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Everything that is wrong with FIFA...

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Hansern

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is summed up with the Matip issue, and then van Basten as technical director with these "new ideas".
He was a great player in his day but sounds like he should stay away from trying to influence the game of football in any way.

Fifa technical director Marco van Basten suggests scrapping offside as part of his radical plans for football

The former Milan and Netherlands great is also convinced that today's footballers play too much football and in favour of a seasonal limit on matches
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Van Basten believes it would be 'very interesting' to watch a game with no offside rule Getty
Restricting players to 60 games a year. Replacing penalty shootouts with eight-second run-ups. Introducing orange cards and sending players to sinbins for 10 minutes.
Former Milan and Netherlands forward Marco van Basten is using his role as technical director at Fifa to propose a series of changes to soccer to stir a debate.

Rather than using his job to meddle, Van Basten highlights the need to preserve soccer as the world's most popular sport.


“I have spoken to a lot of coaches and players,” Van Basten said. “We have to promote quality instead of quantity. We are playing too much football now. We have to defend players because they have to play so much and are not fresh or fit anymore.
“That's bad for the quality of the game. Even in June when the big tournaments are played players cannot perform to their maximum because now if players are really successful they can play up to 75 official games in the year. I think that's a bit too much and maybe they should stop at 55 or 60.”
Although Fifa will expand the World Cup from 32 to 48 teams from 2026, that won't burden players with any additional games. Instead, clubs sides would have to explore reducing the number of fixtures, potentially by reducing the number of lucrative friendly games played on tours.
“That's all for money but we have to think about football and not money,” said Van Basten, who was hired by Fifa in September. “For a lot of clubs that's not easy. But there is enough money in football. (Cristiano) Ronaldo and (Lionel) Messi are earning so much money. If they are earning a little bit less but performing better that's good for football.”
Asked about countries like England or France no longer playing two cup competitions alongside their league fixtures, Van Basten said: “In my opinion that should be an interesting discussion.”
Van Basten knows some of radical changes he proposes could make traditionalists uneasy. But the 1992 Fifa World Player of the Year wants to ensure the global game has a say on its future.
“We should not just let the game be organised by those with the money,” he said from Fifa HQ in Zurich. “The big clubs like Paris Saint-Germain, Manchester City and Real Madrid who have everything. In football you need opponents, competition because if you are alone with two or three clubs controlling everything you don't have any competition.”
I think it can be very interesting watching a game without offside. Football now is already looking a lot like handball with nine or ten defenders in front of the goal.​

Rather than burdening players with an additional 30 minutes of action when cup games are level after 90 minutes, Van Basten is suggesting going straight to penalty shoot-outs, which could also be radically altered.
“Maybe the player should start 25 metres from goal and then you can dribble the goalkeeper or shoot early,” he said. “But you have to make a goal within eight seconds. It's more skill and less luck. It's maybe a bit more spectacular. It's more football but it's still nervous for the player.”
Scrapping the offside rule could make soccer more visually appealing, Van Basten advises. “I think it can be very interesting watching a game without offside. Football now is already looking a lot like handball with nine or ten defenders in front of the goal. It's difficult for the opposition to score a goal as it's very difficult to create something in the small pieces of space they give you. So if you play without offside you get more possibilities to score a goal.”
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Van Basten enjoys a close working relationship with Gianni Infantino, the president of Fifa (Getty)
“We are trying to help the game, to let the game develop in a good way,” Van Basten added. “We want to have a game which is honest, which is dynamic, a nice spectacle so we should try to do everything to help that process.”
Van Basten also suggested a middle ground between players being shown a yellow card and receiving a red card and then being removed for the rest of the game. “Maybe an orange card could be shown that sees a player go out of the game for 10 minutes for incidents that are not heavy enough for a red card.”
Such an instance could be when a player commits repeat fouls that didn't warrant yellow cards or obstruct opponents. Five misdemeanors could earn a player a place in a sin bin for 10 minutes.
Any changes to the laws of the game cannot be forced through by Van Basten, however close he is to Fifa's president Gianni Infantino. He said he wants to listen to the views of world before any proposals are taken to the game's law-making body, The International Football Association Board (Ifab). Fifa controls half of the eight votes on Ifab, with the other four retained by the British associations.
 
No offsides rules? Is he mad? Would be great for Robbie though to finally return to the game.

The '8 second run up' penalty? YOu mean the idea that was so bad that the MLS scraped it?

Sin Bin - like.

Orange card? Fuck Trump, lt's go with Pink.
 
The no offside rule would result in players like Fellaini staying in the penalty area all the time just waiting for balls to be pumped up to them.

Maureen probably loves that idea.
 
He should suggest all of this to Barclays as the basis of a new game. They can help him launch it, like they did for that irritating old geezer who promotes walking football on the telly (not Van Gaal, the other one).
 
This could be like rugby sevens / IPL style tournament with amended rules. I can see it working in the emerging markets
 
But I doubt even FIFA would consider THAT. The orange/amber card? I fear they'll take that seriously at some stage.
 
Oh, I see they already have, sort of:

2014: Fifa presidential candidate Jerome Champagne has suggested introducing orange cards that would allow referees to send players to a sin-bin.

Van Basten isn't even coming up with NEW stupid ideas.
 
It would be better if they just educated referees more effectively about judging fouls. The last thing you want is encouragement to use multiple cards to hedge your bets. Too many refs use yellow cards with too little thought, and then only resort to red cards after too much thought. And as we saw on Sunday, too many linesmen don't even take up their proper position to judge offside, so there's a need for better coaching there, too. As in politics so in sport, the need for education gets ignored in favour of more laws and increasingly dubious interventions.
 
The only thing I can agree with, which isn't necessarily on Van Basten's agenda is that two cup competitions is too much. Especially if you're playing in Europe. Top teams in England are stocking their squads in order to cope with all competition or in some cases they just can't give it their all or pretty much just disregard them.
The FA cup has history some all for playing the best team in that competition but something needs to be done about the league cup.
Possibly a rule that only U23 players are allowed to play in it or something.
 
Obviously scrapping the offside rule is more than a bit mental, but there is a debate there on how you tweak the rules to make it harder for teams to kill games off (i.e. parking the bus).

Outlawing passing back to the 'keeper is one of the ways it's been done before and arguably has been successful.

What else could be done? Or does anything actually need to be done.
 
They need to put chain linked fences all around the pitch so that the ball doesn't go out of play and allow players to do cheeky one twos with themselves.
 
I like the sin- bin idea and have been advocating it for years. A player can end up being sent off for two yellows with a combination of innocuous fouls, kicking the ball away, taking shirt off, not retreating ten yards etc etc, which is daft. It would also be good for the last defender committing a foul/ penalty where the punishment is seen as a double whammy.
No offsides sounds like it would be mad everyone would be goal-hanging, but who knows - give it a try in a couple of experimental games - at least he's thinking outside the box
 
I like the sin- bin idea and have been advocating it for years. A player can end up being sent off for two yellows with a combination of innocuous fouls, kicking the ball away, taking shirt off, not retreating ten yards etc etc, which is daft. It would also be good for the last defender committing a foul/ penalty where the punishment is seen as a double whammy.
No offsides sounds like it would be mad everyone would be goal-hanging, but who knows - give it a try in a couple of experimental games - at least he's thinking outside the box

I take your point, Vladders, but surely it would be better to cut down on some of the stupid rules and the lack of common sense rather than keep having to invent something to compensate for them? Stopping refs throwing around yellow cards for innocuous fouls, for example.
 
if it ain't broke.. don't try and fix it..
I think it is broke. It's not a really bad idea but I don't think it will happen. Sometimes rules get implemented and if it works they carry on if it doesn't then just go back. No harm in trying it out. Just look at how DRS works in cricket. It's improved the game immeasurably IMO. Cricket has been around a lot longer than football. I don't see the problem in trying it out.

EDIT : I'm talking about the orange card thing really. No offside is just daft.
 
The no offside thing is beyond stupid. Americans would love the game split into quarters. They wanted that ages ago when they hosted the world cup.
 
Man u would be delighted.

I've never been a fan of Extra Time so I agree with him on that one.
 
"Ninety minutes split into four quarters"? As opposed to what - six quarters??
This is all about introducing more ads.
It's not about the players at all.

I support the rule about more subs per game though.
 
I take your point, Vladders, but surely it would be better to cut down on some of the stupid rules and the lack of common sense rather than keep having to invent something to compensate for them? Stopping refs throwing around yellow cards for innocuous fouls, for example.

Oh indeed yes is think you are right - this business about an automatic booking for shirt removal is ridiculous - but there are numerous occasions where a halfway point between a yellow and a red card could be considered
 
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