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Looks Like We Really Werner Sign Him...

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by FoxForceFive, Oct 30, 2019.

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  1. Squiggles

    Squiggles Very Well-Known Member

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    I really like him. I like that he can play Firminos position, but also the lead in a 4231, which suits us nicely. He doesn't create much for himself and won't be a superstar, but he will be a very efficient goal scorer anywhere, especially in a side which creates chances for fun. We can't keep relying in the resilience of our front three. We saw Klopp's Dortmund team break down in his final year. With the resources we have we can safeguard against that. Werner would certainly be a good fit, IMO.
     
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    keniget Part of the Furniture Member

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    If we're going to rotate one of the front three with someone like that, we need to replace that creativity somewhere (midfield).
     
  3. moron

    moron i am legend Member

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    I will take the word of those of you who follow that league and in particular have seen games with this guy in it, the stats look very good, but apart from that - I think if we get him, it may help Keita get over his current shyness.  I don't mean that in any bad way - just to be clear, but I think we may see Naby improve his game knowing he has one of his old pals playing with him.
     
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    juniormember Well-Known Member

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    He already has one though.
     
  5. manwithnoname

    manwithnoname Bravo old man. Bravo. Banned

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    Christ, are we moving into that territory with fucking Noddy Keita now?

    Stage 1: New, adjusting, pace of the league, language barrier etc. Will be a star!
    Stage 2: Injured/ dropped
    Stage 3: Second season, injury-free, easing him in. Will come good.
    Stage 4: Plays with the stiffs in second-tier matches. Is not good.
    Stage 5: Maybe we need a new formation that suits him? Buy him a mate he knows and has played with? ANYTHING FOR GOD'S SAKE.
    Stage 6: Loan
    Stage 7: Sold/ leaves on a free.
     
  6. Modo

    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    Would this work:

    ------------Werner
    Mane----------------Salah
    -----------Firmino

    ----K/W/H------- Fabinho
     
  7. Judge Jules

    Judge Jules SCM Addict Member

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    IMO no.  Bobby is never as effective when he drops too far back, and a set-up like that would practically force him to do so.

    Werner's a good player but I'm not convinced he's the player for us.  If he's not up for a supporting role (at least for now) I'd be concerned that signing him might turn out to be a case of "fixing" what ain't broke.  We do need to strengthen the squad, but we need to do it with signings which won't disrupt our ongoing development.
     
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    Re: moving to UNited, if he's willing to go to United instead of us, it shows a complete lack of ambition going to a lower club, in transition, for more money, and I frankly don't want the lad,

    I'd like to note this as a historic statement. It's the first time in my adult life, I've ever said that
     
  9. FoxForceFive

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    If Werner (or any other big price tag forward) comes then it's to bed him in to replace one of the front three when they go imo, not to be long term 4th choice or alternate forward, imo.
     
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    manwithnoname Bravo old man. Bravo. Banned

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    That's a shame, we need a viable and top quality attacking option to allow rotation of the front three and also have more ways of playing.
     
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    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    A bit contradictory, isn't it? Could be applied to a lot of players we've signed over the years.
     
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    localny Well-Known Member

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    Nope.
     
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    I'd hope a forward of some repute like Werner would fancy his chances of pushing his way into this team. Bobby is great at times but he's by no means unassailable, in fact it's only Mane that has been undrop(rest)able recently.
     
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    Barca & Real aside I can't think of any club that has a backup forward at the same level as their 'first choice'. Most are a considerable step down. Even Jesus at City isn't close to the same level as Aguero. And it's likely all to do with being seen as the main man and being that 'first choice' in all the important games.
     
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    arsenal!
     
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    Mystic Moderator Moderator

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    Maybe I need to whisper this, but I'm not convinced Werner is anything more than a German Vardy, or dare I say it, a slightly better Divock. He plays in a team where he's allowed to counter into space, and he can make the best of his only real traits, pace and power. He's not in a team that dominates the ball and has to break down teams, where he has to play patient and clever, I think he's quintessentially the wrong fit for this side.
     
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    I think it will be Salah that leaves, he is a marked man in this league and i think we have seen the best of him already.  But I agree, if we get a prove goal scorer they are not gonna be happy bench warmers.
     
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    moron i am legend Member

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    Stick to 5 for now.  I think its what the guy needs.  Some people are like that, have seen it at work .. am sure you have.  New managers bring their coaching staff and replace existing ones, we bought a succession of Southampton players....etc..
     
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    I think Vardy would do brilliantly in this team.
     
  20. FoxForceFive

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    When one of our front three leaves we'll change playing style. If we haven't done so already. Klopp has continually adapted our style of play (something that's lost on many of our fans, bizarrely), but the front three haven't changed much in terms of style of play at all.
     
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