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Joel Matip

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by King Binny, Apr 22, 2019.

  1. King Binny

    King Binny Very Well-Known Honorary Member

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    The tweet is slightly disingenuous, we've lost only 1 game in the PL.  Joel Matip has had mares this season and should not be carried away.
     
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    He is a top class CB, we saw that when he first came in and looked brilliant until injuries interrupted that.

    Had a bit of a wobble last season but has got the form back.

    His playing out the back and his passing are very underrated.

    Given away few needless corners that have led to goals and shinned a few attempted clearances towards Alisson but generally he's been fantastic.
     
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    We've averaged 0.56 goals against per game all season.

    Weird tweet that.
     
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    Imagine that video was of someone we were being linked with. We'd be creaming ourselves.

    But 50p head etc etc etc.
     
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    He's actually really good.
     
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    mark1975 Moderator Moderator

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    Bollocks. I wasn't convinced by him, but we thought we were fucked when Gomez got injured, Matip has been brilliant.
     
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    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    Who's lauding him up as the second coming? Pretty much everyone, including me have Gomez ahead of him when fit.
    Also are you forgetting that the lad was free?
     
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    Nice video of Matip playing with Ma balls.
    He’s been pretty fucking dope. Give the guy his due.
     
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    I have given everyone a like on here who have been positive on Matip.  The issue I think is that everyone is thinking Gomez and wants him to be the man next to VVD.  Yes Gomez is your number one but one thing that does come to mind which we won't know is that the 2nd half the season is the hardest - Gomez for all his great qualities is young, and sometimes you want someone older with a little more experience in that back line.  The runs and passes by Matip from the back have not been praised enough in my view on this site or in the general media.  I think it is quite a frightening site for opposition midfield when they see this massive 6ft4" geezer just running towards you with the ball at his feet.
     
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    Don't think we can underestimate the importance of a run of games for a player too. We're now bearing the fruits of that with Matip
     
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    Pregnant?
     
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    What?!
     
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    Talking of German imports, I'm glad we missed the bullet with Mustafi
     
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    You guys have been pretty harsh on Matip (in the other thread largely).

    He's not world class but he's been very solid alongside VVD. Give credit where due.
     
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    He has been very good yeah, but the tweet says we've conceded an average of .7 goals in the games he's played. We've conceded .56 all season, and he's played about 60%, so we must have conceded approx .35 in the games he hasn't played, so twice as effective without him.

    I'm not saying this should be used as an accurate measure, I'm just saying whoever tweeted that in the first instance didn't think about it very well.
     
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    Agree with this and would add that - like the rest of the side - Matip has also benefited hugely from Virgil and Alisson being added to the mix.

    But I wouldn't want to deny Matip himself a share of the credit.  He still had to step up and take advantage of those improved circumstances, and he has.
     
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    He is better than lovren
     
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