Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by HC, Jul 3, 2020.
In fairness, I still don't really see why we're making this signing, but oh well.
Liverpool on the verge of signing Thiago from Bayern Munich
17 September 2020Updated 09:30 BST
Liverpool have agreed to sign Thiago Alcantara from Bayern Munich for a fee of around €30 million, The Athletic can exclusively reveal. Negotiations have accelerated since Monday after Bayern officials made it clear they wanted a deal completed before the start of the Bundesliga season, which starts tomorrow with the European champions hosting Schalke. Though the midfielder still has to finalise terms, that part should be more straightforward. Thiago had negotiated a contract extension in May, but he changed his mind just before signing, telling Bayern that he wanted to take up a “new challenge”. Since then Liverpool has been his preferred destination.
Why are Liverpool signing him?
James Pearce, Liverpool reporter: Given that he is 29 and will command big wages, it is a deal out of keeping with Liverpool's usual transfer policy of investing in young talent. But the relatively low fee given his contractual situation meant Liverpool ultimately decided he was worth making an exception for.
Jurgen Klopp is a huge admirer. When Liverpool signed Naby Keita, Klopp said he had been the best player in the Bundesliga along with Thiago.
Where will he fit into the team?
Pearce: Filling one of the two more advanced midfield positions in Klopp’s favoured 4-3-3 system. Thiago can also play in the holding role but his vision and creativity is best used further forward.
His range of passing will be a major asset, especially against opponents who sit deep and try to frustrate Klopp's side.
Anfield officials had previously insisted they would only pursue a deal for Thiago if one of Klopp’s established midfielders left the club before the transfer deadline. It remains to be seen whether one will now head for the exit door.
Georginio Wijnaldum has entered the final year of his contract and has attracted interest from new Barcelona boss Ronald Koeman.
Why is Thiago leaving the European champions?
Simon Hughes, football reporter: Thiago negotiated a contract extension in May but changed his mind. He decided that he wanted to take up "a new challenge" and told Bayern that he would be departing after seven years at the cub.
Bayern believe that his decision is not financially driven and have taken his explanation at face value. Hansi Flick tried to change Thiago's mind but Bayern's Champions League win only reinforced the sense that he had achieved everything in Munich.
What does this mean for Bayern's transfer strategy?
Raphael Honigstein, German football correspondent: The European champions will not look to replace the playmaker in this window — they have more pressing needs on the flanks and the right-back position. Bayern will look to reinvest the proceeds from Thiago's sale in the coming weeks.
Joshua Kimmich and Leon Goretzka will be first choice in central midfield, with French duo Corentin Tolisso and Michael Cuisance as back-ups.
TPG really has been feeding you misinformation, and some people have been eating it up with a big spoon. Well not me mister!
He will be a DM.. when fabs is playing CB.. Fabs will be 4th Choice CB, first choice DM
Milner is going to play less this season, and we have lost Lallana.. He is a direct replacement for both of them. Excellent presser with an eye for a pass .
If we want to compete in all competitions we need bodies in the team.. Not just numbers but quality players in the team..
We need a great passer of the ball in midfield, because when we are missing our full backs, we struggle to break teams down, with VVD and Henderson only being the other quality passers of the the ball in the Team
Shaq the other great ball player.. is always injured..
Gorst is in on the reverse jinx, now thats committing to the cause.
Here's a novel idea... if we're short on DMs and CBs, why not buy DMs and CBs?
Thiago needs a defensive midfielder alongside him, he's not that player. And Fabinho is not a CB. More plugging holes.
He did brilliantly for Bayern recently playing in a DM position..
Great signing, kinda disappointing we didn't sign him during preseason as now he'll come in with no time to prep.
Which DM played next to him at Bayern?
Hahaha can't believe we are signing a player.
Also feels nice to be in for a baller, we never normally do this.
Bet he's shit.
Sky saying the inital fee is 22 mill £
There were reports they were adding 5m if they won the CL. Maybe they thought they were handing us more Coutinho money by winning it.
Also a big thanks to @Halmeister for jinxing this one over the line.
@Rosco how you feeling buddy? #notransfers
You mind fucker.
Stop fucking with us - just like last year, "We won't win the league guys - just pack it in" and BANG, we win the league.
This year? "we won't sign Thiago, or anyone for that matter" and BANG, we sign Thiago.
I'm delighted by this.
The plan could be to keep Gini and push Chamberlain out wide. That's the only way the midfield numbers work as it stands.
If a midfielder doesn't make way then I'll be amazed we also go for Sarr or alternative wing cover.
I think you're wrong here.
He's now a sitting, ball playing DM. He's been playing alongside Goreztka (a box to box CM) recently.
He will give us a new dimension. Central penetration. Right now, almost everything goes through our full backs.
We are signing a genuine world class midfielder. Probably top 5 in the world. This is a tremendous statement.
For years, we've all complained about our workhorse midfield. Finally we're getting a midfielder who is an absolute baller and who is very at good at pressing/intercepting too!
As Skysports says..
"Only Wolfsburg's Maximilian Arnold reclaimed possession in the middle third more than Thiago in the Bundesliga last season - and he played 1,055 minutes more than the Spain international."
The guy is what Keita promised to be...
"The Bayern midfielder would also offer an improved dimension to Liverpool's existing midfield tranche: the ability to run with the ball. His frequency of completed dribbles is outstanding, given the fact he patrols central areas of the pitch."
Does this stifle Curtis? Will Gini not be offered a renewal despite his change of heart? More questions than answers. But he is elite enough for this to be good news. We should let Milner go to Leeds on a free, it seems his opportunities will be non existant.
Milner is one of the dressing room leaders and seems content to play a bit part role. He will still get minutes, and he's exactly the guy you wanna bring on with 10 mins to go to seal a result.
I think we've decided the Ox is kinda done here, sadly
We could push Ox out wide... to Southampton.