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Klopp no more?

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by JurgenKlopp, Aug 26, 2019.

  1. King Binny

    King Binny Very Well-Known Honorary Member

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  2. dilbert

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    an article on Klopp's decision to hire a throw in coach last season


    Jurgen Klopp's ridiculed decision proven right by remarkable Liverpool improvement

    Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp was ridiculed when it was announced he had hired throw-in specialist Thomas Gronnemark last August.

    At the time of the appointment, former Everton striker Andy Gray took a swipe at the German manager
    Speaking on beIN Sports, the pundit sneered: "I’m sorry, a throw-in coach? Here’s the ball, pick it up with both hands, take it behind your head and throw it with both feet on the ground.
    "I’ve got a new one for you, I want to be the first kick-off coach."

    But new figures now show since Gronnemark's arrival at the club Liverpool have vastly improved their success rate and possession retention when taking throw-ins.

    Statistics from the 2018/19 campaign - highlighted by Tifo Football - show the Reds have gone from rivalling relegation bound clubs to becoming the most productive team at retaining possession from throws in Europe's top five leagues.

    Remarkably, this transformation took place over the course of the Dane's debut season at Melwood.

    Liverpool went from being the third worst throw-in takers in the Premier League to winning the ball back from throws taken under pressure 68.4 per cent of the time.

    The only club repping a better percentage in Europe is FC Midtjylland.
    Interestingly, the two-time Danish champions - who boast a 70.2% possession retainment rate - are also coached by the 43-year-old.

    In 2017/18, before the Dane joined Klopp's staff, Liverpool retained the ball 45.4 per cent and were only above now-relegated sides Swansea City and Huddersfield Town in the list of optimal throwers.
    The Reds allowed opposition teams to win the ball back 51.8 per cent of the time.
    Gronnemark, who recently announced he will remain at the club for the 2019/20 season, has helped Liverpool fine tune their throw-in game.
    So much so, Andy Robertson in particular has saw his throwing range increase by 11 metres.
    The Scottish left-back can now throw the ball a whopping 30 metres.




    30 metres? seriously?
    he can throw a ball farther than i can kick.

    on a more serious note, whenever i watched the game, up until the last game, vs burnley, i do wonder what our throw in coach had contributed to our game. and i will still won't notice any difference after this.

    that's why Klopp hires him not Andy Gray, i guess.
     
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  3. localny

    localny Well-Known Member

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    Next up - introducing "deflection" coaches - how to increase your chance of scoring from a surprise bounce in the box. Coach *Rick O'Shea* will increase your goal percentages...
     
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  4. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Mo(ssa)d Administrator

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    The coach for that is Chelsea's gaffa
     
  5. Dreambeliever

    Dreambeliever Looking on the brightside Member

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    Well you certainly needed to point that out because the point you just made above doesn’t relate at all to your previous post. Maybe you need to have coke, smile and shut the fuck up.
     
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    Dreambeliever Looking on the brightside Member

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    Ha stole my thoughts.

    Lampard scored a serious amount of deflections
     
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  7. juniormember

    juniormember Well-Known Member

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    I’m with you. I wasn’t against the idea of a throwin specialist coaching at LFC, primarily because TAA was absolute shite at them, but didn’t think I was seeing an improvement watching on last season. Guess I was wrong.
    I wonder how far his coaching goes. Is it just the throwers or is he coaching the rest of the team in terms of movement and positioning?
     
  8. doctor_mac

    doctor_mac My cowboy name is Garland Justice Moderator

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    Yes.
     
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    Ok Dreamy!
     
  10. juniormember

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    I wonder if it’s really true about George Best one day deciding to take a one-touch training game into his own hands by flicking the ball onto opposition players and eventually scoring all on his own without his teammates ever touching the ball.
     
  11. Judge Jules

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    Tell you what, it very well could be.  The greatest footballer I've ever seen - could do anything and everything Pele, Maradona, Messi and the rest have been able to do since AND tackled like an earth remover to win the ball himself when he got bored without it.  No-one else has ever had his range of skills, nor ever will again.
     
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    Judge Jules SCM Addict Member

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    ...said no-one seriously, ever.
     
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    He never really seemed to get the same recognition as the first two. Was it because of his relatively short career? Loads of people that actually saw him play say the same as you. My uncle, probably around the same age as you (105) has always said the same thing.
    Unfortunately I’ve only ever seen the odd highlights of him.
     
  14. Judge Jules

    Judge Jules SCM Addict Member

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    A variety of reasons, I suspect: partly half a career wasted, partly short memories, partly the fact that he was British and the others were from exotic S.America, partly the fact that he played international football for a side which (sorry Doc) was never going to win anything, unlike Brazil and Argentina.  None of that matters a hoot AFAIC.  To me only one criterion matters - what range of abilities could each player offer at his, er, best?  By that yardstick Best beats the lot, IMO of course.
     
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  15. momoWASboss

    momoWASboss Well-Known Member

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    He’s a manc cunt.
     
  16. Judge Jules

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    His club allegiance doesn't help, admittedly, but if you'd seen him play there's no way you could deny him the accolade.
     
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    He’d still get the accolade of manc cunt.
     
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  18. King Binny

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    (make that 5)
     
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    rurikbird Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    This one hints at something interesting. This team has the mentality of a team that "grinds out" victories combined with a skill-set of a team that "blows away" opposition. So we aim for consistency, hard work and respect for each opponent like a "grind out team" would, but once we get a hold of the game (like we did after the first 25 minutes vs Newcastle) we usually have the quality to score more than once, which is why 1:0 is a pretty rare scoreline for us.
     
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    Another 4 to go, which will seriously piss off Man City fans
     

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