Yeah, you're probably right. Curtis is a better fit at LCM though, but well short of match fitness.
Arthur Melo
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Yeah, you're probably right. Curtis is a better fit at LCM though, but well short of match fitness.
Nope
Haven't seen him much.
Seems a bit slow, unathletic and takes too many touches, but you don't play for Brazil, Barca and Juventus without having some talent, so here's hoping it clicks for him here.
All money is clearly getting saved for Bellingham, but it does raise long term questions about how we replace Keita, Chamberlain and Milner.
This smacks of a despairing punt of a signing because the lizards will not release funds.
Seems a bit slow, unathletic and takes too many touches, but you don't play for Brazil, Barca and Juventus without having some talent, so here's hoping it clicks for him here.
All money is clearly getting saved for Bellingham, but it does raise long term questions about how we replace Keita, Chamberlain and Milner.
This smacks of a despairing punt of a signing because the lizards will not release funds.
No option to buy
We needed a midfielder this year. Ideally 24, on the cusp of big man tings. Someone who could play DM in a pinch, but generally a solid cm.
If we don't get Luiz (who only ticks a few boxes) alongside this Arthur cunt, it's mismanagement on a ridiculous level
If we don't get Luiz (who only ticks a few boxes) alongside this Arthur cunt, it's mismanagement on a ridiculous level
I guess we're not gonna get a discount for him then if he performs well
I admire the optimism
Yeah we should get both
Still leaves us needing at least two CMs in Jan/ next year but at least it means we are adding a CM *now*. Might be a shame for this season to see Luiz at Arsenal, probably a dependable squad player for a top team at a good price allowing more funds on other players.
https://juventusanalysis.com/analysis/arthur-melo-2021-22-juventus-stats
21/22 CL stats:
Older article prior to his Juve more here: https://totalfootballanalysis.com/a...ventus-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics
21/22 CL stats:
Older article prior to his Juve more here: https://totalfootballanalysis.com/a...ventus-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics
But the threat of liquidation!
Reading through some comments on this and the Barca and Juventus fans are pretty damning of him and his attitude.
Misses games for stupid shit, going off snowboarding when injured, apparently one was an STD, partying with Neymar before El Classico and returning back injured, drink driving, etc.
In terms of play style -
Weaknesses: Lacks stamina, an adversion to passing the ball forwards, no vision, injury prone.
Strengths — Press resistant, maintains possession well and has reasonable positioning.
I'm ready to approach this with some pretty low expectations and anything we get is a bonus. If he can do Ginis job whilst staying fit then I'll be happy enough.
Misses games for stupid shit, going off snowboarding when injured, apparently one was an STD, partying with Neymar before El Classico and returning back injured, drink driving, etc.
In terms of play style -
Weaknesses: Lacks stamina, an adversion to passing the ball forwards, no vision, injury prone.
Strengths — Press resistant, maintains possession well and has reasonable positioning.
I'm ready to approach this with some pretty low expectations and anything we get is a bonus. If he can do Ginis job whilst staying fit then I'll be happy enough.
I know nothing about him. But I'd rather loan him than panic buy someone. Possibly wasting £20-30m on someone we might be desperate to offload next year. Especially if we have someone lined up next season who is potentially a generational talent (which the club seems to think Bellingham is).
We have a shit load of Brazilians in the team, and even Taffarel in the coaching staff, so we'll know about his personality / attitude etc., so there's minimal risk there.
Obviously we should have got someone elite earlier in the window, but we can't fix that now.
We have a shit load of Brazilians in the team, and even Taffarel in the coaching staff, so we'll know about his personality / attitude etc., so there's minimal risk there.
Obviously we should have got someone elite earlier in the window, but we can't fix that now.
Take a look at the video BB posted on P1 of this thread. There doesn't seem to be any issues at all regarding stamina, pace, etc. he's 7/10 or 8/10 on all those metrics (and yeah, 9/10 for passing). He seems like a backup to both Thiago and Hendo and it's nice to see we've been tracking him for a while.
Tells me that we either have money allocated to sign a very expensive midfielder (Bellingham) or we're skint and can't afford buying Luiz.
Can Klopp extract Arthur's talent?
Football journalist Mina Rzouki on Sky Sports News:
"I’m not sure whether Arthur Melo is more of a body they’re bringing in right now. For a lot of us when we watched him grow at Barcelona and then move to Juventus, we were really excited for him to come.
"You can see the potential, you can see the brilliance, but then there’s a part of you that thinks it’s never come to fruition or shown on a consistent level.
"He’s had fights with coaches who have not been able to see eye to eye with him on a tactical level, not because he’s not professional, but he ahs something in his head that he wants to achieve.
"He thinks ‘I want to deliver a direct ball’. But what if there isn’t the opportunity? Can you be flexible enough in your midfield to be able to say ‘right now, the team needs me to do this’. He doesn’t make those decisions very effectively, which is what really angered Andrea Pirlo, for example.
"I’m interested to see whether we can see that potential extracted by Jurgen Klopp because we know that he’s a magician at that."
Football journalist Mina Rzouki on Sky Sports News:
"I’m not sure whether Arthur Melo is more of a body they’re bringing in right now. For a lot of us when we watched him grow at Barcelona and then move to Juventus, we were really excited for him to come.
"You can see the potential, you can see the brilliance, but then there’s a part of you that thinks it’s never come to fruition or shown on a consistent level.
"He’s had fights with coaches who have not been able to see eye to eye with him on a tactical level, not because he’s not professional, but he ahs something in his head that he wants to achieve.
"He thinks ‘I want to deliver a direct ball’. But what if there isn’t the opportunity? Can you be flexible enough in your midfield to be able to say ‘right now, the team needs me to do this’. He doesn’t make those decisions very effectively, which is what really angered Andrea Pirlo, for example.
"I’m interested to see whether we can see that potential extracted by Jurgen Klopp because we know that he’s a magician at that."
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