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Pre Match: Porto (H) Wed 20:00

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by Brizzle, Nov 21, 2021.

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  1. Brizzle

    Brizzle Very Well-Known Member

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    Home game with nothing to gain. given no travel i expect a few first teamers to play but we really need to protect the midfielders.

    Alisson

    Neco
    Konate
    Phillips
    Tsimikas

    Morton
    Hendo or Milner (if he’s back)
    Ox

    Taki
    Origi (if fit)
    Gordon

    hard to judge with so many of the players we’d rotate being injured too!
     
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  2. momoWASboss

    momoWASboss If you take me seriously then you’re an idiot Member

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    I find it hard to argue with that team. Do we have any usual squad members ready to take that are coming back and need minutes? Is Milner the only one?
     
  3. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Administrator Administrator

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    Players who shouldn't play:

    TAA
    Matip
    VvD
    Robbo

    Fabinho
    Thiago

    Jota


    Mane and Salah are on great form - and they want to play ... let them play before their month in Africa.
     
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    SummerOnions Let's Push Things Forward Administrator

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    Kelleher
    Gomez
    Konate
    Philips
    Beck

    Morton
    Hendo (45)
    Ox (45)

    Neco
    Taki
    Gordon

    I don't even think we can rest all our players. Let's do that funny Neco at RW test though
     
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    Hansern SCM Addict Member

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    Rotate as much as possible, but still would like to get a result and not lose at home.
     
  6. Dreambeliever

    Dreambeliever From Doubter to Believer Member

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    2.6M to gain.
    We’ll play a strong side sadly.
     
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    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    play Robbo, I'm team Tsimikas now.
     
  8. Brizzle

    Brizzle Very Well-Known Member

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    I’m also team Tsimi but think Robbo needs a few games off so let’s keep the Greek in for this then Southampton.
     
  9. Frogfish

    Frogfish Gone to Redcafe Member

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    No. Did we not learn our lesson from Jota last season?

    I'll also add that not only do we play the joint most games from now until the end of the festive period (12) we also have a tougher set of fixtures to Chelsea and City. I'll be delighted if we are not further behind at the end of those games.

    Brizzle's team will do me. Bradley should be involved (as a sub or whatever) - he's playing great for the U23s.
     
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  10. momoWASboss

    momoWASboss If you take me seriously then you’re an idiot Member

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    Is it really that much after paying out our top earners bonuses?

    It is also the short term view. Losing key players would hit our league position and we’d possibly weaken the knockouts. If we did lose it’s harder for Atletico to qualify. They’d be more difficult to beat if we are drawn against them later in the competition than Porto.
     
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  11. Donavan Ried

    Donavan Ried Alive and still kicking, Just Member

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    I like this,But.... A commentator pointed out during the Arsenal game that the owners will want Liverpool to secure wins in the last two Champions League games so as not to miss out on the money paid for winning  games.. 2.8m euros per group-stage win, 930,000 euros per group-stage draw
     
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    Wouldn't even risk Alisson.

    Kelleher

    Neco
    Konate
    Phillips
    Tsimikas

    Morton
    Hendo
    Ox

    Taki
    Gordon
    Karius
     
  13. momoWASboss

    momoWASboss If you take me seriously then you’re an idiot Member

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    £2.5 million is the headline figure. Then knock off:
    Appearance fees
    Goal Bonus
    Assist bonus
    Clean sheet bonus

    Then any players we lose, 500k for each position plus attached sponsorship deals.
     
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    Donavan Ried Alive and still kicking, Just Member

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    I bow to your knowledge of this. But the point i was trying to make,Not at all well was FSG will want the highest amount of money coming in, therefore they will want Klopp to field a team that has the best chance of winning.

    Me personally I would field all the fringe players in the CL squad to give them the experience and save the start for the premier league games. We really don't need to win the last two games, plus If Porto beat us maybe it will be enough to put out alt if either AC gets a draw or defeats them, or Porto draws or beats them in their final group game
     
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    We have a tougher set of fixtures than Chelsea & City from now until the festive period?? That's very debatable. League wise, we have Southampton Villa Newcastle Leeds at home, Everton Wolves Spurs away. That's more than favourable. Not be easy by any means but could be much worse.
     
  16. momoWASboss

    momoWASboss If you take me seriously then you’re an idiot Member

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    They’re all shite.
     
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    rurikbird Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    Any chance Origi can return in time? If so, maybe a 4-4-2:

    -------------------Kelleher--------------------
    --------------Phillips----Konate-------------
    Bradley-----------------------------Tsimikas
    --------------Hendo----Morton--------------
    Ox----------------------------------------Neco
    -------------Origi------Minamino------------
     
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    Frogfish Gone to Redcafe Member

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    Ours looks tougher to me. A resurgent Wolves (A) plus Chelsea, Everton, Milan, Leicester and Spurs under Conte, all away.

    Chelsea's definitely looks easier, tougher games at home bar West Ham. More H games.

    City only have 11 matches to our 12 and should win the lot on paper, all their away games should be bankers. Their next match vs PSG doesn't really matter as City have already qualified.

    CFC.  (12 games in 41 days)
    Juventus  H
    United H
    Watford A
    West Ham A
    Zenit A
    Leeds H
    Everton H
    Wolves A
    Brentford A (LC)
    Villa A
    Brighton H
    Liverpool H

    CITY   (11 games in 39 days)
    PSG H
    West Ham H
    Wed Dec 1 - Aston Villa (A)
    Sat Dec 4 - Watford (A)
    RB Leipzig A
    Sat Dec 11 - Wolves (H)
    Tues Dec 14 - Leeds (H)
    Sun Dec 19 - Newcastle (A)
    Sun Dec 26 - Leicester (H)
    Wed Dec 29 - Brentford (A)
    Sat Jan 1 - Arsenal (A)

    LIVERPOOL (12 games in 40 days)
    Porto H
    Southampton H
    Everton A
    Wolves A
    AC Milan A
    Villa H
    Newcastle H
    Spurs A
    Leicester H (LC)
    Leeds H
    Leicester A
    Chelsea A
     
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    Brizzle Very Well-Known Member

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    I still think a fully rotated team can beat Porto at home. Taki is in form, Hendo will be playing, in-form full backs. Origi has looked decent (if fit). Konate, Nat & Ali would be solid.
     
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    King Binny Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    Would be nice to see Cannonier getting involved. After all, he was the ball boy behind that quickly taken corner. :D

    https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/clubs/7889--liverpool/squad/

    Article:
    Alisson Becker
    Adrián
    Caoimhin Kelleher
    Harvey Davies

    Virgil van Dijk
    Ibrahima Konaté
    Joe Gomez
    Kostas Tsimikas
    Andrew Robertson
    Joël Matip
    Nathaniel Phillips
    Trent Alexander-Arnold
    Neco Williams
    James Norris
    Jarell Quansah
    Luke Chambers
    Billy Koumetio


    Fabinho
    Thiago Alcántara
    James Milner
    Naby Keïta
    Roberto Firmino
    Sadio Mané
    Jordan Henderson
    Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
    Curtis Jones
    Elijah Dixon-Bonner
    Owen Beck
    Harvey Elliott
    Dominic Corness
    Tyler Morton
    Max Woltman
    Conor Bradley


    Mohamed Salah
    Takumi Minamino
    Diogo Jota
    Divock Origi
    James Balagizi
    Harvey Blair
    Oakley Cannonier
     
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