Klopp to leave Dortmund at the end of the season

[Hansern]

Being reported in the media today. Press conference later today were he'll announce that he will leave after this season. Tuchel is the front runner for the Dortmund job.

Klopp hasn't decided yet where he wants to go.

 

[Mors]

Pellegrini for the push then.

 

[cloggypop]

Honigstein on it in the Guardian

http://www.theguardian.com/football...asks-leave-borussia-dortmund?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

[gkmacca]

Someone post a clip of Klopp.

 

[MomoWASright]

If City want Guardiola when he leaves Bayern then Klopp won't be a target for them. Some people on twitter are guessing he will take a year out. Others are suggesting Madrid will sack Ancelloti and they'll be after Klopp.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Supposedly wants a break ... 1 more year to replace Rodgers then? (That comment was written for my RedNinja)

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32317833

 

[6TimesaRed]

Someone post a clip of Klopp.

 

[Buddha]

It won't happen (and arguably shouldn't), but he'd be loved at Anfield.

 

[hmmmmm1]

Will have his pick of jobs.

 

[Hansern]

Hasnt he already said that he wont take a year off?

 

[jon545660]

Someone post a clip of Klopp.

I clapped at your clip of Klopp.

 

[Silver Sean]

Won two league titles in a league containing Bayern Munich, competes every year (apart from this one it seems) after selling his best players every season, won the German cup, supercup, been manager of the year there and FIFA coach of the year and got them to a CL final. If he's available we would be crazy not to consider him wouldn't we?
I'm so in the dark as to where BR is taking us. I have no clue whether he should be here for decades or last season was the high watermark.

 

[peekay]

Not to denigrate his achievements, but until recently Klopp was able to rely on an outstanding DOF and transfer system. The way Dortmund scout and conduct transfers also contributed significantly to his success. Recently, in the last two years, when their scouting and transfers have been bad, he has suffered.

Not sure if he would succeed here at Liverpool, as our transfers have been horrendous. We should focus on fixing our transfer system before going after new hip managers.

 

[jexykrodic]

Yeah, but would we go top or face the drop with Klopp?

 

[6TimesaRed]

I would be well in favour of giving BR the boot just to get this fella in (if the season ends on a sour note)..

If we fail with Champions league qualification and flunk in the cup, look at getting him in...

He would have such a bigger appeal for the club in terms of signing players than BR..

 

[6TimesaRed]

Not to denigrate his achievements, but until recently Klopp was able to rely on an outstanding DOF and transfer system. The way Dortmund scout and conduct transfers also contributed significantly to his success. Recently, in the last two years, when their scouting and transfers have been bad, he has suffered.

Not sure if he would succeed here at Liverpool, as our transfers have been horrendous. We should focus on fixing our transfer system before going after new hip managers.

True dat.. though you would think Klopp would have a bigger 'pulling power' in terms of player transfers than BR currently does..

 

[peekay]

True dat.. though you would think Klopp would have a bigger 'pulling power' in terms of player transfers than BR currently does..

So did Rafa, but that definitely did not help us as our transfers converged to being horrendous towards the end of his reign. "Pulling power, charisma" may help in tilting the favor in one or two transfers, may even help in getting one or two "marquis players" ( god I hate that term), but for sustained success we need to have a good transfer system in place.

Rafa, Brendan, King Kenny are all very good coaches. It is the identifying players under budget constraints part where they failed.

 

[C/O]

I have a horrible feeling that Van Gaal will step down and the scum will get him.

 

[cloggypop]

one or two "marquis players" ( god I hate that term)

How about marquee players?

 

[Rosco]

A Marquis player is a chubby Australian lesbian player

 

[King Binny]

Is Klopp's input written off too easily, simply because of the existence of a DOF system? Neven Subotic, for example, was his ex-player at Mainz.

[article=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2487434/Neven-Subotic-interview-Borussia-Dortmund-v-Arsenal-preview.html#ixzz3XOF3cIXH ]Subotic has worked for seven years with Klopp, who signed him for Mainz and then Dortmund in 2008. ‘You go into a room and see people laughing and you know he is in the middle just being himself. He is very friendly, very funny but then as a coach he has that serious side too.

‘He stands out in the way he gets people to want to be on his good side, everybody wants him to be proud of them because he does so much for us. You see him always working and thinking about this tactic and that. He puts a lot of work and effort in and we all try to at least match that, if not top it.’

‘He is very emotional because he is very heavily invested in this team. You can tell he cares so much that he acts on it. If something happens to a family member that we care so much about we would cry and for him it is kind of the same thing.’[/article]

- Erik Durm was snapped up from Mainz too
[article=http://bundesligafanatic.com/how-erik-durm-has-benefitted-from-borussia-dortmunds-defensive-crisis/#sthash.bpLsAanA.dpuf]In the summer of 2012 though, another man made the journey from Mainz to Borussia Dortmund. Young striker Erik Durm didn’t play a game for the Mainz first team but he was offered a four year deal by the club before departing. The problem for Durm was that he wasn’t given the assurances he wanted – that he’d be training with the pros at the club. As talks broke down, Borussia Dortmund came in and off Durm went to the reigning German champions.

After an initial spell in his preferred role as a striker, Durm then flitted between playing as a left midfielder and as a winger. It wasn’t until he had a chat with Jürgen Klopp after a training session with the first team towards the end of the last campaign that the idea of becoming a full back was put to him.[/article]

Peter Krawietz and Zeljko Buvac were also 2 backroom staffs who made the move from Mainz together with Klopp to Dortmund.

He got to know Jürgen Klopp when they worked together for many years in Mainz.

Krawietz had begun working there in 1996 as part of a project investigating the possibilities of video analysis. According to Krawietz, Klopp was the player who showed most interest in the work he was doing. The project led to Krawietz taking up a paid role at the club and when Klopp became head coach Krawietz worked as a scout for FSV. Upon promotion, Krawietz was tasked with setting up his own scouting system. When Jürgen Klopp told his best man that he would very much like to take him to Dortmund with him, Krawietz asked for a night to think about it.

Of cos, there's lots of other things Klopp deserved credit for - not plainly reaping the rewards as a beneficiary of a good scouting/DOF system
- Making Subotic and Hummels the youngest center back pairing in the Bundesliga back in 08/09
- Grosskreutz returning on loan having played past 3 seasons in lower leagues to become an instant regular in 09/10
- Sahin returned from a loan at Feyenoord went on to blossom under Klopp before earning his move to Real Madrid
- Schmelzer was handed his debut by Klopp
[article]A year ago Jürgen Klopp made the following remark about Marcel Schmelzer: “Of all the players, he has made the most progress. He has improved in such a way that not even we coaches could anticipate.” This development launched the left-back into the German national squad but he didn’t get to play in the European championships. Commenting on his inclusion, he said, “Just to be included in the 23 man squad was a highlight for me.” This from a man who just four years earlier had been in the ranks of BVB’s reserve team. Jürgen Klopp then arrived as the new BVB coach having observed from a distance in his role at Mainz the talents of this young defender.

Schmelzer looks back on that time: “Klopp was the only guy from the professional side of the club who had faith in me and could see a way for me to get into the first team. ”By November 2010 the hard-running Schmelzer had managed to oust the incumbent and fans’ favourite Dede from a spot in the starting eleven and made his debut in Sweden for the German national team. Strong performances in the league and a Bundesliga winner’s medal pretty much made German coach Joachim Löw select him.[/article]
- On Lewandowski:
Jurgen Klopp sums it up: “He will always be the textbook example for scouting and patience. We observed him often and for a long time. We signed a good striker who leaves now as a world-class striker, which is also down to his own exceptional motivation and ambition.”

 

[peekay]

Is Klopp's input written off too easily, simply because of the existence of a DOF system? Neven Subotic, for example, was his ex-player at Mainz.

Definitely not. Klopp is without a doubt one of the top and innovative managers of the game and the work he did with Dortmund will be remembered by football fans for ages. There are several key factors and variables contributing to his success and his ability to squeeze the best of the circumstances is definitely the most important one. His tactical acumen, leadership, and personality was brilliant. There was a connection between the fans and the football they played on the pitch and his personality which I have rarely seen in the modern era.

Rafa left Valencia with some serious pedigree on his CV but has never been able to recreate that anywhere else with the exception of Istanbul. I don't think he became a bad manager as soon as he left Valencia. Rather than treat managers as demi-gods and leaders who will lead us to the promised land with cool soundbites about how the liverpoolway influenced them; we need to make sure that there is a system in place for the managers to succeed. If we are to bring in a manager like Klopp we need to understand what made him a success at Dortmund and provide him with the same set of circumstances here. Not an easy task as most managers are control freaks who want to control things which they are not good at either.

Given the rate we do transfers I am not necessarily sure if Klopp will have the necessary tools to succeed here. There is only so much you can do if you lose your main player and your options are Balotelli or Eto'o.

 

[King Binny]

While "Klopp was able to rely on an outstanding DOF and transfer system" (which Klopp has played a key role in), has Rodgers not been part of "our transfer system" which "we should focus on fixing"?

Not saying we should chop Rodgers and bring in Klopp now that he's available but the whole scouting/transfer system and DOF thing seemed a bit ambiguous in terms of comparison to me.

 

[Hansern]

Tuchel confirmed as the new BVB manager

 

[Holle]

I'd love him to manage us.

 

[6TimesaRed]

I'd love him to manage us.

Yep..

We need a winning mentality and a manager that can attract the right players.

Time for change I think..

Since Benitez left we have lost world class player upon world's class player and we have never really attracted players of the same elk..

I'm sick of players with Potential Signings.. We need players for the here and now..

Not one of our summer signings (maybe Can) impressed today.. thats 100 million wasted on shite against a side the spends peanuts on players

 

[Fabio]

... Yeeeeeah I'd quite like him

 

[Rafiagra]

Benitez was able to identify world class players. Rodgers hasn't had one. Closest is Coutinho.

 

[6TimesaRed]

Benitez was able to identify world class players. Rodgers hasn't had one. Closest is Coutinho.

For all his faults Rafa had... that is right on the money..

 

[gene hughes]

Since Benitez left we have lost world class player upon world's class player and we have never really attracted players of the same elk..

They're too deer, we can't afford them.