[quote author=ILD link=topic=22396.msg537854#msg537854 date=1207735243] Might to Birmingham and get train up. Flight is only â‚¬40 return. Is it far? Heard it's only about a 90 minute train drive. A bag of cans would make that journey fly. [/quote] It's about 100 miles. So no, not too far on the train. I have never got the train from Brum to Liverpool, but I would guess it's about an hour and half like you said. Depending on how many times it stops. If you do choose to do this let me know and I will try and sort you some cheap train tickets.