Mark Clattenburg: "We favoured the Mancs"

[LeTallecWiz]

In trying to rip Liverpool, he just admits what everyone knew ... crooks.

[article]Klopp was correct when he said United have won more penalties in two years than Liverpool have in his five and a half at Anfield. He was smart, because his comments could not get him into trouble with the authorities.[/article]
[article]But if he was highlighting the ease with which some United players go down in the penalty area then, yes, I believe he was making a valid point. Even if it does ignore similar suspicions about some of his stars.

I have watched United closely this season and analysed each of their 11 penalty awards.
There are as many as five where I believe contact was invited or even initiated by the United player.[/article]
[article]He is clearly getting edgy, though, because not since Fergie have we seen such a blatant attempt to influence a referee ahead of a big game. Klopp wasn't doing this last season when Liverpool were winning every week.

He does not like losing, he never has. He gets prickly. But he is wrong to suggest there is an aura around United that sees them given favourable decisions. There used to be when Fergie was there, but that has eased massively since he left.

I am the only referee to give three penalties to the opposition at Old Trafford, and that was for Liverpool, of all teams, in 2014.

But David Moyes was manager — I'm not sure that would have happened when Fergie was there![/article]

 

[Aidan O' Neill]

Wow. That's some last line

 

[gkmacca]

It's scandalous, really.

 

[Woland]

It really fucking is

 

[SummerOnions]

Jesus that's some admission

 

[Mystic]

 

[dantes]

Next time, just leave the title simply as 'Mark Clattenburg' so that we can have the brief moment of hope and excitement before opening it up. We deserve that much at least.

 

[Fabio]

“He is wrong to suggest there is an aura around United that sees them given favourable decisions. There used to be when Fergie was there, but that has eased massively since he left.”

 

[Fabio]

Is the fucking line that's the most damning

 

[Modo]

If I remember it correctly Clattenburg was pretty nice to us. I seem to remember Gerrard getting some favorable decisions.

 

[gkmacca]

'...So that's a hair transplant, another couple of tats and a holiday in Dubai. Deal or no deal?'

 

[Jack D Rips]

Surely there has to be some comment from the referees society on this outrageous statement.

 

[Hansern]

Fucking hell, that some line.

 

[rurikbird]

Related:

 

[Red Astaire]

Personally - I don't see what the big deal is. Come on.... It's hardly earth shattering news. However years from now someone (in some book or other) is going to come out and talk about the scalp job Pickford and Richardson did on us earlier this season. All by design. Which ... Let's be honest is a complete no-brainer.

 

[Brizzle]

There is A LOT of press this week about United getting penalties and their relationship with refs. Therefore it would only be right if they got multiple dubious VAR awarded penos on Sunday. Maybe even one given by the ref, proven not to be by VAR but not overturned just for completeness.

The good news is we'll score 4 at the other end.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Only confirming what we have all known for 25 years

 

[gkmacca]

It's scandalous that it went on and people knew about it, and it's scandalous that it's been noted again now and there's zero uproar about it.

When some up-and-coming young player has someone trawl through his past tweets and they find one from when he was about 13 saying something politically incorrect, he's hauled across the coals by the FA. When someone is 'caught' on social media calling an old mate some phrase that the FA cannot be seen to condone, in goes their snout and they act like they've just uncovered an embezzlement scam. Every pettifogging complaint gets the FA pumped full of vainglorious indignation these days, but the widespread and long-running intimidation of, and possible corruption of, their own referees? Nope. What was that again? Can't hear you...


Remember these incidents from Ginsoak's 'golden era'? -


When referee Jeff Winter handed Roy Keane a red card, he wasn’t assigned a United game for the following two years, following a judgement from his Lord Justice Fergie. Winter later noted that the Football Association – run, partly, by board member and United Chief Executive under Fergie, David Gill – “is reticent to give Manchester United games to referees that Ferguson has criticised in the past”.

Oh, and let’s look at Alan Wiley. Fergie lambasted Wiley for apparently being “fat and unfit” after his team could only draw with Sunderland. Wiley “agreed” to retire at the end of the season. Coincidence?

And then Mark Clattenburg oversaw the 6-1 hammering at Old Trafford that United received from Manchester City at the beginning of the 2011-12 season. Fergie criticised Clattenburg. Clattenburg didn’t oversee a United game for the rest of the season.

Then there's 'Fergie Time' - the strangely institutionalised manipulation of referees so that they basically don't blow the whistle until United score. And there's the lesser-known 'Fergie Time,' that saw him cut the time short if United were hanging on. He actually admitted, after retiring, to this kind of intimidation. There was a fourth official [against Swansea] who showed the board and it said eight minutes," Sir Alex told reporters. "I said, 'Think again'. That's been a part of it - the pressure you try and put on referees'.

Then there were the Christmas gifts to refs and their families, the help he gave their kids, the other 'favours' he granted them. All ignored.

And here's good old useful idiot Clattenberg again:

Clattenburg spoke back in May 2020 about his days in the Premier League, and particularly spoke about just how fearsome Sir Alex Ferguson was towards referees.

"The first time I went to Old Trafford I was probably on his good side because I was on the halfway line when [Pedro] Mendes hit that wonderful shot and Roy Carroll scooped it back," Clattenburg said. "Looking back at Sir Alex he was such a great character. Did he put pressure on referees? I think he did'.


Other managers got fined and banned for the most minor and isolated stuff. Ferguson was left to get away with murder. It isn't something to dismiss as 'just one of those things'. It's a genuine disgrace.

 

[ibromurph]

It's scandalous that it went on and people knew about it, and it's scandalous that it's been noted again now and there's zero uproar about it.

When some up-and-coming young player has someone trawl through his past tweets and they find one from when he was about 13 saying something politically incorrect, he's hauled across the coals by the FA. When someone is 'caught' on social media calling an old mate some phrase that the FA cannot be seen to condone, in goes their snout and they act like they've just uncovered an embezzlement scam. Every pettifogging complaint gets the FA pumped full of vainglorious indignation these days, but the widespread and long-running intimidation of, and possible corruption of, their own referees? Nope. What was that again? Can't hear you...


Remember these incidents from Ginsoak's 'golden era'? -


When referee Jeff Winter handed Roy Keane a red card, he wasn’t assigned a United game for the following two years, following a judgement from his Lord Justice Fergie. Winter later noted that the Football Association – run, partly, by board member and United Chief Executive under Fergie, David Gill – “is reticent to give Manchester United games to referees that Ferguson has criticised in the past”.

Oh, and let’s look at Alan Wiley. Fergie lambasted Wiley for apparently being “fat and unfit” after his team could only draw with Sunderland. Wiley “agreed” to retire at the end of the season. Coincidence?

And then Mark Clattenburg oversaw the 6-1 hammering at Old Trafford that United received from Manchester City at the beginning of the 2011-12 season. Fergie criticised Clattenburg. Clattenburg didn’t oversee a United game for the rest of the season.

Then there's 'Fergie Time' - the strangely institutionalised manipulation of referees so that they basically don't blow the whistle until United score. And there's the lesser-known 'Fergie Time,' that saw him cut the time short if United were hanging on. He actually admitted, after retiring, to this kind of intimidation. There was a fourth official [against Swansea] who showed the board and it said eight minutes," Sir Alex told reporters. "I said, 'Think again'. That's been a part of it - the pressure you try and put on referees'.

Then there were the Christmas gifts to refs and their families, the help he gave their kids, the other 'favours' he granted them. All ignored.

And here's good old useful idiot Clattenberg again:

Clattenburg spoke back in May 2020 about his days in the Premier League, and particularly spoke about just how fearsome Sir Alex Ferguson was towards referees.

"The first time I went to Old Trafford I was probably on his good side because I was on the halfway line when [Pedro] Mendes hit that wonderful shot and Roy Carroll scooped it back," Clattenburg said. "Looking back at Sir Alex he was such a great character. Did he put pressure on referees? I think he did'.


Other managers got fined and banned for the most minor and isolated stuff. Ferguson was left to get away with murder. It isn't something to dismiss as 'just one of those things'. It's a genuine disgrace.

"It AlL BaLaNcEs ItSeLf OuT ThOuGh aCrOsS tHe SeAsOn"

.. we were told.

If this were the Olympics, they'd have many of those titles stripped. Especially the ones they won by a few points.

 

[mark1975]

Remember these incidents from Ginsoak's 'golden era'? -


When referee Jeff Winter handed Roy Keane a red card, he wasn’t assigned a United game for the following two years, following a judgement from his Lord Justice Fergie. Winter later noted that the Football Association – run, partly, by board member and United Chief Executive under Fergie, David Gill – “is reticent to give Manchester United games to referees that Ferguson has criticised in the past”.

I'd forgot about Winter, he was a decent ref.

 

[MomoWASright]

I'd forgot about Winter, he was a decent ref.

He was a pompous fat cunt with a goatee.

 

[Peatcheo]

He is chatting shit about the aura no longer being there, they get comfortably more decisions than anyone else, and referees are desperate to give then pens.

It is dodgy as fuck.

 

[mark1975]

He is chatting shit about the aura no longer being there, they get comfortably more decisions than anyone else, and referees are desperate to give then pens.

It is dodgy as fuck.

They still get Fergie time too.

 

[dantes]

He is chatting shit about the aura no longer being there, they get comfortably more decisions than anyone else, and referees are desperate to give then pens.

It is dodgy as fuck.

It's in the financial interests of the FA, Sky, BT, Amazon and international broadcasters to keep the league interesting until the last possible game. As it "happens" to turn out, it looks like it will be, and audience numbers will be at their maximum, which is "lucky" for them.

 

[dantes]

The two most popular teams in England, competing for the title in the season where their global appeal to audiences are crucial to the league making any sort of monies. Despite us having one of the best sides we've ever had, and them having a totally shit team. Not to mention the respective managers. What are the odds? Seems legit.

 

[MomoWASright]

It's in the financial interests of the FA, Sky, BT, Amazon and international broadcasters to keep the league interesting until the last possible game. As it "happens" to turn out, it looks like it will be, and audience numbers will be at their maximum, which is "lucky" for them.

The two most popular teams in England, competing for the title in the season where their global appeal to audiences are crucial to the league making any sort of monies. Despite us having one of the best sides we've ever had, and them having a totally shit team. Not to mention the respective managers. What are the odds? Seems legit.

Am I on the fume?

 

[Peatcheo]

They still get Fergie time too.

Literally restarted a finished game to give them a penalty. It was a pen to be fair but that is completely unheard of, and of course it was to benefit them .

 

[Red Astaire]

There is A LOT of press this week about United getting penalties and their relationship with refs. Therefore it would only be right if they got multiple dubious VAR awarded penos on Sunday. Maybe even one given by the ref, proven not to be by VAR but not overturned just for completeness.

The good news is we'll score 4 at the other end.

You are quite right my vertically endowed friend. Quell surprise: It's the Scummers Vs The Redmen weekend.

It's so fucking obvious this sort of thing comes out right at this particular moment. It's almost depressing how banal and vomit-inducingly annoying it all is. When this sort of thing happens it's time to play and fill your boots - Let's get the bets in. I'll give 3 possible outcomes from this weekends game and let's see if any come in.

First up - Let's study the form.

1) In the middle of a patchy spell. Utd in a purple patch - Top of the league no less. 2nd Vs 1st (who'd have thunk it!) . However it's at Anfield. I can't recall the last time they won at ours (you can almost hear Martin Tyler jizzing into his mic as he points out exactly when it was and gleefully adding into the equation the unbeaten at home LFC have enjoyed). Anyone remember the game in 1997? That's the last time we were toe to toe (apparently) That will get mentioned. Lots.

2) Dumb ass ref retrospect comments adding spice to the mix. A perfect seasoning for the pundits to bukkake over while they eat that cracker.

3) Injuries a plenty. Big ones too. Fodder for the excuse mob.

Nope make no mistake. This will be 1-2 to Utd. Possibly even 3-1 with a late (contentious goal to them) Someone will get either injured (them) A red card (us) - Some sort of 'tonic' to ease the bruise and swelling (it won't - It will just make it worse)

Sorry lads there is my crystal ball prediction. Utd to win. LFC to get a red card some kind of injury to one of theirs. It looks bad at first but he'll be playing again a week later.

Time to cash in.

 

[Dreambeliever]

The two most popular teams in England, competing for the title in the season where their global appeal to audiences are crucial to the league making any sort of monies. Despite us having one of the best sides we've ever had, and them having a totally shit team. Not to mention the respective managers. What are the odds? Seems legit.

What a load of hoop. Go join Blue Moon.

 

[the count]

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