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Benteke - BOOOOOO the puns

Discussion in 'The Vault' started by mxtravs, May 23, 2015.

  1. mxtravs

    mxtravs SCM Follower Member

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    Seems like we might make a play for Benteke. Was wondering what people thought as to how he would fit in at Liverpool.

    Seems like there aren't a lot of quality strikers available this summer. My first choice would be lacazette, but I dont think we have a chance in hell. I would also consider Aubemeyang but I dont know if he would be lethal enoughl in front of goal - probably a bit more suited to our style of play though.

    I think Benteke might be the best we can get. He's got a lot of positives going for him. He's young, scores loads of goals, can lead the line and bully defenders, scores with his head (which we are shit at), and is mobile and strong enough to pressure high up the pitch.

    But unfortunately I think he isn't the type of player that can stretch defenses like Sturridge or Suarez. High pressure, swift counter attack and pacey strikers led to our success. I do think Benteke and Sturridge could wreak havoc on defenses. Overall, I think there are others that would be better, but for 25-28 million I would be happy with him. We really need someone lethal up top and he might be the best available option that would be willing to come.
     
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    Skullflower Part of the Furniture Member

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    I'm not into it.
     
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    leftpeg Well-Known Member

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    Of the realistic options, I'd take Benteke in a heartbeat.
     
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    hmmmmm1 Well-Known Member

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    Berahino would suit our style more
     
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    Skullflower Part of the Furniture Member

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    Here 'we go again'
     
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    Skullflower Part of the Furniture Member

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    His agent wouldnt
     
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    leftpeg Well-Known Member

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    Which is?
     
  8. Dreambeliever

    Dreambeliever Looking on the brightside Member

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    Massive no thanks. He would be a disaster
     
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    StevieM SCM's resident Beer Nazi, Wine Snob & Comic Geek Honorary Member

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    I think this would be a mistake.

    A very expensive one.
     
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    Skullflower Part of the Furniture Member

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    Imagine the mancs signing beneke, ings and Milner.
     
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    Okay, done that. Now what?
     
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    leftpeg Well-Known Member

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    Expand please dreamy.
     
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    StevieM SCM's resident Beer Nazi, Wine Snob & Comic Geek Honorary Member

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    Now try imagining who we'll sign if we have to go our second choices????

    *shudders*
     
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    It's a fair point as to what our style of play really is. I'm not sure we have a very coherent one.

    Anyway, any style of play we might have doesn't really seems ideal for Benteke if he's going to play with Sturridge, as he hopefully would do. If we were going for a target man, he'd be fine, depending on price. But I don't think Sturridge fits that kind of system.

    IMO we should go for a proper 433 with 3 good goalscoring attackers up front, not a striker and two wingers. If we've got Sturridge, Ings, Origi and Ibe who can all operate in that system reasonably well, I'd say that leaves us needing another pacy striker and a more skillful Depay-like player.

    Aubameyang or Lacazette would be ideal for the striker role. Possibly Son at Leverkusen, too.
     
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    He's scored more than a goal every other game in England, has two good feet and he's good in the air.  He's doesn't miss many games through injury.  I'd say he's better than our other realistic targets and apart from Sturridge he is miles better than the other useless fuckers we have in that department.  He'd help Origi settle and I think he could form a decent partnership with Sturridge (when he's fit!) and give the walking popadom a kick up the arse when he isn't.
     
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    Dreambeliever Looking on the brightside Member

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    He's a massive confidence player, goes through big droughts when his confidence is down. We need a cocky arrogant front man who thrives on the pressure of playing for Liverpool like Suarez did and Torres before him. I remember falling in love with Suarez when he dicked 3 Utd defenders to hand Kuyt a tap in on the way to hat trick and I remember Torres blasting past the Chelsea defence to score at Anfield in one of his first games. Both times I thought, fuck ya we finally have a striker who is confident enough to say fuck you to the most intimidating teams in the biggest games.
    Aside from that I don't think Bentekers is mobile enough for our style of football at all. He's a big target man up top and we got rid of Carroll for possessing exactly that quality.
    If we get him he'll be a massive whooping flop.
     
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    leftpeg Well-Known Member

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    But we're not going to be in the market for a Suarez or a Torres this summer.  We either just bandy about names of European strikers or we discuss the merits of realistic targets. The comparison with Carroll is also misplaced, he's far better and more mobile than that.
     
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    Dreambeliever Looking on the brightside Member

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    Who was Suarez before we got him? Who was Remy before he came to England. Who was Coutinho? You don't have to be a star you just have to have that star quality and suit our style.
    You don't have to sign a 30m striker.
    Of course he's better than Carroll but he still is primarily a big target man who loves the long ball. It's not us
     
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    We're not set up with players good at putting crosses in to the box - all our wide attackers cut inside and we use full backs for width - and none are great at crossing.

    How's he going to fit in with Sturridge - that will be as much about his ability to create space for Sturridge to exploit, than anything else.

    I'm not sure how fast he is or what his movement is like - but if he's not fast, intelligent and hard working - it's a problem.

    To me this is us looking at a striker's record for another club, playing differently to us and expecting to replicate that record under different conditions.

    That's usually a recipe for disaster.
     
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    Suarez had already scored 80 odd goals in 110 games for Ajax when he joined us. He was a world class striker when he came in...we're not going to bring a world class striker in this time. And as for Benteke not being 'us'...what has 'us' brought this season?   The target men can only play in long ball teams thing is a myth. Drogba being an example.
     

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