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Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by 6TimesaRed, Sep 4, 2021.

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  1. Frogfish

    Frogfish Gone to Redcafe Member

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    I thought Mini had a good game and took his goals remarkably well. However giving away possession 10 times is unacceptable for us (even more so in a match such as this) and I mentioned this after the match I think. His passing needs to improve (allowing for creative passes that obviously have a lower chance to being completed).
     
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    It sometimes feels like he might be more of a classic number 9 type player, playing in the wrong position. He clearly has an eye for goal, he finds space in the box. But in midfield and build up play he can be quite erratic.
     
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    One of his biggest issues, which he doesn't look any closer to resolving than when he first arrived is that he gets shoved off the ball too easily.

    We are playing in a pretty physical league and when he comes under pressure, he finds that he doesn't have the time or ability to give himself time that he needs.

    I like him as a player but unless he resolves this as a starting point I just don't think it matters which position he plays in because he'll keep coming up against the same problems.
     
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  4. Halmeister

    Halmeister Some sort of pun about having a well known member Member

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    I didn't watch the game, but I'm still gonna err on the side of "he's shit" before I see any meaningful evidence to start sucking him off.
     
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    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    Minamino is like knock off version of Benayoun or maybe Luis Garcia.
     
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    You could start with watching his goals. However as Keni (lacks strength on the ball), Johnny (erratic) and myself (passing) said, there are weaknesses to be resolved. Maybe they never will be but he's worth persisting with for at least this season (as if we have any option).
     
  7. Halmeister

    Halmeister Some sort of pun about having a well known member Member

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    I've seen the goals. Decent enough finishes, but I'm not gonna start proclaiming the worm has turned because he scored 2 against Norwich's B team
     
  8. binomial

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    He's just not going to be given a chance by Klopp.

    Rightly or wrongly I don't care so long we win the double.
     
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    Is there any middle ground between "he's shit" and full on fellatio?
     
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    Saying "he might have turned a corner" is not sucking him off. Klopp obviously saw something which IMHO will take time. It's a long season, our squad options are rather thin, so him and Div will get games.
     
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    I'm surprised the club have done little to address his physicality. He's been here a while now and is he remains as slight as when he first arrived.

    I'm not expecting him to turn in the Hulk, but it's clear Mane and Salah spend large amounts of time in the gym, and Firmino has the upper body strength to hold off players and link up. As Keni points out its a glaring weakness in his game and at 26, we haven't really got the time to be unproductive with his development.

    Yesterday I thought he looked a bit lost in the attacking three, but performed better in the midfield in the second half.

    The issue then is his does all his most effective work inside the box, so I wonder if we should use develop him him into a poacher, similar to what Pep is doing with Torres this season.

    The two goals were encouraging, but I think his performances throw up more questions than answers a lot of the time. Until that changes he'll remain a cup rotation option, which is a bit of a shame.
     
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    Agree with the points that he seems much better when using instinct, either shooting or interplay in the box. He seems less adept at slower link up play outside the box. He'd probably work well in more of a 442 system.
     
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    Dreambeliever From Doubter to Believer Member

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    He can’t play a big part this season. He does have an eye for a goal.

    That’s 3 in his last 2 starts right?
     
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    Take a look at the world outside your window and answer that question yourself.
     
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    Halmeister Some sort of pun about having a well known member Member

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    Plus, he is obviously shit.
     
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    Under any manager other than Klopp I'd have absolutely written him off, but Klopp has a precedent of taking his time with players and it paying off: Robertson, Tsimikas, I reckon we'll see it with Konate, and hopefully we will with Mini too.

    Its a long shot though, but worse case, he's a pretty decent 4th or 5th choice option, let's be honest.
     
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    If he was like 21 or 22, and he had put in the same largely dismal performances over the same amount of time, then maybe I'd hold out some hope of Klopp working his magic.

    But he will be 27 in January (older than Origi) and he's shit. I'd get rid as soon as someone stupid enough put in any sort of bid.
     
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    Oh wow, yeh, I'm guilty of thinking he was in Jotas age bracket.
     
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    The lack of strength and inability to win the ball back (which is linked to the strength problem) are for me fatal flaws in his Liverpool career. I’d love him to prove me wrong. That being said some great touches and composure from him last night.
     
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    Pep said during the pre match interview that Minamino has a knack of getting himself into 1v1 situations with the goalie. Which came true once again.

    He could be a useful sub to bring on when we are struggling to break defences down on certain days.
     
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