Heh, there's a family of O'Rourkes near me, I went through school with them. They are indeed a family of criminals and complete bullies. I ended up fighting with one of them throughout school and then in later years when I used to go clubbing, I'd end up in a kick off with one of them everytime we went out. The same lad used to then see me out and about during the week and would apologise profusely, and then do exactly the same thing the following weekend. One of them used to turn up to the local Post Office in a big BMW, to pick up his giro (go figure) and he's been in and out of prison, when he wasn't pushing his pregnant Mrs down the stairs and stuff. The only good one out this group of brothers dropped dead a couple of years ago, just a couple of years younger than me. Then his son, who is the same age as my daughter, a good kid and best friends with my daughters boyfriend, went to a party last year and was fatally stabbed. A family of wankers and the few good ones ended up dead, usually the way. Anyway, yeah.. where I come from it's a bad name.