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Melbourne Storm fucked. Salary cap breaches, expected to fold in a week.

St Kilda will be next. The same guy was CEO at the Storm and the Saints. Saints are under investigation re irregular payments. The bookies have suspended bets on St Kilda finishing bottom after receiving some hefty bets. In other words, they are going to get all their points docked and not accrue any, same as one of the punishments the Storm have just been given.
 
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Melbourne Storm fucked. Salary cap breaches, expected to fold in a week.

St Kilda will be next. The same guy was CEO at the Storm and the Saints. Saints are under investigation re irregular payments. The bookies have suspended bets on St Kilda finishing bottom after receiving some hefty bets. In other words, they are going to get all their points docked and not accrue any, same as one of the punishments the Storm have just been given.


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They went from 1000/1 to 3/1 for the wooden spoon in 2 hours.
 
Israel Folau, major talent plays for the Brisbane Broncos NRL, 19, 6'4" etc. about to sign for either Melbourne Rebels or try AFL. Just paper rumours.
 
[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=39553.msg1094863#msg1094863 date=1272463693]

Israel Folau, major talent plays for the Brisbane Broncos NRL, 19, 6'4" etc. about to sign for either Melbourne Rebels or try AFL. Just paper rumours.


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Signing for the Rebels today for $600K per year.

Expect the Broncos to go hard after Billy Slater, Inglis or someone from the Storm as a reply too.
 
Sorry for the slow update folks, but here's the leaderboard after Rd 4 (round 3 for our comp but you get what I mean)...

1 TheFasterBlade 16
2 Mike Livingstone 16
3 Garry O'Neill 16
4 Jack 15
5 Patrick Dillon 12
6 Ryan O'Hare 12

Tough week last week with 4 favourites losing, which saw no great winners out of any of us. 3 joint leaders at the top, and Dreamy and I at the bottom like a pair of fucking chumps.

Don't forget to tip this week.

Cheers.
 
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[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=39553.msg1094863#msg1094863 date=1272463693]

Israel Folau, major talent plays for the Brisbane Broncos NRL, 19, 6'4" etc. about to sign for either Melbourne Rebels or try AFL. Just paper rumours.


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Signing for the Rebels today for $600K per year.

Expect the Broncos to go hard after Billy Slater, Inglis or someone from the Storm as a reply too.
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There is no salary cap in Super 14 but the current Australian teams have a handshake agreement as to what limit to stick to. Will be interesting to see how the Rebels take to that or whether they bother.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39553.msg1095362#msg1095362 date=1272501039]
[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=39553.msg1094863#msg1094863 date=1272463693]

Israel Folau, major talent plays for the Brisbane Broncos NRL, 19, 6'4" etc. about to sign for either Melbourne Rebels or try AFL. Just paper rumours.


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Signing for the Rebels today for $600K per year.

Expect the Broncos to go hard after Billy Slater, Inglis or someone from the Storm as a reply too.
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There is no salary cap in Super 14 but the current Australian teams have a handshake agreement as to what limit to stick to. Will be interesting to see how the Rebels take to that or whether they bother.


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They probably will mate.

Folau's the marquee player they wanted and needed. It's a great acquisition by them.
 
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[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=39553.msg1095398#msg1095398 date=1272516239]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39553.msg1095362#msg1095362 date=1272501039]
[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=39553.msg1094863#msg1094863 date=1272463693]

Israel Folau, major talent plays for the Brisbane Broncos NRL, 19, 6'4" etc. about to sign for either Melbourne Rebels or try AFL. Just paper rumours.


[/quote]

Signing for the Rebels today for $600K per year.

Expect the Broncos to go hard after Billy Slater, Inglis or someone from the Storm as a reply too.
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There is no salary cap in Super 14 but the current Australian teams have a handshake agreement as to what limit to stick to. Will be interesting to see how the Rebels take to that or whether they bother.


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They probably will mate.

Folau's the marquee player they wanted and needed. It's a great acquisition by them.
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Defo.

With Folau's salary, add Cipriani's & add in they are chasing Mark Gasnier who is on mega-bucks in France, they've made an expensive start.
 
Does Gasnier want to come back? That'd be a decent coup alright.

They actually got Cirpriani relatively cheaply too from what I remember reading.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39553.msg1095427#msg1095427 date=1272523820]
Does Gasnier want to come back? That'd be a decent coup alright.

They actually got Cirpriani relatively cheaply too from what I remember reading.
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Gasnier wants to play the next RU WC so he's looking for a club and I read the Rebels were in for him. Might have been paper talk.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39553.msg1095427#msg1095427 date=1272523820]
Does Gasnier want to come back? That'd be a decent coup alright.

They actually got Cirpriani relatively cheaply too from what I remember reading.
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Gasnier wants to play the next RU WC so he's looking for a club and I read the Rebels were in for him. Might have been paper talk.


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Ah yes, the WC. Forgot about that.

I'm in Perth all of next week actually. Hope the weather's better there than the fucking arctic conditions we're getting here.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39553.msg1095427#msg1095427 date=1272523820]
Does Gasnier want to come back? That'd be a decent coup alright.

They actually got Cirpriani relatively cheaply too from what I remember reading.
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Gasnier wants to play the next RU WC so he's looking for a club and I read the Rebels were in for him. Might have been paper talk.


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Ah yes, the WC. Forgot about that.

I'm in Perth all of next week actually. Hope the weather's better there than the fucking arctic conditions we're getting here.
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It was 29 degrees yesterday. Getting cold at night though, had the audacity to slip to single figures a couple of nights ago.

Its about 22-25 most days at the mo.
 
Sooooo.... Dreamy was the winner this week with a solid 6/8. Nice work the dream. Some bizarre selections from a few folks have seen them drop a point or two, but it's more or less the same ladder as last week albeit a little tighter. Here's the leaderboard so far...

1 TheFasterBlade 21
2 Garry O'Neill 21
3 Livingstone 20
4 Jack 19
5 Patrick Dillon 18
6 Ryan O'Hare 17
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39553.msg1098151#msg1098151 date=1272858332]
Sooooo.... Dreamy was the winner this week with a solid 6/8. Nice work the dream. Some bizarre selections from a few folks have seen them drop a point or two, but it's more or less the same ladder as last week albeit a little tighter. Here's the leaderboard so far...

1 TheFasterBlade 21
2 Garry O'Neill 21
3 Livingstone 20
4 Jack 19
5 Patrick Dillon 18
6 Ryan O'Hare 17

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Why the hell did I pick Brisbane.

Thank god for super coach
 
BUMP

Dreamy & Livvy are the only two who haven't entered tips. Get onto it you tools.
 
Another good round for Dreamy, who along with Jack got the highest score of 6/8. Everyone else with 5, so the leaderboard is pretty much the same. Don't forget to predict next week folks...

1 Garry O'Neill 26
2 TheFasterBlade 26
3 Mike Livingstone 25
4 Jack 25
5 Patrick Dillon 24
6 Ryan O'Hare 22
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39553.msg1102726#msg1102726 date=1273536609]
Another good round for Dreamy, who along with Jack got the highest score of 6/8. Everyone else with 5, so the leaderboard is pretty much the same. Don't forget to predict next week folks...

1 Garry O'Neill 26
2 TheFasterBlade 26
3 Mike Livingstone 25
4 Jack 25
5 Patrick Dillon 24
6 Ryan O'Hare 22

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I couldn't back against the saints even though I knew Carlton would run over them.

f*ck it!
 
Rd 8...

Most people got 5 this week, with the exceptions being Garry who with 6 was the winner this week, and FasterBalde's 4 making him king loser. Which means a slight change to the overall leaderboard, and Gaz being ahead by 2. Don't forget to tip next week. Gonna be a monster game on Friday night too between the Pies and the Cats.

1 Garry O'Neill 32
2 TheFasterBlade 30
3 Mike Livingstone 30
4 Jack 30
5 Patrick Dillon 29
6 Ryan O'Hare 27
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39553.msg1105710#msg1105710 date=1274052927]
FasterBalde's 4 making him king loser. Which means a slight change to the overall leaderboard
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Aye, still no change as to who's propping the fucking thing up though.
 
Alright then... Our first crazy week!

Jack, Gary and FasterBlade all with a mighty 2 out of 8.
Livvy take's home the honours this week with 5/8, well done the Liv.

Here's the leaderboard, things have tightened somewhat, with Livvy taking over at the top of the tree.

1 Mike Livingstone 35
2 Garry O'Neill 34
3 Patrick Dillon 33
4 TheFasterBlade 32
5 Jack 32
6 Ryan O'Hare 31
 
Started with 4 from 4.

Fucking hell.

Still undefeated in Super coach though across all leagues.
 
Sooooooo. Even tighter after Rd 10.
Livvy either forgot to tip or got his fucking dog to do it for him, cos 1/8 is a mare of mar'ish proportions. Everyone else bar Jack got 5 right, so it means all 6 of us are within 3 points of each other. OoooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo...

Don't forget to tip this week folks.

1 Garry O'Neill 39
2 Patrick Dillon 38
3 TheFasterBlade 37
4 Mike Livingstone 36
5 Jack 36
6 Ryan O'Hare 36
 
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[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=39553.msg1095398#msg1095398 date=1272516239]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39553.msg1095362#msg1095362 date=1272501039]
[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=39553.msg1094863#msg1094863 date=1272463693]

Israel Folau, major talent plays for the Brisbane Broncos NRL, 19, 6'4" etc. about to sign for either Melbourne Rebels or try AFL. Just paper rumours.


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Signing for the Rebels today for $600K per year.

Expect the Broncos to go hard after Billy Slater, Inglis or someone from the Storm as a reply too.
[/quote]

There is no salary cap in Super 14 but the current Australian teams have a handshake agreement as to what limit to stick to. Will be interesting to see how the Rebels take to that or whether they bother.


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They probably will mate.

Folau's the marquee player they wanted and needed. It's a great acquisition by them.
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Expected to sign for the new Sydney AFL team today.

Mistake if you ask me. Come next season 2 of the top 5 earners in the AFL will be ex-NRL players with no professional experience. That can't be right. They might well claw money back through marketing etc. but there's no way Hunt & Folau will be up there with the games best players. PR exercise gone crazy.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39553.msg1095362#msg1095362 date=1272501039]
[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=39553.msg1094863#msg1094863 date=1272463693]

Israel Folau, major talent plays for the Brisbane Broncos NRL, 19, 6'4" etc. about to sign for either Melbourne Rebels or try AFL. Just paper rumours.


[/quote]

Signing for the Rebels today for $600K per year.

Expect the Broncos to go hard after Billy Slater, Inglis or someone from the Storm as a reply too.
[/quote]

There is no salary cap in Super 14 but the current Australian teams have a handshake agreement as to what limit to stick to. Will be interesting to see how the Rebels take to that or whether they bother.


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They probably will mate.

Folau's the marquee player they wanted and needed. It's a great acquisition by them.
[/quote]

Expected to sign for the new Sydney AFL team today.

Mistake if you ask me. Come next season 2 of the top 5 earners in the AFL will be ex-NRL players with no professional experience. That can't be right. They might well claw money back through marketing etc. but there's no way Hunt & Folau will be up there with the games best players. PR exercise gone crazy.


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I dunno mate.

If it brings people through the gates in West Sydney and the GC that otherwise wouldn't have bothered then that $1.2M odd is fucking petty cash. Besides it's split in half anyway, take Folau for example; $600K of that is paid for by GWS through the salary cap which is the equivalent of a good AFL player's wages, and the other $600K is paid for by the AFL. Do you think the AFL give a fuck about $600K if it grows the game in the largest market (Western Sydney) in Australia?

And other clubs can't start shouting about disparities either. How fucking much money have the AFL been throwing at shithouse clubs like Port Adelaide, North Melbourne, Bulldogs for years and years every fucking year to help compensate for their lack of support?

I think it's a fantastic move.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39553.msg1095362#msg1095362 date=1272501039]
[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=39553.msg1094863#msg1094863 date=1272463693]

Israel Folau, major talent plays for the Brisbane Broncos NRL, 19, 6'4" etc. about to sign for either Melbourne Rebels or try AFL. Just paper rumours.


[/quote]

Signing for the Rebels today for $600K per year.

Expect the Broncos to go hard after Billy Slater, Inglis or someone from the Storm as a reply too.
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There is no salary cap in Super 14 but the current Australian teams have a handshake agreement as to what limit to stick to. Will be interesting to see how the Rebels take to that or whether they bother.


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They probably will mate.

Folau's the marquee player they wanted and needed. It's a great acquisition by them.
[/quote]

Expected to sign for the new Sydney AFL team today.

Mistake if you ask me. Come next season 2 of the top 5 earners in the AFL will be ex-NRL players with no professional experience. That can't be right. They might well claw money back through marketing etc. but there's no way Hunt & Folau will be up there with the games best players. PR exercise gone crazy.


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I dunno mate.

If it brings people through the gates in West Sydney and the GC that otherwise wouldn't have bothered then that $1.2M odd is fucking petty cash. Besides it's split in half anyway, take Folau for example; $600K of that is paid for by GWS through the salary cap which is the equivalent of a good AFL player's wages, and the other $600K is paid for by the AFL. Do you think the AFL give a fuck about $600K if it grows the game in the largest market (Western Sydney) in Australia?

And other clubs can't start shouting about disparities either. How fucking much money have the AFL been throwing at shithouse clubs like Port Adelaide, North Melbourne, Bulldogs for years and years every fucking year to help compensate for their lack of support?

I think it's a fantastic move.
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I'm not sure, I think it sends the wrong message to grass roots Aussie rules. You'd also have to expect that the regular AFL players they begin to sign will wonder why they're on less money than a guy who has never played the game before, EVER (in Folau's case).

I think they would have been better served by signing a high profile AFL player. Obviously, they are trying to break NRL heartland in the case of both new AFL clubs but, for all the posturing that the AFL does in terms of its profile, these signings are an admission that they need to use the NRL to sell the game in those areas. It might work, might not.

I reckon both Hunt and Folau will be back playing some sort of rugby within 2 years. Probably Union as they pay more. If the expansion clubs have taken off by then, I guess the signings did their job.

The NRL will not amend their salary cap to pay players like Folau more money to stay in the game, and I think they're right. I've watched the NRL for about 25 years, long before I came here and, given the resources of this Country and the competition amongst sports here, I can't think of any sport, globally, that has enjoyed a conveyor belt of talent like the NRL has. It's unbelieveable. There'll be a new Folau in there next year, guaranteed.

There is a third WA AFL team on the horizon apparently, one down the road from where I live. I've already pinned my colours to the Dockers mast though so I'll just have to hate the team on my doorstep.
 
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