up in the excitement of it and then either carry on as blinkered 20-somethings or have a JS Mill-style emotional crisis before their careers have really got started. When Harry Redknapp glowered at Bentley after he'd emptied a bucket of water over his new suit was the moment when poor Bentley suddenly realised he'd blundered into the grown-up's gang.
 
Yeah I read something about how he loved all the dicking about, and when there was no more laughs and it all got dead serious he wasn't interested.

Even so, most people do something they don't like for a few hours a day to pay the bills. He could have easily made millions if he'd just got his head down. I guess it's up to him.

Yeah, i read a story about him and Bullard when they were in Capello's England squad pissing around, calling Capello Postman Pat, they had some bet or something who could get nearest to Capello and shout Postman Pat, Bentley ends up just walking up to him gives it the 'Postman Pat and his black and white cat!' to his face.
 
Joe Cole must have delighted watching management team Paul Lambert and Roy Keane with an impressive performance as Villa picked up a point in their opening Barclays Under-21 League match of the season at Bodymoor Heath.

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He looks like something from the Walking Dead. Joseph Merrick would have run more gracefully than that.
 
Exactly, my point is that some of the players mentioned here reached their peak or came very close. Played for their national teams, participated in international tournaments etc.
Mendieta for instance, does he really deserve to be mentioned along side someone like Jeffers?

A strange way to put the point across, but noted.

One of the saddest fall from grace was Sebastian Deisler. Unlike some of the jokers in here he was a consummate professional, but depression got the better of him.
 
A strange way to put the point across, but noted.

One of the saddest fall from grace was Sebastian Deisler. Unlike some of the jokers in here he was a consummate professional, but depression got the better of him.

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I was reading the David Bentley's wiki page and he retired from football because he could not find a club. At one point in his career he was being labled the 'next David Beckham'.
Neil Webb who's peers would include Mark Hughes and Steve Bruce after leaving football became a postman and further supplemented his income by selling programs for Reading Football Club. Who else from football has fallen from a high?

David Bentley fell out of love with football by all accounts.

Neil Webb played in an era when there was significantly less money in football than today. It was not out of the ordinary for ex players to have to find a regular job
 
David Bentley fell out of love with football by all accounts.

Neil Webb played in an era when there was significantly less money in football than today. It was not out of the ordinary for ex players to have to find a regular job
Neil Webb peers include Barnes, beardo, stevie bruce, mark hughes. These guys were being paid 100s of thousands per year. I just think he mismanaged his money.
David Bentley could not find a club and then fell out love with football. But he honesty thought he could fill David Beckham's boots with his looks and style of play.
 
I'm surprised Mark Bosnich has not been mentioned yet. That's the proper definition IMO of falling from grace, pissing away a good career. A career unwinding due to unfortunate injuries, age, etc. don't really fit into this category in my view.

As a parallel, an example of a manager who has fallen from grace is David O'Leary.
 
I once had a one on one coaching session with Bosnich when he was a United player (v short one!). Wasn't his career ruined by his drugs test rather than anything else?
 
I once had a one on one coaching session with Bosnich when he was a United player (v short one!). Wasn't his career ruined by his drugs test rather than anything else?

Yup, drugs test, and a cocaine habit I think. Just basically pissed his career away.
 
Remember our supposed golden child Mark Gonzales?
Hes 30 now and ive never heard anything of him since he left.

On the flip side there is David Bentley who the way I hear it fell out of love with the game.
 
Michael Johnson, Man Citeh
"Michael Johnson was supposed to be an England international and one of Manchester City's leading lights by now. Instead he is without a club at the age of 24, and looks like a man who has fallen out of love with football."

Clearly, that shit is catching
 
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