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Fabinho

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by King Binny, Aug 26, 2019.

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  1. King Binny

    King Binny Very Well-Known Honorary Member

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    Jurgen wasn’t kidding anybody.

    “The flight was not cool, but if nothing happens it should be possible for him to start number 26 in 30 or something like that,” the Liverpool boss told the media in his Friday briefing.

    Gut one, Jurgen.

    The 'him' was Brazilian midfielder Fabinho.

    He had started 24 of Liverpool’s last 29 games before Saturday's visit of Newcastle – and the Reds boss will have been acutely aware of exactly how many.

    Because Jurgen Klopp knows exactly how important Fabinho has been to the incredible run of results Liverpool have posted in that timescale.

    Roberto Firmino, who was on the same ‘uncool’ flight as his Brazilian team-mate, was left on the substitutes' bench ahead of the rigours of seven games in 21 days, but Fabinho was thrust firmly into the action once again.

    Firmino is understandably cast as the most influential unsung hero of Klopp’s first choice starting XI. No-one is taking that mantle any time soon, especially after Saturday's outrageous impact off the bench.

    But Fabinho exerts his own very important influence on this side.

    He does what all good central midfielders do, always making himself available and moving the ball on with a minimum of fuss, effectively and efficiently.

    A carefully volleyed sidefooted pass back to Virgil van Dijk in the 11th minute elicited loud cheers, largely because so much of what had gone before had been sloppy and ill directed.


    He tackled sharply and swiftly to dispossess Joelinton in the 19th and then provided the pass of the half - at least until Firmino came on - with a sweetly lofted chip to Trent Alexander Arnold which the young full-back attempted to cross rather than shoot.

    The youngster should have taken a leap from Mo Salah's book....

    With the points wrapped up Xherdan Shaqiri and James Milner were both introduced before the end, but Fabinho was not the man to make way on either occasion.

    When Jordan Henderson returns in Italy on Tuesday he is unlikely to move aside again.

    And Klopp won't need to kid anybody about that.



    Appearances33, Goals1, Wins27, Losses1
     
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    binomial Very Active Member

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    Fantastic today again, he is the best DM in this league maybe bar Kante.

    He pisses all over Jorginho, Kovavic, Xhaka, Guendouzi, Rodri, Matic, Sissoko

    Who else is there?

    Capoue? Ndidi? Schneirderlin? No one comes close really
     
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    Yeah. I'd still maybe have Kante before him but they're of the same class. No one else gets close
     
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    moron i am legend Member

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    Agree on this totally.
     
  5. Dreambeliever

    Dreambeliever Looking on the brightside Member

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    Kante is a beast and out on his own. He’s different to Fabs.
     
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    KopRed Very Active Member

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    I'll have Fab just for his height. Realistically, only the long ball over the top could hurt us by quickly bypassing our combative midfield and press. But with the man mountains of Fab in the midfield, Vir and Matip at the back, teams seem to have abandoned this approach.
     
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    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    Yes I've highlighted this as well. It's great having a big DM. A bit strange that he's positioned outside the box at offensive set pieces.
     
  8. StevieM

    StevieM SCM's resident Beer Nazi, Wine Snob & Comic Geek Honorary Member

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    Of course Fabinho is a cracking DM - he’s not only built like C3PO, he has the same haircut.
     
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    He’s got a boss hair cut.
     
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    He’s boss. One of the best DMs around
     
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    And an object lesson, one of the clearest illustrations I can remember, of the importance of not writing a player off too early.
     
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    So has C3PO.
     
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    StevieM SCM's resident Beer Nazi, Wine Snob & Comic Geek Honorary Member

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    Andy Robertson falls into that category too - Firmino & Matip arguably also.
     
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    Matip definitely. I did not rate him for a long time and feel that it was a fair judgment. But since getting back into the side he has been immense.
     
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    Firmino defo was written off too early but I feel he had a poor 1st season.

    Matip I thought was excellent for first 6 months until the whole issue with Cameroon saga, had dodgy 2nd season.....but this season and last 6 months of last he's been excellent.

    Robbo was playing 2nd fiddle for Moreno for first few months after we signed him, but when he got his chance he's never been dropped....he's been consistently brilliant every game he's played
     
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    Bobby's first season was ruined by Rodgers not playing him in his right position on the few occasions he played him at all. The wheels were steadily coming off the Rodgers regime by then and Bobby was one of the casualties.
     
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    To be fair, Rodgers was sacked at the start of October in Bobby’s first season and he wouldn’t have had s full pre-season as he was playing in the Copa America.

    Rodgers didn’t know what to do with him - but Klopp wasn’t really in a position to do much with him either - what with Benteke, Ings & Sturridge all wanting to play upfront - and useless either deep or out wide.
     
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    Hmm...not many sideways passes huh?
     
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    manwithnoname Bravo old man. Bravo. Member

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    Fabinho's aggression is not just defensive and destructive, but in the way he moves and passes forward.

    He's not perfect - there are more nimble DM stereotypes, and he can get left standing by quick changes of direction (Virgil rescued him from one of these situations against Newcastle, when he was easily danced past) - but he's performing at a very high level at the moment, and that aggression in and out of possession is what sets him apart from other DMs/ holding midfielders in the league, who are often more conservative.

    They all conform to the standard, basic requirements:

    1) Show for the ball (often from the CBs)
    2) Break up attacks/ win the ball

    But while most then think "job done", turn to face their own goal and pass sideways or backwards until the next intervention, Fabinho - especially after winning the ball - keeps that aggressive mindset and wants to hurt the opposition with his passing and movement, and usually pivots away from our goal, and wants to get forward.

    Also, he does like a tackle now and then. I like that.
     
  20. doctor_mac

    doctor_mac My cowboy name is Garland Justice Moderator

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    Yes, and this was what created the early worries about him as he was finding his feet. He seemed to do something– make a tackle, a block, or a pass, and then he'd kind of stand back on his heels as if he was admiring what he'd just done. He now realises in the harem scarem world of the Premier League you don't get a moment to pat yourself on the back. He's now constantly patrolling, looking for more and more work to do. He really is looking magnificent.
     
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