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@neiljonesecho: From the well-connected @paulfraserecho: Stewart Downing would welcome the chance to return to Middlesbrough on loan http://t.co/mQ7fgJri

I can't copy the entire article for some reason, but apparently this truly shit cunt is on his way out ASAP.
 
They can fuck off. Buy him or do one. What's the point of letting someone out of our paper-thin squad go on loan, and we'd be probably paying half his wages. At this rate we'd not have enough players to do a 11 vs 11 in training. He's shit, but we need players for our 1st team to train with.
 
MIDDLESBROUGH are the front-runners in the race to land Stewart Downing but the next 72 hours could be crucial if hopes of bringing the Liverpool winger back home are to be realised.
A number of Premier League clubs are interested in making a January move to end his Anfield frustrations after falling out of favour with manager Brendan Rodgers.
But with the prospect of spending the next six weeks or more out of the first team picture, Downing is understood to be attracted by the prospect of moving back to Teesside this week.
With the Football League deadline for loan deals on the horizon on Thursday, time is running out for a deal to be struck.
Liverpool would prefer to raise some cash from selling £10m-rated Downing in the new year, but Middlesbrough would only have the money to meet such demands if they returned to the top-flight.
Everton and his former manager Martin O’Neill, now at Sunderland, are likely to be among those interested after Christmas.
However, Downing would prefer for something to happen sooner rather than later to avoid spending the next couple of months on the sidelines.
A short-term drop into the Championship with Middlesbrough, who have genuine hopes of being in the promotion mix this season, is a realistic option.

Boro chairman Steve Gibson is unlikely to fund all of Downing’s hefty Premier League wage, but it is hoped Liverpool would agree to pay a significant chunk given he would not be moving to a topflight rival.
Boro would face greater competition for the 28-yearold’s signature when the transfer window opens on January 1, so a loan deal before close of business on Thursday will be discussed over the next few days.
Rodgers does not want Downing, just weeks after the player had spoken of a determination to prove to the manager he deserves a place in the Liverpool team after being on the fringes all season.
The situation took a turn for the worse over the weekend when the England winger, part of Roy Hodgson’s Euro 2012 squad, was omitted from the squad that defeated Wigan 3-0. Downing has already been switched by Rodgers from his preferred wing role to leftback and he hit a brilliant winner against Anzhi Makhachkala in the Europa League last month.
But that was just the fourth goal of Downing’s Liverpool career since Kenny Dalglish took him from Aston Villa in 2011. He has only made one Premier League start under Rodgers.
Downing was a graduate of Boro’s academy and became a fans’ favourite during his seven years around the first team squad following his debut at Ipswich Town in 2002.
He was part of the Boro team that made the UEFA Cup final in 2006 when his three assists led to a memorable semi-final comeback win over Steaua Bucharest.
When Boro were relegated in 2009 he moved to Aston Villa for £12m.


from a £20m signing to on loan in the championship within 15 months , even if it is just a short term deal . fuck me
 
Ha. He is fucking awful. I tried desperately to give him the benefit of the doubt but there really is none to give
 
They can fuck off. Buy him or do one. What's the point of letting someone out of our paper-thin squad go on loan, and we'd be probably paying half his wages. At this rate we'd not have enough players to do a 11 vs 11 in training. He's shit, but we need players for our 1st team to train with.

But he aint playing. I'd sell im for 10p. Fuck da training, tink of da money saved/
 
Shit footballer, can't wait to get rid. Don't know what kenny was thinking when he went for Downing. The guy has always been a shit footballer. Rafa didn't even want him at £12m.
 
Downing isn't a sh!t footballer (he's quick, two-footed and versatile). His problem is he's a wuss, not mentally strong enough to cope with the expectation of being at a top club.

That's bollox.

He's simply past his best
 
That's the ambition of a footballer who has shit his kecks at the thought of achieving something in his career.
His performance at Anfield against United last season showed that he's a frightened little boy.
Send the mediocre middle of the road cunt back to a shit club and a shithole of a town just where he could be *someone*.
 
That's the ambition of a footballer who has shit his kecks at the thought of achieving something in his career.
His performance at Anfield against United last season showed that he's a frightened little boy.
Send the mediocre middle of the road cunt back to a shit club and a shithole of a town just where he could be *someone*.

He not even good enuff for Irelands.
 
That's bollox.

He's simply past his best

The fuck he is... Past his what? Without me having followed him through his (certainly) thrilling good carrer I am quite absolute positiv he has been on a flow once in his life. And that, still trivial, flow lasting a few months made us cough up good money for an average wingerwith abolsutely no potential of lifting our club.Worst signing in ages.
 
He isnt past his best, thats bs at 28.
Didnt make it because of confidence issues and not having the mentality to succeed at a top club.
He hasnt even performed like he did for Villa.

That said he's better off somewhere else, and we should get 8-10 mill back.
 
Why do people refuse to accept the bloody obvious and make up completely ridiculous reasons why someone isn't very good? It's really fucking simple.
 
That's bollox.

He's simply past his best
His best was never very good to begin with. He was at best an above-average mid-table PL winger who we bought after his peak season.

*bangs head against wall*

I remember pointing this out in that Downing thread only to be scoffed at. It should've been clear as day to anyone with a bit of sense that it was going to be up there with Aqua and Carroll as one of the biggest transfer clusterfucks we've made in recent years.
 
He isnt past his best, thats bs at 28.
Didnt make it because of confidence issues and not having the mentality to succeed at a top club.
He hasnt even performed like he did for Villa.

That said he's better off somewhere else, and we should get 8-10 mill back.
I argued in that thread that his true value was 6-8 million. It's max 4 million today. We shouldn't expect anything more.
 
Exactly we bought an average player who just had his best run of form. There were red flags all over the place.
 
Exactly we bought an average player who just had his best run of form. There were red flags all over the place.
Indeed, I don't accept it is down to the size of his bollocks either, that will be a constant that won't have changed.
He looks utterly clueless what to do.
When he was played with the second string he was by some way the most expensive and experienced player on the pitch and on several occasions was the worst. I don't know how we will get shut
"Ten million pound rated" is a bit of a liberty, he is not worth five, and no silly bastard is going to pay the wages we are.
The only realistic way out is a loan, with us paying part of his wages
Vlads Verdict; we fucked up again, get out of it as best we can "taxi to Boro! "

regards
 
Because Ross, the past it argument doesnt work on EVERY player.
Not cutting it and being past it are two very different issues.

Downing is a better player then what he's shown, but he's finished here and should move on.
Rodgers wanted him to show some bollocks and instead he sulked about it.
He doesnt cut it at all. Sadly we paid through the roof for a player our scout reports should have discovered wouldnt cut it.


Sell him for whatever fee we can get.
 
Because Ross, the past it argument doesnt work on EVERY player.
Not cutting it and being past it are two very different issues.

Downing is a better player then what he's shown, but he's finished here and should move on.
Rodgers wanted him to show some bollocks and instead he sulked about it.
He doesnt cut it at all. Sadly we paid through the roof for a player our scout reports should have discovered wouldnt cut it.


Sell him for whatever fee we can get.

Hansern that is a complete load of rubbish.

If he simply lacks the bollocks (the same was said of Keane btw), then as soon as he's not at a 'top club' he'll play like he did before, won't he?

He won't though, he isn't better than what he's showing. He is what he is, his best seasons are in the past. And you didn't need to be a football scout to recognise that. All you need to do is not get caught up in nonsensical ideas based on stupid journos mutterings.

We bought a lemon.
 
Everton... did that article say Everton where interested.... fuck me... that would be a triple win... getting rid of the useless fucker... getting some money for him... and getting to laugh at Everton for signing him.
 
I'd imagine more than one of Sunderland, Villa, Wigan, QPR, Stoke, Fulham, West Ham, West Brom would be interested at 6-8m in january.
 
Whatever fee we get will only go towards paying the difference between his current wages and his next deal with any of those clubs.
 
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