Ha. Even £50 is too much for the shite you get served up at times.
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Ha. Even £50 is too much for the shite you get served up at times.
This season's ticket prices
CATEGORY A GAMES – (Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Man City, Man United, Tottenham Hotspur)
CATEGORY B GAMES – (Aston Villa, Crystal Palace, Leicester, Newcastle, Southampton, Stoke City, Sunderland, Swansea, West Brom, West Ham)
CATEGORY C GAMES – (AFC Bournemouth, Norwich, Watford)
*Family Areas are predominantly located in the Upper Anfield Road Stand, Areas 221-224 only, unless otherwise advertised and must be purchased as adult/junior combined tickets.
Any Adult/Junior tickets purchased must fall within a ratio of 2:1 click here for more information
CATEGORY A GAMES – (Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Man City, Man United, Tottenham Hotspur)
CATEGORY B GAMES – (Aston Villa, Crystal Palace, Leicester, Newcastle, Southampton, Stoke City, Sunderland, Swansea, West Brom, West Ham)
CATEGORY C GAMES – (AFC Bournemouth, Norwich, Watford)
*Family Areas are predominantly located in the Upper Anfield Road Stand, Areas 221-224 only, unless otherwise advertised and must be purchased as adult/junior combined tickets.
Any Adult/Junior tickets purchased must fall within a ratio of 2:1 click here for more information
I think the most I've ever paid for a band was 50 euro. That was for Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds (Mercury Rev support) and also for The Stone Roses. Better than 50 quid to see us against West Brom.
When you fork out a few bob for a gig you pretty much know it's going to be a decent event. Going the match is pure lottery
I see the LFC spin machine is in full effect
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35506569
Am I being overy cynical in thinking why wasn't Ayre wearing a suit when giving this Interview and is he trying to look like the common man. I might just be paranoid.
Does anyone know how many of these £9 tickets are available and if they are obstructed view as the cost of them seems mighty suspicious to me.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35506569
Am I being overy cynical in thinking why wasn't Ayre wearing a suit when giving this Interview and is he trying to look like the common man. I might just be paranoid.
Does anyone know how many of these £9 tickets are available and if they are obstructed view as the cost of them seems mighty suspicious to me.
£9 for category C games
I know but how many of them are there? Ayre mentioned how many £77 tickets there were so I want to know why he didn't mention how many of the £9 tickets there are as surely he would have if it was an impressive number.
Heres the view from the back corners, you won't see some of the corner kicks.
It might be a blessing actually.
You might be right Roadred but you'd probably still see the ball hit the first defender on the shin.
But as you suggest Roadred it looks like an obstructed view so no wonder Ayre didn't mention that little nugget is there.
It's also likely to be a small amount of tickets that are affected if that's the case so the claim that some of our tickets are £9 ( so why are the fans crying about it? he may as well have said) is somewhat misleading.
But as you suggest Roadred it looks like an obstructed view so no wonder Ayre didn't mention that little nugget is there.
It's also likely to be a small amount of tickets that are affected if that's the case so the claim that some of our tickets are £9 ( so why are the fans crying about it? he may as well have said) is somewhat misleading.
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Another suspicious thing about these images is that the sun is shining. A very fucking rare occurence in Liverpool I can assure you.Heres the view from the back corners, you won't see some of the corner kicks.
It might be a blessing actually.
So people are planning a protest and as far as I can make out no one actually knows the actual details of the pricing - I've never ever left a match early in 45 odd years and I don't plan doing it tomorrow -
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If people think this protest is solely about a few thousand tickets being priced at 77 quid then they're mistaken. Malcontent has been brewing for ages especially over the cost of away tickets (that's not a Liverpool issue by the way but a wider football problem - but like it or not our fans get fleeced compared to other away fans. Yet the fat cat chairmen vote against caps on prices while the bloated tv revenue rolls in. Props to Everton for lodging their support for a cap).
Add to the mix the Club's heavy handed and amateurish handling of shared fan cards, throwing normal fellas and kids out for using someone else's tickets, relocating long standing season ticket holders to accommodate corporates, the argument over banners and flags on the Kop.
£77 tickets is merely the straw that broke the camels back.
There's a suspicion the club will gradually extend the corporate arrangements, freeze the top end tickets next season but raise the lower end ones.
The club bleat on about £9 tickets. They're for category C games and a handful at that.
But the big elephant in the room - even with ticket price reductions or freezes Ayre bangs out, they're still far too high, especially when the 'product' you're getting on and off the pitch is shite.
Despite us not being that successful for years I honestly believe we've been able to attract great players because of the mystique surrounding the club, the history, the atmosphere, the relationship between supporters, players and club. But we're just turning into another business and the club are treating the fans like shit. Well....like consumers. Our club isn't unique...well it is because our supporters have been leading the fight back for years now. I didn't agree with elements of the SOS approach during the Hicks and Gillet years but I'm totally behind their argument over the cost of going the match. Do I agree with the walkout? I'm not sure.
I don't go the match that often anymore. Could be because we're shite, could be because I can't be arsed, could be because I see a load of talentless knobheads running around in our shirt and getting paid shitloads for the privilege, could be because I'm middle aged and am a boring cunt.
But for me the long and short of it is I want my lad to have the opportunity to experience the great time I had going the game every week, being part of a special club but I can only take him to the game as a treat every now and again. The future long term loyal regular match goer will be non existent because the local kids haven't a hope in hell of getting affordable tickets. But that suits the club. They don't spend loads in the club shop on match day.
Add to the mix the Club's heavy handed and amateurish handling of shared fan cards, throwing normal fellas and kids out for using someone else's tickets, relocating long standing season ticket holders to accommodate corporates, the argument over banners and flags on the Kop.
£77 tickets is merely the straw that broke the camels back.
There's a suspicion the club will gradually extend the corporate arrangements, freeze the top end tickets next season but raise the lower end ones.
The club bleat on about £9 tickets. They're for category C games and a handful at that.
But the big elephant in the room - even with ticket price reductions or freezes Ayre bangs out, they're still far too high, especially when the 'product' you're getting on and off the pitch is shite.
Despite us not being that successful for years I honestly believe we've been able to attract great players because of the mystique surrounding the club, the history, the atmosphere, the relationship between supporters, players and club. But we're just turning into another business and the club are treating the fans like shit. Well....like consumers. Our club isn't unique...well it is because our supporters have been leading the fight back for years now. I didn't agree with elements of the SOS approach during the Hicks and Gillet years but I'm totally behind their argument over the cost of going the match. Do I agree with the walkout? I'm not sure.
I don't go the match that often anymore. Could be because we're shite, could be because I can't be arsed, could be because I see a load of talentless knobheads running around in our shirt and getting paid shitloads for the privilege, could be because I'm middle aged and am a boring cunt.
But for me the long and short of it is I want my lad to have the opportunity to experience the great time I had going the game every week, being part of a special club but I can only take him to the game as a treat every now and again. The future long term loyal regular match goer will be non existent because the local kids haven't a hope in hell of getting affordable tickets. But that suits the club. They don't spend loads in the club shop on match day.
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Amen .
One SOS or Ayre lied. Ayre said that they had talked to them for months, SOS said they only got the information 10 minutes before the media got it. I don't think SOS lied about it.
FSG don't care at all about the fans. What they care about is the money.
Let us take a look at some nice PR by them. Teixeira being one. I'm very sure that we didn't want him but we made a low bid that we knew would be turned down. Look at what the player said. We made one bid and then nothing. The player wanted to join us, desperate to do it.
Konoplyanka another nice PR stunt by FSG. The same story as the Teixeira one. One bid and then nothing. We "talked" to the player for months but made only one bid that was turned down. The player was very angry to say the least.
The third PR stunt by FSG. Mkhitaryan. The same story.
You see a pattern yet?
Carroll a PR signing to please the fans after we sold Torres. Benteke a PR signing after we sold Sterling. They won't care if the manager want the player or not, at least not so far. They needed a expensive signing and Benteke was more or less the only available one at the end of the window.
I have always said that FSG is all about PR.
FSG don't care at all about the fans. What they care about is the money.
Let us take a look at some nice PR by them. Teixeira being one. I'm very sure that we didn't want him but we made a low bid that we knew would be turned down. Look at what the player said. We made one bid and then nothing. The player wanted to join us, desperate to do it.
Konoplyanka another nice PR stunt by FSG. The same story as the Teixeira one. One bid and then nothing. We "talked" to the player for months but made only one bid that was turned down. The player was very angry to say the least.
The third PR stunt by FSG. Mkhitaryan. The same story.
You see a pattern yet?
Carroll a PR signing to please the fans after we sold Torres. Benteke a PR signing after we sold Sterling. They won't care if the manager want the player or not, at least not so far. They needed a expensive signing and Benteke was more or less the only available one at the end of the window.
I have always said that FSG is all about PR.
We are really no different from almost any other PL club apart from City and Chelsea - in that,like it or not, we are a business and have to live and die by the basic laws of economics - supply and demand - Of course we are customers/consumers, I don't get the indignity, and the sooner we are treated that way the better the product we are consuming will be.
We aren't that special anymore as a club and, sad to say our detractors are largely right we live and seem to survive on our history and that credit my friends is almost all spent -
The only way we can think of getting back anywhere near like it used to be is for a multi-billionaire to buy us (and maybe they could afford to be more generous with ticket prices) - until then we need to keep treading water to keep our heads above it - to do that we need success on the pitch and to have that we need money , lots of it, to buy players and pay wages.
As far as I know the big plan was to increase match-day revenue this will just help us remain competitive not to necessarily include doing the decent thing for locals and fuck everyone else.
Look, the atmosphere at the match is never going to be what it used to be. Little did I know how far the ripples of the utter tragedy I was witnessing at Hillsborough that April day in 1989 - would gradually over three decades spread out and stifle that once famous atmosphere, with all seater stadia causing the demise of the kop.
So chums, until Sheik Sergie happens along the owners have to squeeze funds from whoever , wherever and whenever they can.
Of course yes, they need to do this to protect their investment to either make money out of the business (unlikely) or keep it saleable, it's not a charity.
It's quite easy if you don't want to pay - don't, like quite a few of our number have already decided - that's what I will do if the time comes. Then if enough decide to do that they will have to think again - back to supply and demand.
The good old days went along with John Smith, Peter Robinson , Shanks Paisley et al - sorry
We aren't that special anymore as a club and, sad to say our detractors are largely right we live and seem to survive on our history and that credit my friends is almost all spent -
The only way we can think of getting back anywhere near like it used to be is for a multi-billionaire to buy us (and maybe they could afford to be more generous with ticket prices) - until then we need to keep treading water to keep our heads above it - to do that we need success on the pitch and to have that we need money , lots of it, to buy players and pay wages.
As far as I know the big plan was to increase match-day revenue this will just help us remain competitive not to necessarily include doing the decent thing for locals and fuck everyone else.
Look, the atmosphere at the match is never going to be what it used to be. Little did I know how far the ripples of the utter tragedy I was witnessing at Hillsborough that April day in 1989 - would gradually over three decades spread out and stifle that once famous atmosphere, with all seater stadia causing the demise of the kop.
So chums, until Sheik Sergie happens along the owners have to squeeze funds from whoever , wherever and whenever they can.
Of course yes, they need to do this to protect their investment to either make money out of the business (unlikely) or keep it saleable, it's not a charity.
It's quite easy if you don't want to pay - don't, like quite a few of our number have already decided - that's what I will do if the time comes. Then if enough decide to do that they will have to think again - back to supply and demand.
The good old days went along with John Smith, Peter Robinson , Shanks Paisley et al - sorry
I know 3 people travelling from Ireland for tomorrow's game. All very big reds fans. Believe me they went to serious trouble to get their tickets. Are they going to walk out after 77 minutes? Are they fuck!
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I've deleted the quote so that it isn't repeated. What utter garbage. You're interpretation is that the club randomly spent huge amounts of money on talent less players to hide the sale of talented players. The result being a minor short term profit but the business making less income overall. Yes, I see the logic ...
Was waiting for you to respond and knew it would be worth reading. Great post mate.
Anyway, onto me....
I'm not going to walk out tomorrow on 77 mins. I don't think it's the right way to do things, and I've seen plenty of pricks on Twitter and social media saying they are gonna kick off of people don't walk out... Scabs, etc.
It's shite. Who are you to tell anyone how to act? I will stay if I want, and leave if I want. I just don't like this division of the fanbase. I bet you I'll get called a wool at some point tomorrow. Despite being born in Liverpool, living here all my life and having a season ticket since I was 11.
Not going to be nice tomorrow. Are you going or is John?
There's a distinct difference between choosing not to pay and an inability to pay though. The club's also been squeezing those extra few pounds from the matchday fans for years. Apart from one season with a genius player who was eventually sold and the money wasted - where's the improvement? And does the matchday revenue make THAT much of a difference? @Piedro - you say walking out is the wrong way to do things. What's the right way ? My season ticket goes down in price next year but I'll be walking out. Going the match is becoming vastly unaffordable for many. Many who can don't give a shit about that. And the decline in atmosphere is not just about sitting down. You get a better atmosphere at Stoke and Leicester these days and they sit down. In affordable seats.
The only kicker on walking out for me is Klopp and what's he trying to do. I haven't decided still what I'm doing but it's likely I'm going to walk.
There's no right answer, obv.
However, I've always supported strike action in work when the union did it, simply because I agreed with ninety percent of the reasons behind the union's grievances.
If somehow this led to the majority of fans leaving on 77 minutes, & was reported as widely as it should be, I have no doubt it would be followed up by other fans doing likewise.
The TV money comes from the image of this league. Part of that image is the fans packing the stadiums & the clubs trying to portray a wholesome family friendly image too.
Once that is endangered then they will take action to prevent that damage.
2m is nothing in relation to the TV deals & the club knows that.
Like Liam I'm most pissed off about now being able to take Luke the match. Not only that but I don't know any kids that go to see the senior side regularly. I take him to see the under 21s when I can cos we can actually afford it, but the atmosphere isn't there & he doesn't recognise the players etc so there's no real connection for him.
Something has to change or in 15 years time Anfield is going to be old men, & day trippers almost exclusively. I include locals in 'day trippers' btw cos locals who only go every now & then don't tend to sing or get involved as much as regular match goers either.
If this can at least ignite a larger action & bring with it some real debate at levels that matter about ticket prices then I'm all for it, as much as I can be as someone who isn't going to be there & make that decision.
However, I've always supported strike action in work when the union did it, simply because I agreed with ninety percent of the reasons behind the union's grievances.
If somehow this led to the majority of fans leaving on 77 minutes, & was reported as widely as it should be, I have no doubt it would be followed up by other fans doing likewise.
The TV money comes from the image of this league. Part of that image is the fans packing the stadiums & the clubs trying to portray a wholesome family friendly image too.
Once that is endangered then they will take action to prevent that damage.
2m is nothing in relation to the TV deals & the club knows that.
Like Liam I'm most pissed off about now being able to take Luke the match. Not only that but I don't know any kids that go to see the senior side regularly. I take him to see the under 21s when I can cos we can actually afford it, but the atmosphere isn't there & he doesn't recognise the players etc so there's no real connection for him.
Something has to change or in 15 years time Anfield is going to be old men, & day trippers almost exclusively. I include locals in 'day trippers' btw cos locals who only go every now & then don't tend to sing or get involved as much as regular match goers either.
If this can at least ignite a larger action & bring with it some real debate at levels that matter about ticket prices then I'm all for it, as much as I can be as someone who isn't going to be there & make that decision.
Neither of us are going today Pete.
I don't disagree with Vlad. I know we're a business, we have to be to be competitive. But there's a right way to act if you want to keep that bond and trust with the supporters and some of the club's actions of late have chipped that away.
Would I walk out if I was going? I don't think I'd make my mind up until I was there. At the moment I'm thinking all it would do is have a negative effect on Klopp and the players (although I couldn't care less about some of the muck playing for us).
I hope there isn't trouble between our own fans and anyone being aggressive to another should be banned.
But something has to be done to say enough is enough both for Liverpool and football as a whole.
I don't disagree with Vlad. I know we're a business, we have to be to be competitive. But there's a right way to act if you want to keep that bond and trust with the supporters and some of the club's actions of late have chipped that away.
Would I walk out if I was going? I don't think I'd make my mind up until I was there. At the moment I'm thinking all it would do is have a negative effect on Klopp and the players (although I couldn't care less about some of the muck playing for us).
I hope there isn't trouble between our own fans and anyone being aggressive to another should be banned.
But something has to be done to say enough is enough both for Liverpool and football as a whole.
I think a lot depends on the fans BEFORE 77 minutes.
If they're fully behind the team, making a lot of noise & putting on a good show then the walk out on 77 shouldn't be portrayed as being negative against klopp or the team & probably wouldn't be.
I'm not looking forward to the possibility of their fans singing 'walk out' to YNWA when it happens at all though. Hopefully they'll see the bigger picture & applaud it, but I doubt it.
If they're fully behind the team, making a lot of noise & putting on a good show then the walk out on 77 shouldn't be portrayed as being negative against klopp or the team & probably wouldn't be.
I'm not looking forward to the possibility of their fans singing 'walk out' to YNWA when it happens at all though. Hopefully they'll see the bigger picture & applaud it, but I doubt it.
Its a difficult issue and you can understan the dilemma some fans face today. No right answer but in terms of creating some potential trouble between our own fans is the main reason why I dont think the walkout is the right way to go.
But in terms of what happened on Thursday. I'd look at organizing something broader then just your own club but to get every PL club and their fanbase involved. Find one matchday were there is a united protest across every ground BEFORE the games.
Could be difficult to pull off but it would get a much bigger media coverage, bigger impact and wouldnt divide our own fanbase.
Fans dismay as Premier League snubs cap on away ticket prices
• Clubs fail to back fans’ pricing proposal at recent meeting
• ‘Supporters will not let them off hook,’ says FSF spokesperson
The Football Supporters’ Federation has been campaigning hard for a £20 cap on away ticket prices.
The Football Supporters’ Federation has expressed bitter disappointment that Premier League clubs failed to back a measure to cap away ticket prices at their most recent meeting, while Liverpool have expressed dismay at the news that some of their supporters are to stage a walkout from Saturday’s game against Sunderland in protest at the new Anfield pricing structure.
It is understood that while no vote was taken on away tickets at Thursday’s meeting of all the Premier League clubs, informal soundings were taken that made it clear the proposal would not received the two-thirds majority required. Discussions are continuing about whether clubs, promised an £8.3bn bounty from broadcasting rights, will agree to an across-the-board cap on away prices or seek instead to boost the existing away fans ticket fund.
But in terms of what happened on Thursday. I'd look at organizing something broader then just your own club but to get every PL club and their fanbase involved. Find one matchday were there is a united protest across every ground BEFORE the games.
Could be difficult to pull off but it would get a much bigger media coverage, bigger impact and wouldnt divide our own fanbase.
Fans dismay as Premier League snubs cap on away ticket prices
• Clubs fail to back fans’ pricing proposal at recent meeting
• ‘Supporters will not let them off hook,’ says FSF spokesperson
The Football Supporters’ Federation has been campaigning hard for a £20 cap on away ticket prices.
The Football Supporters’ Federation has expressed bitter disappointment that Premier League clubs failed to back a measure to cap away ticket prices at their most recent meeting, while Liverpool have expressed dismay at the news that some of their supporters are to stage a walkout from Saturday’s game against Sunderland in protest at the new Anfield pricing structure.
It is understood that while no vote was taken on away tickets at Thursday’s meeting of all the Premier League clubs, informal soundings were taken that made it clear the proposal would not received the two-thirds majority required. Discussions are continuing about whether clubs, promised an £8.3bn bounty from broadcasting rights, will agree to an across-the-board cap on away prices or seek instead to boost the existing away fans ticket fund.
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