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Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by Halmeister, Jan 8, 2019.

  1. Halmeister

    Halmeister Some sort of pun about having a well known member Member

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    Have we had a worse left back than Alberto Moreno in the last 30 years?

    Sure, he's more technically gifted than, say, Djimi Traore. But Djimi won stuff. There was Konchesky, but he was fucked off after a few months. Dossena? Same again.

    Moreno has been here 4 years or so? He's consistently cost us games with no sign of improvement, he's even cost us finals. We bought him for a decent price, too. No fucker wants him either.

    All things considered, is he THE worst? Some going given the absolute bilge we've had play there.

    Who plays there in the ressies/U19s now? They surely cannot be as bad as Moreno. And even if they are, there's the chance they might improve and learn - something Moreno has proven he's incapable of doing over the length of his entire contract.
     
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    juniormember Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, in terms of time spent at the club, he’s easily the worst left back ever. Quick, not that good at attacking, shite at defending, shite at positioning, shite at passing. All round shite fella.
     
  3. Halmeister

    Halmeister Some sort of pun about having a well known member Member

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    See I didn't go with ever because I'm only 31 and haven't seen them all.

    But in terms of direct negative impact, longevity, lack of improvement... I can't think of a worse left back. You could say there hasn't been anybody as braindead and hopeless in any other position over such a period.
     
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    Molbystwin Very Active Member

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    Julian Dicks
     
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    Dreambeliever Looking on the brightside Member

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    The fact he's apparently been a model pro around the club and helped others settle gets him off the hook in terms of worst ever.

    I hope he never plays again for us though.
     
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    He was OK start of last season but yeah pretty shit.

    But the worst ever?? Worse than even Aly Cissokho, Emiliano Insua, Jose Enrique (tbf I love him), Gregory Vignal, Philipp Degen, Andrea Dossena, and Paul Konchesky???

    Really?
     
  7. Halmeister

    Halmeister Some sort of pun about having a well known member Member

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    He arguably has more talent than all of them, but have any of them cost us so many games - finals included - over such a long period of time?
     
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    juniormember Well-Known Member

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    Degen and Insua weren’t left backs, and the rest didn’t last long. The dickhead’s been with us how many seasons? 4 or 5 I think. Scary.
    So amongst those that were in the first team squad for a solid amount of time, I’d say he’s easily the worst. He hasn’t improved AT ALL since his debut.
     
  9. Shadey

    Shadey Every body's talking about Klopp music.. Member

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    I thought Dicks was pretty good at going in and out of the box, I even remember him lobbing Seaman over his head.
     
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    Woland Part of the Furniture Member

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    He's has brought great shame upon the family and must leave the village at once
     
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    tombrown Very Well-Known Member

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    I used to be able to do that when I was a teenager - these days I'm lucky if enough comes out to puddle, meekly, in the belly button
     
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    Watching that game tonight and I was laughing to myself thinking some of these characters would be in our strongest 11 not too long ago. Mignolet and Moreno can leave and not one fan would care. Pair of children.
     
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    Mystic Part of the Furniture Member

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    He scored that goal against Spurs though.
     
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    Lippy Semolina No... ????? Member

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    Moreno is the footballing Forrest Gump. Can run up and and down all day but hasn't got clue number one between his ears. His ability to consistently miss the ball and throw his whole body around at situations without any kind of rationale is unerring.
     
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    Was it Aly Cissokho who played an awful ball to Hendo that led to him being sent off at the end of 2013/14?

    Moreno is useless - he used to be confident going forwards and you could potentailly forgive the odd moment of being out of position. Now he occupies space high up but doesn't threaten, just plays hopeful passes that don't come off or immediately passes it back to where it came from - all whilst being caught out of position.
     
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    SummerOnions Let's Push Things Forward Member

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    Nah that was Moses.

    Tbf I think we've had more shit full backs than any other position I remember
     
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    RedStar Very Active Member

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    Left back has had some absolute belters hasnt it, perhaps only goal keeper has been as disasterous in terms of recruitment over the years
     
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    Rosco Worse than Brendan Administrator

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    He seems to be impervious to coaching.

    I reckon if there was a plus/minus goals stat which valued a player by the amount of goals they added or cost to a team Moreno would be a huge minus. He seems to be worth a goal a game to the opposition.

    Granted he has stiff competition for the title but some of the others have excuses or redeeming qualities.
     
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    Even more so if we weighted the importance of the goal and importance of the game.
     
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    Barba Roja Plundering since 2005... Member

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    He took a mean penalty though.
     

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