Any news or rumours on these three? They easily cost us 15 mill a year only in wages!
Cole, Jova, Poulson
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If we got a fee for each of them that total might be about right, but I'd expect both Cole and Jovanovic to go (as they came) on free transfers. The reasons are that (a) we'll be that keen to get them off the wage bill and (b), because of their wages, other clubs won't take them if they have to stump up a fee as well. Poulsen on his own might possibly fetch £1 mill, £1.5 mill.tops.
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Squiggles
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We'll end up loaning them out and paying a chunk of their wages for the duration on their contract, or they'll otherwise have to be released.
We'll be paying the price for some insane decisions taken from both the board and the previous management.
We'll be paying the price for some insane decisions taken from both the board and the previous management.
[quote author=Lewy link=topic=45873.msg1355570#msg1355570 date=1309099033]
how much dya reckon we'll get if we can offload them?? 10 max maybe? and thats without having to pay off some of their wages
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If we are lucky it will only cost us around 5 or so million to get shut off them. The wages they are on makes them laibilities not assets to sell, NOBODY would actually buy them.
how much dya reckon we'll get if we can offload them?? 10 max maybe? and thats without having to pay off some of their wages
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If we are lucky it will only cost us around 5 or so million to get shut off them. The wages they are on makes them laibilities not assets to sell, NOBODY would actually buy them.
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the_khl
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We should be able to get around £2M for Poulsen as he's still rated in Denmark and could do a job in the Superleague where there are teams who can afford that sum of money.
Whether he'd accept a heavy pay-decrease is another issue though.
Whether he'd accept a heavy pay-decrease is another issue though.
Anyone who might want them will hold all the bargaining power. Imagine if we were after a player on huge wages that another club was desperate to get rid of. Even if we were prepared to pay the wage would we want to pay any fee too? No chance.
With nothing to play for last season it might've been better to give them games. We made it very obvious we didn't want them. Having said that maybe they were on stupid deals that would've given them even more had they played.
Making them available for free and hoping they will agree to a wage cut might be our best option. Failing that the best outcome would be to loan them out
With nothing to play for last season it might've been better to give them games. We made it very obvious we didn't want them. Having said that maybe they were on stupid deals that would've given them even more had they played.
Making them available for free and hoping they will agree to a wage cut might be our best option. Failing that the best outcome would be to loan them out
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the_khl
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[quote author=Richey link=topic=45873.msg1355825#msg1355825 date=1309163825]
Anyone who might want them will hold all the bargaining power. Imagine if we were after a player on huge wages that another club was desperate to get rid of. Even if we were prepared to pay the wage would we want to pay any fee too? No chance.
With nothing to play for last season it might've been better to give them games. We made it very obvious we didn't want them. Having said that maybe they were on stupid deals that would've given them even more had they played.
Making them available for free and hoping they will agree to a wage cut might be our best option. Failing that the best outcome would be to loan them out
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Agree with a lot of this.
We've got ourselves into a right pickle.
Anyone who might want them will hold all the bargaining power. Imagine if we were after a player on huge wages that another club was desperate to get rid of. Even if we were prepared to pay the wage would we want to pay any fee too? No chance.
With nothing to play for last season it might've been better to give them games. We made it very obvious we didn't want them. Having said that maybe they were on stupid deals that would've given them even more had they played.
Making them available for free and hoping they will agree to a wage cut might be our best option. Failing that the best outcome would be to loan them out
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Agree with a lot of this.
We've got ourselves into a right pickle.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=45873.msg1355823#msg1355823 date=1309163808]
We should be able to get around £2M for Poulsen as he's still rated in Denmark and could do a job in the Superleague where there are teams who can afford that sum of money.
Whether he'd accept a heavy pay-decrease is another issue though.
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I'd agree with that, I'd go with:
Poulsen £2m
Jova £2.5m
Cole £4m
The problem is we've got to come to an agreement over the remainder of their contracts.
We should be able to get around £2M for Poulsen as he's still rated in Denmark and could do a job in the Superleague where there are teams who can afford that sum of money.
Whether he'd accept a heavy pay-decrease is another issue though.
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I'd agree with that, I'd go with:
Poulsen £2m
Jova £2.5m
Cole £4m
The problem is we've got to come to an agreement over the remainder of their contracts.
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[quote author=KHL link=topic=45873.msg1355823#msg1355823 date=1309163808]
We should be able to get around £2M for Poulsen as he's still rated in Denmark and could do a job in the Superleague where there are teams who can afford that sum of money.
Whether he'd accept a heavy pay-decrease is another issue though.
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I'd agree with that, I'd go with:
Poulsen £2m
Jova £2.5m
Cole £4m
The problem is we've got to come to an agreement over the remainder of their contracts.
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Good point re the Danish league. If Poulsen is highly rated there teams might be interested.
I'd be surprised if anyone really wants to pay a lot, or anything, for Joe Cole though. If anything he has proved this season that signing him is at the very least a risk.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=45873.msg1355823#msg1355823 date=1309163808]
We should be able to get around £2M for Poulsen as he's still rated in Denmark and could do a job in the Superleague where there are teams who can afford that sum of money.
Whether he'd accept a heavy pay-decrease is another issue though.
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I'd agree with that, I'd go with:
Poulsen £2m
Jova £2.5m
Cole £4m
The problem is we've got to come to an agreement over the remainder of their contracts.
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Good point re the Danish league. If Poulsen is highly rated there teams might be interested.
I'd be surprised if anyone really wants to pay a lot, or anything, for Joe Cole though. If anything he has proved this season that signing him is at the very least a risk.
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I'd be surprised if anyone really wants to pay a lot, or anything, for Joe Cole though. If anything he has proved this season that signing him is at the very least a risk.
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Redknapp??
I'd be surprised if anyone really wants to pay a lot, or anything, for Joe Cole though. If anything he has proved this season that signing him is at the very least a risk.
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Redknapp??
[quote author=KHL link=topic=45873.msg1355823#msg1355823 date=1309163808]
We should be able to get around £2M for Poulsen as he's still rated in Denmark and could do a job in the Superleague where there are teams who can afford that sum of money.
Whether he'd accept a heavy pay-decrease is another issue though.
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It's that pay differential which causes me to doubt that we could expect to get more than £1 mill.for him, £1.5 mill.at the absolute outside. Danish clubs will need to save on the fee to pay the wages just like everyone else.
We should be able to get around £2M for Poulsen as he's still rated in Denmark and could do a job in the Superleague where there are teams who can afford that sum of money.
Whether he'd accept a heavy pay-decrease is another issue though.
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It's that pay differential which causes me to doubt that we could expect to get more than £1 mill.for him, £1.5 mill.at the absolute outside. Danish clubs will need to save on the fee to pay the wages just like everyone else.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=45873.msg1355823#msg1355823 date=1309163808]
We should be able to get around £2M for Poulsen as he's still rated in Denmark and could do a job in the Superleague where there are teams who can afford that sum of money.
Whether he'd accept a heavy pay-decrease is another issue though.
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any idea how much he's on?
We should be able to get around £2M for Poulsen as he's still rated in Denmark and could do a job in the Superleague where there are teams who can afford that sum of money.
Whether he'd accept a heavy pay-decrease is another issue though.
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any idea how much he's on?
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the_khl
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[quote author=KHL link=topic=45873.msg1355823#msg1355823 date=1309163808]
We should be able to get around £2M for Poulsen as he's still rated in Denmark and could do a job in the Superleague where there are teams who can afford that sum of money.
Whether he'd accept a heavy pay-decrease is another issue though.
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any idea how much he's on?
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Not at all.
But if Jova's rumoured salary is anything to go buy then 'far to much' would be my bold guess.
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We should be able to get around £2M for Poulsen as he's still rated in Denmark and could do a job in the Superleague where there are teams who can afford that sum of money.
Whether he'd accept a heavy pay-decrease is another issue though.
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any idea how much he's on?
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Not at all.
But if Jova's rumoured salary is anything to go buy then 'far to much' would be my bold guess.
You're the expert obv.but I'd imagine Prem wages are much higher generally than those in Denmark.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=45873.msg1355930#msg1355930 date=1309172751]
And Joey Cole is on £90k until 2014
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I wouldn't be too upset if cole stayed another season.
And Joey Cole is on £90k until 2014
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I wouldn't be too upset if cole stayed another season.
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the_khl
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=45873.msg1355926#msg1355926 date=1309172511]
You're the expert obv.but I'd imagine Prem wages are much higher generally than those in Denmark.
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No more expert than you mate.
They are WAY higher of course and therein lies the real problem with regards to Poulsen.
The highest earners in the Danish league are banking just shy of £900.000 to £1M a year all inclusive I believe. With the special 'science-tax'-system he'd only pay around 20-30% in taxes his first three years though.
Biggest issue here is that I doubt that his old club Copenhagen will be in for him as they've just bought some Norwegian midfield-terrier in Holland and both OB and Brøndby are not quite as strong economical-wise. But you'll never know of course.
You're the expert obv.but I'd imagine Prem wages are much higher generally than those in Denmark.
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No more expert than you mate.
They are WAY higher of course and therein lies the real problem with regards to Poulsen.
The highest earners in the Danish league are banking just shy of £900.000 to £1M a year all inclusive I believe. With the special 'science-tax'-system he'd only pay around 20-30% in taxes his first three years though.
Biggest issue here is that I doubt that his old club Copenhagen will be in for him as they've just bought some Norwegian midfield-terrier in Holland and both OB and Brøndby are not quite as strong economical-wise. But you'll never know of course.
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=45873.msg1355930#msg1355930 date=1309172751]
And Joey Cole is on £90k until 2014
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I wouldn't be too upset if cole stayed another season.
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There's got to be some issue, I don't think he's a bad player but finding his best position is a big problem. When you consider how much he's on, we could easily have two players picking up the same amount, so it's logical to get shut. I tend to agree though regards him personally, I wouldn't be devastated if he stayed.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=45873.msg1355930#msg1355930 date=1309172751]
And Joey Cole is on £90k until 2014
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I wouldn't be too upset if cole stayed another season.
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There's got to be some issue, I don't think he's a bad player but finding his best position is a big problem. When you consider how much he's on, we could easily have two players picking up the same amount, so it's logical to get shut. I tend to agree though regards him personally, I wouldn't be devastated if he stayed.
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the_khl
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Cole done my head in all of last Season. Not once did he look like the Cole of Chelsea I thought would be a bargain for us.
Same thing could be said of Poulsen with regards to his time in Sevilla at least and probably of Jova with regards to his time in Belgium as well.
Not a good streak that.
Same thing could be said of Poulsen with regards to his time in Sevilla at least and probably of Jova with regards to his time in Belgium as well.
Not a good streak that.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=45873.msg1355933#msg1355933 date=1309172927]
You can see why there might be an issue with Ming;
£28k p/w
Brad Jones is rumoured to be on £20k!
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What about N'gog mate?
You can see why there might be an issue with Ming;
£28k p/w
Brad Jones is rumoured to be on £20k!
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What about N'gog mate?
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=45873.msg1355933#msg1355933 date=1309172927]
You can see why there might be an issue with Ming;
£28k p/w
Brad Jones is rumoured to be on £20k!
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What about N'gog mate?
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Has he signed a new contract recently? His original contract expires next year at £10k pw.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=45873.msg1355933#msg1355933 date=1309172927]
You can see why there might be an issue with Ming;
£28k p/w
Brad Jones is rumoured to be on £20k!
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What about N'gog mate?
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Has he signed a new contract recently? His original contract expires next year at £10k pw.
it's a good game and if suarez were to get injuried the closet to suarez in style (if not ability) is cole.
just out of interest, where are you getting these figures from mark? the jova one in particular is a lot lower than previously thought.
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just out of interest, where are you getting these figures from mark? the jova one in particular is a lot lower than previously thought.
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A lad I know who works in the press emailed it a while back mate, I'm not sure how valid they are, he seems to think it's on the money.
just out of interest, where are you getting these figures from mark? the jova one in particular is a lot lower than previously thought.
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A lad I know who works in the press emailed it a while back mate, I'm not sure how valid they are, he seems to think it's on the money.
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the_khl
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Cheers for the info Mark. Nice to see especially Jova's salary to be far less than first rumoured.
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[quote author=peterhague link=topic=45873.msg1355954#msg1355954 date=1309174388]
just out of interest, where are you getting these figures from mark? the jova one in particular is a lot lower than previously thought.
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A lad I know who works in the press emailed it a while back mate, I'm not sure how valid they are, he seems to think it's on the money.
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you should be able to tell from the total - it should come to £120m or so, or just under £2.4m a week. that's if the £120m is right in the first place, of course, but it should be close enough based on the 2010 accounts.
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=45873.msg1355954#msg1355954 date=1309174388]
just out of interest, where are you getting these figures from mark? the jova one in particular is a lot lower than previously thought.
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A lad I know who works in the press emailed it a while back mate, I'm not sure how valid they are, he seems to think it's on the money.
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you should be able to tell from the total - it should come to £120m or so, or just under £2.4m a week. that's if the £120m is right in the first place, of course, but it should be close enough based on the 2010 accounts.
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