Nah - that would be soft.
Everton v Liverpool - Match Thread
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Alisson out for a while, Virgil out for a while... 5 points dropped already. We're doomed.
O yeah. I wasn't doubting you, but why bother checking the offside then - there hadn't been a goal, and if they weren't checking the foul they can't have been checking it to see if there should be a penalty
Thiago played on and looked okay. Now Klopp says he might be injured. Sturridge would be forgiven for looking at Alisson and Thiago and wondering if they know what real pain is. Who knows.
I'm so angry with Everton. This happens time and time again. They almost wrecked Origi's career - he was flying until they crocked him. Over and over again - the fact it's a derby is irrelevant, no team should get so much licence to play in that cynical and reckless way. There's never any uproar. They'd have to practically kill one of our players to get any kind of censure. It was a disgraceful performance from them today, really awful, and yet they probably won't get more than the odd 'tut-tut' in the papers tomorrow. Their fans are fucking psychos and their players are just thugs.
I'm so angry with Everton. This happens time and time again. They almost wrecked Origi's career - he was flying until they crocked him. Over and over again - the fact it's a derby is irrelevant, no team should get so much licence to play in that cynical and reckless way. There's never any uproar. They'd have to practically kill one of our players to get any kind of censure. It was a disgraceful performance from them today, really awful, and yet they probably won't get more than the odd 'tut-tut' in the papers tomorrow. Their fans are fucking psychos and their players are just thugs.
I think that's it.. they were checking the offside to see if there was a penalty.
When it was offside their decision tree ended there. Rather than looking for is it a red card and NOT a penalty.
Thick fucks.. should never be near VAR again.
Aye , var follows some fucking retarded progressive system , it's offside , fine but it's still a red for Pickford.
Game changer that , being a man and 2 up in the Derby in such a short amount of time
We were robbed today . The blue shite were full of theatrics , cheating and cunty challenges and we were denied by some terrible officiating
We had a 2v1 overload on the left late in the game and referree pulled it back for a freekick as though there was no advantage to us , the mane yellow and several other baffling decisions along with the var offside madness, how can a referees judgement be overruled with a goal and offside decision but not with a penalty decision etc etc
I'd prefer if we went back to pre var football , k thx
Game changer that , being a man and 2 up in the Derby in such a short amount of time
We were robbed today . The blue shite were full of theatrics , cheating and cunty challenges and we were denied by some terrible officiating
We had a 2v1 overload on the left late in the game and referree pulled it back for a freekick as though there was no advantage to us , the mane yellow and several other baffling decisions along with the var offside madness, how can a referees judgement be overruled with a goal and offside decision but not with a penalty decision etc etc
I'd prefer if we went back to pre var football , k thx
Yes. Like the cunt he is.
I know, some can walk off and others don't. The main issue is his foot is planted and force is going backwards, possibly with some rotation. I'll.be amazed if he hasn't done something.
If anything there should be a rule applied that if you do that you get a yellow card yourself.
A cunts yellow it can be called
The whole point of offside is to negate any advantage gained by the attacker. Mane actually has his back to goal - no-one in their right mind would decide he is gaining an advantage there.
What is frustrating is that the VAR management have had months (Covid closure) to sort this out and implement rules that everyone can understand and accept.
1. Hands & Arms can't be considered offside.
2. The frame rate MUST be considered. Mane could be on-side one frame earlier.
3. Is the attacking player gaining an unfair advantage
4. In a tight decision advantage should be given to the attacking player, as used to be stated in their offside rules (not sure if it's still there, it was a few seasons ago).
Four simple considerations that almost everyone could accept. Yes #3 & #4 are a little subjective but then so are many other decisions in football. As has been said, this adherence to the mm is contrary to the spirit of the game.
John Barnes got it right, though. VAR didn't get anything wrong. It just showed something. The people who used it aren't supposed to use it at all except if they think a 'clear and obvious' error has been made. There wasn't a clear and obvious error. It was a goal. You may as well shelve the linesman's flag because the linesman put it up when it shouldn't have gone up. It's the boneheads who are in charge of VAR who need changing.
The ref missed or ignored Pickford's challenge. THAT is when VAR should come in. And it wasn't used. It's just appalling mismanagement.
I can understand and agree completely when there is a furore concerning mm or part of the body. I can't understand it when people doubt a computer drawn line calling it subjective
Anyone have a pic of Mane's position at the time of Thiago's pass ?
I can understand and agree completely when there is a furore concerning mm or part of the body. I can't understand it when people doubt a computer drawn line calling it subjective
Anyone have a pic of Mane's position at the time of Thiago's pass ?
He also was telling the ref to go look at the VAR monitor when the red card was shown - I thought that was meant to be an automatic yellow
It's about time they just went full NFL.
Any VAR decision. The ref goes too to look at the monitor "Under the hood".
None of this hold the finger to the ear bollocks.
Have full transparency and the ref being able to justify the decision rather than shrug their slopey shoulders.
Any VAR decision. The ref goes too to look at the monitor "Under the hood".
None of this hold the finger to the ear bollocks.
Have full transparency and the ref being able to justify the decision rather than shrug their slopey shoulders.
I think this sums up VAR.
[article]This perhaps is the biggest issue with VAR: it pedantically adjudicates on issues all but imperceptible to the human eye and yet ignores offences as blatant as Pickford’s. It’s like a parking attendant dishing out a ticket for staying two minutes too long or being an inch outside the space while ignoring the thief putting a crowbar through the windscreen.
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[article]This perhaps is the biggest issue with VAR: it pedantically adjudicates on issues all but imperceptible to the human eye and yet ignores offences as blatant as Pickford’s. It’s like a parking attendant dishing out a ticket for staying two minutes too long or being an inch outside the space while ignoring the thief putting a crowbar through the windscreen.
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Just out of interest. Can Pickford be given a retrospective red? He wasn't even carded right?
Not that I care - To honest it's probably better that he keeps playing for them.
I'm fucking apocalyptic right now. Poor VVD. As someone said earlier the league will likely be shut down again soon enough so he can rest up properly. What a cunt Pickford is though.
Not that I care - To honest it's probably better that he keeps playing for them.
I'm fucking apocalyptic right now. Poor VVD. As someone said earlier the league will likely be shut down again soon enough so he can rest up properly. What a cunt Pickford is though.
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