Sturridge And Klopp

[doctor_mac]

Daniel Sturridge hung out to dry by Jurgen Klopp, says Sunday Supplement panel

By Andrew Dickson

Last Updated: 31/01/16 12:04pm

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John Cross and John Richardson engaged in a heated debate over who was to blame for Daniel Sturridge's situation at Liverpool
Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp has hung Daniel Sturridge out to dry and created an unworkable dynamic between the two, according to journalist John Cross.
The Daily Mirror's Chief Football Writer admits he has sympathy for the England international, who is currently sidelined with a hamstring injury suffered last month against Newcastle.
Klopp insists Sturridge won't play for Liverpool again until he has 10 days of uninterrupted training, something he has so far been unable to complete.
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Cross believes the former Borussia Dortmund manager has been unfair on the striker, who has been plagued with a number of issues both this season and last, limiting him to just 16 starts for the Reds since the 2013/14 season.

Sturridge completed 90 minutes just six times in 2015 as he struggled with injuries
Speaking on the Sunday Supplement, he said: "You can see from everything Klopp says that he's losing patience with Sturridge and I think it's become an unworkable dynamic.
"He's hanging him out to dry. I think Klopp's been too harsh. If I was Daniel Sturridge right now, I would be thinking: 'Where am I now, because I can't see a future at Liverpool?'
"If he's injured, he's injured. When you have a serious injury, when you come back there are going to be knock-on effects.
"He's got a hamstring injury which is a knock-on effect of being out for so long. I have got some sympathy with the player."

Sturridge has started just four games for Liverpool this season - but has scored four goals
By contrast, Sunday Express journalist John Richardson was more critical of Sturridge and claims a decision has already been taken on whether he is in Klopp's plans for next season.
Asked what Liverpool do with Sturridge, Richardson said: "They sell him. He's not going to do it. It's up to Daniel Sturridge.
"We all know he's a top player but you talk to older players and they can't understand what's going on. He will not play through the pain barrier.
"I'm not knocking him because some people have a higher pain threshold. He obviously has a lower one but at times he should push himself.
"He's got a fantastic opportunity. He's got the European Championships to aim at in the summer. At the moment, he's not going to be there because he's not playing enough games.
"At times you have to play, not when you are injured, but when you have a few aches and pains. That's life as a footballer.

Klopp is planning for next season without Sturridge, according to journalist John Richardson
"He's not prepared to do that and I know from within the club - and Jurgen Klopp is absolutely frustrated with it - that he will not be in Klopp's plans next season. He can't trust him."
While Klopp appears to be losing patience, Cross thinks Roy Hodgson will be more forgiving when he considers his options for England's squad at Euro 2016.

John Cross believes Roy Hodgson will give Sturridge time to get himself fit for the European Championships
He added: "I think Roy Hodgson will make special cases for two players and they'll be Sturridge and (Jack) Wilshere.
"I think Sturridge is by far and away the most naturally talented centre forward and then I also think he'll give Wilshere time.
"I don't know how long he'll push it but for England's sake, they are the sort of players you need to give as much time as possible to."

 

[doctor_mac]

So there is clearly something going on here. Radio silence from Studge's twitter, no promises of imminent return. Klopp, uncharacteristically oblique when answering questions regarding Studge's rehabilitation. There have been plenty of rumours floating about that Klopp and Studge are at loggerheads. Do we write off Studge's Liverpool career?

 

[keniget]

I have already.

Now it's all looking pretty ominous.

 

[Modo]

I don't think Sturridge was too happy with Klopp basically calling him weak in the media and it's become worse ever since.
If Sturridge isn't picked for the Euro's he'll definitely leave.

But I support Klopp fully in this matter. Sturridge needs to prove his fitness. I think his ego has taken a hammering since Klopp took over.

 

[cloggypop]

John Cross is full of shite.

 

[mark1975]

I don't think Sturridge was too happy with Klopp basically calling him weak in the media and it's become worse ever since.
If Sturridge isn't picked for the Euro's he'll definitely leave.

But I support Klopp fully in this matter. Sturridge needs to prove his fitness. I think his ego has taken a hammering since Klopp took over.

Has Klopp handled it well? Rodgers would have drawn a different perspective had he handled Sturridge the same way, I don't think many people would have applauded him for taking the same route. We'd have never heard the end of it. I think Klopp handled it pretty badly initially, that's where all this unwanted speculation has stemmed from.

 

[Modo]

Has Klopp handled it well? Rodgers would have drawn a different perspective had he handled Sturridge the same way, I don't think many people would have applauded him for taking the same route. We'd have never heard the end of it. I think Klopp handled it pretty badly initially, that's where all this unwanted speculation has stemmed from.

The only thing he did wrong was mentioning it to the media.
I think that is what pissed Sturridge off.

 

[doctor_mac]

I absolutely agree Cloggy. Nevertheless, there does seem to be a problem between Klopp and Studge that is bubbling in the background. It has been alluded to by numerous people with LFC contacts, and we have repeatedly seen Klopp praising players working hard to come back from injury, or playing through pain (Hendo, Lallana, Flanno), which may or may not be understood as implicit reprimands to Studge. It seems a terrible waste of talent.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

If he cannot stay fit, then it's done anyways.

If he doesn't have the mental strength to work hard to get fit, or challenge himself (unless it's England), then it's finished.

Regardless, it is a terrible waste of what should have been a good career with us.

I don't think Klopp did anything wrong going after Studge this way bar opening it up to the media - Studge is on 150k a week, and he should be a leader on this team. He's our most gifted finisher, and I somehow hope that the 'silence' means they'll both swallow their pride and do what's best for Liverpool.

 

[Hansern]

John Cross is a hopeless cuntbag of a journo. I couldnt care less what he has to say or thinks about Studge or Klopp.

As for situation itself. Yeah, maybe Klopp shouldnt have informed the media. But if he doesnt there is even more speculation.
Every time Studge has come back he's gotten injured again soon after. I think this new mini pre season approach is the right one. We certainly have to try it.

As for Klopp and Studge. Maybe Klopp is surprised and frustrated at what seems like a lack of passion and fight from a player that can be World class but just dont have the drive.
It might get Studge going for all we know.

I dont think we've ruled out Studge from our plans yet either. Klopp said as much a few weeks ago.

 

[Woland]

Loads of morons I speak to believe this text that's been going round saying Sturridge's religious beliefs are preventing him from returning.

Why can't our shit players get these injuries?

 

[gkmacca]

It's John Cross. The agents' friend. The London clubs' favoured tapper-upper.

 

[doctor_mac]

It's John Cross. The agents' friend. The London clubs' favoured tapper-upper.

Greasing the wheels for a Studge transfer Macca?

 

[doctor_mac]

John Cross is a hopeless cuntbag of a journo. I couldnt care less what he has to say or thinks about Studge or Klopp.

As for situation itself. Yeah, maybe Klopp shouldnt have informed the media. But if he doesnt there is even more speculation.
Every time Studge has come back he's gotten injured again soon after. I think this new mini pre season approach is the right one. We certainly have to try it.

As for Klopp and Studge. Maybe Klopp is surprised and frustrated at what seems like a lack of passion and fight from a player that can be World class but just dont have the drive.
It might get Studge going for all we know.

I dont think we've ruled out Studge from our plans yet either. Klopp said as much a few weeks ago.

There's a right few ex Liverpool players who have been suggesting there is more to it. Souness and Didi are among others who have hinted that there is a mysterious issue with Studge, that does appear to be a lack of fortitude on the player's part in some shape or form.

 

[gkmacca]

John Cross is a hopeless cuntbag of a journo. I couldnt care less what he has to say or thinks about Studge or Klopp.

As for situation itself. Yeah, maybe Klopp shouldnt have informed the media. But if he doesnt there is even more speculation.
Every time Studge has come back he's gotten injured again soon after. I think this new mini pre season approach is the right one. We certainly have to try it.

As for Klopp and Studge. Maybe Klopp is surprised and frustrated at what seems like a lack of passion and fight from a player that can be World class but just dont have the drive.
It might get Studge going for all we know.

I dont think we've ruled out Studge from our plans yet either. Klopp said as much a few weeks ago.

Klopp hasn't 'informed' the media. It's like the Rodgers nonsense about ruling out the manc job. Do people on here wear their media savviness like a pork pie hat they can take off every time it suits their purposes? Sturridge's injury problems were asked about non-stop last season as well. Rodgers had to respond. You can't say 'no comment' all the time without adding to the mystery. Klopp is now asked about it all the time. He's simply saying that, probably for the first time since Sturridge was a kid, the club is actually resisting playing him again when there's still a niggle. Cross, the odious little slimeball, was the only one of that programme that was critical of Klopp's handling of the matter. You could see the others were wondering what Cross was up to.

 

[gkmacca]

There's a right few ex Liverpool players who have been suggesting there is more to it. Souness and Didi are among others who have hinted that there is a mysterious issue with Studge, that does appear to be a lack of fortitude on the player's part in some shape or form.

Souness is old school and cannot fathom how anyone doesn't just drink a pint of champagne and then dominate a game. Didi's grasp of fitness issues is about as flimsy as a strangulation attempt by a butterfly.

 

[davud graham]

If Sturridge is pissed off with what Klopp said then he should be trying to prove the manager wrong. Either he isn't doing that or he can't train for a few days on the run without getting injured. Either way he's no use to us.
If he can play half the games in a season then he's worth keeping but sadly this seems beyond him.

 

[gkmacca]

Greasing the wheels for a Studge transfer Macca?

Certainly for a speculative bid at a risible knock-down price in the summer.

 

[Hansern]

Klopp hasn't 'informed' the media. It's like the Rodgers nonsense about ruling out the manc job. Do people on here wear their media savviness like a pork pie hat they can take off every time it suits their purposes? Sturridge's injury problems were asked about non-stop last season as well. Rodgers had to respond. You can't say 'no comment' all the time without adding to the mystery. Klopp is now asked about it all the time. He's simply saying that, probably for the first time since Sturridge was a kid, the club is actually resisting playing him again when there's still a niggle. Cross, the odious little slimeball, was the only one of that programme that was critical of Klopp's handling of the matter. You could see the others were wondering what Cross was up to.

Yeah, I was actually talking about the constant questions he gets. Informed was not the right word in all honesty.

 

[Woland]

How come people keep suggesting we sell him? Who would buy him?

I had a mate who's dad was an utter Clarkson who crammed his drive full of utterly broken and unfixable bits of Aston Martins, he convinced himself that one day he'd have one that worked. Maybe he'd be interested.

 

[doctor_mac]

How come people keep suggesting we sell him? Who would buy him?

I had a mate who's dad was an utter Clarkson who crammed his drive full of utterly broken and unfixable bits of Aston Martins, he convinced himself that one day he'd have one that worked. Maybe he'd be interested.

Yeah, but lets say there was an Aston Martin in this guy's drive, and the guy knew it was a cracking car and should be working perfectly, but he just couldn't get it started. Some other dude might think that guy was just a fucking eejit, someone who wouldn't know a spark-plug from a butt-plug. He'd be able to get that sexy car running perfectly in no time. That guy would buy the car...

 

[Modo]

If Sturridge is pissed off with what Klopp said then he should be trying to prove the manager wrong. Either he isn't doing that or he can't train for a few days on the run without getting injured. Either way he's no use to us.
If he can play half the games in a season then he's worth keeping but sadly this seems beyond him.

Exactly, but what I'm getting from Klopp is that Sturridge wants to play whenever he deems himself as being "fit".
Klopp fell for that once maybe even twice but got burned afterwards, meaning that Sturridge got injured again.

So like I said, Klopp is right in not reintroducing Sturridge until he can prove himself during a prolonged time in training.

 

[manwithnoname]

I've lost track now. What's this week's consensus on Klopp's treatment and comments about Sturridge?

A) he's annoyed that Sturridge seems incapable of managing his pain and needs to understand when he can play with pain, like many players do, rather than be a big wuss with a low pain threshold.

B) he's annoyed that Sturridge claims he is fit, and then breaks down again when he plays, he needs to understand when he's really fit and Klopp and the medical staff will decide that, not Sturridge

C) he's got no idea when he's going to be fit, and both John Cross and John Richardson are cunts who have an ulterior motive for what they say, and they're both totally wrong, despite saying different things, as are all of the other ex-players, pundits and journalists who have all voiced myriad opinions about the situation, which is actually very simple and clear and there's no problem anywhere.

D) sturridge is now really annoyed with everything Klopp has said, and disagrees with everything he says, despite it being contradictory, and Klopp doesn't trust him either, so it's inevitable that he will leave

All help appreciated

 

[cloggypop]

Loads of morons I speak to believe this text that's been going round saying Sturridge's religious beliefs are preventing him from returning.

Why can't our shit players get these injuries?

The one with Roy Evans as the source? The one that Roy Evans' son tweeted was a load of bollocks?

 

[doctor_mac]

I've lost track now. What's this week's consensus on Klopp's treatment and comments about Sturridge?

A) he's annoyed that Sturridge seems incapable of managing his pain and needs to understand when he can play with pain, like many players do, rather than be a big wuss with a low pain threshold.

B) he's annoyed that Sturridge claims he is fit, and then breaks down again when he plays, he needs to understand when he's really fit and Klopp and the medical staff will decide that, not Sturridge

C) he's got no idea when he's going to be fit, and both John Cross and John Richardson are cunts who have an ulterior motive for what they say, and they're both totally wrong, despite saying different things, as are all of the other ex-players, pundits and journalists who have all voiced myriad opinions about the situation, which is actually very simple and clear and there's no problem anywhere.

D) sturridge is now really annoyed with everything Klopp has said, and disagrees with everything he says, despite it being contradictory, and Klopp doesn't trust him either, so it's inevitable that he will leave

All help appreciated

All of the above simultaneously I think.

 

[Woland]

The one with Roy Evans as the source? The one that Roy Evans' son tweeted was a load of bollocks?

I dunno the source. I read like half of it and laughed, but I heard people repeating it in the pub by the game as if there was something in it, and the dude building my space station was all over it too.

 

[manwithnoname]

All of the above simultaneously I think.

I forgot to add in that amazing 'God told me not to play' thing

 

[gkmacca]

I've lost track now. What's this week's consensus on Klopp's treatment and comments about Sturridge?

A) he's annoyed that Sturridge seems incapable of managing his pain and needs to understand when he can play with pain, like many players do, rather than be a big wuss with a low pain threshold.

B) he's annoyed that Sturridge claims he is fit, and then breaks down again when he plays, he needs to understand when he's really fit and Klopp and the medical staff will decide that, not Sturridge

C) he's got no idea when he's going to be fit, and both John Cross and John Richardson are cunts who have an ulterior motive for what they say, and they're both totally wrong, despite saying different things, as are all of the other ex-players, pundits and journalists who have all voiced myriad opinions about the situation, which is actually very simple and clear and there's no problem anywhere.

D) sturridge is now really annoyed with everything Klopp has said, and disagrees with everything he says, despite it being contradictory, and Klopp doesn't trust him either, so it's inevitable that he will leave

All help appreciated

Time+experience with added media contrariness.

 

[Fabio]

What's this religious bollocks? Was there a rumour?

 

[gkmacca]

In the same show, by the way, John Cross was complaining that hacks from The S*n don't get enough journalism awards. He's all heart.