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Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Rosco, Mar 31, 2008.

  1. Rosco

    Rosco Worse than Brendan Honorary Member

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    Manny to the Dodgers, Bay to the Red Sox and the Pirayes got a number of good prospects.
     
  2. Rosco

    Rosco Worse than Brendan Honorary Member

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    Junior to the White Sox too
     
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    Whaddapie Well-Known Honorary Member

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    Ah Bollix!
     
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    LeTallecWiz Administrator Administrator

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    I think the Bo Sox may have just cost themselves a shot at back to back titles ... No matter how selfish he was, he did a lot of talking with his bat and the hole he's now left in that line up is not replaceable ....
     
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    Rosco Worse than Brendan Honorary Member

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    [quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=22065.msg634929#msg634929 date=1217570833]
    I think the Bo Sox may have just cost themselves a shot at back to back titles ... No matter how selfish he was, he did a lot of talking with his bat and the hole he's now left in that line up is not replaceable ....
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    I don't know Wiz, even Varitek came out and acknowledge it was a pain dealing with Manny's tantrums every year and he said it did take it's toll on the dressing room.

    I bet the Dodgers wish they had the DH, how many outfielders do they have now ? Pierre, Ethier, Kemp, Jones, Manny.
     
  6. LeTallecWiz

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    [quote author=Rosco link=topic=22065.msg634936#msg634936 date=1217572725]
    [quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=22065.msg634929#msg634929 date=1217570833]
    I think the Bo Sox may have just cost themselves a shot at back to back titles ... No matter how selfish he was, he did a lot of talking with his bat and the hole he's now left in that line up is not replaceable ....
    [/quote]

    I don't know Wiz, even Varitek came out and acknowledge it was a pain dealing with Manny's tantrums every year and he said it did take it's toll on the dressing room.

    I bet the Dodgers wish they had the DH, how many outfielders do they have now ? Pierre, Ethier, Kemp, Jones, Manny.
    [/quote]

    from espn.com:

     
  7. Whaddapie

    Whaddapie Well-Known Honorary Member

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    Yep, and I could print you at least one other sports site that claims the Red Sox were big winners in the deal...

    Listen, a committed, focused Manny (as committed and focus as that eejit could be, anyway) was as good a pure hitter as there may have ever been in the game.

    But the selfish, lethargic, 'I'm-gonna-turn-my-back-on-my-teammates-and-not-give-a-shite' Manny that we've seen in these past few weeks..? Losing him is no loss at all. In fact, it'll probably energise the clubhouse that this cancer that we've been putting up with for soooooo long is now gone, I wouldn't be surprised if we turn our recent, dismal form around, starting tonight.

    Manny's 'performance' in the bottom of the 9th, Vs the yankees, with the winning run on 2nd base, when he simply stood and watched three straight fast balls go down the middle, to send a message to Tito and the rest of the Sox management, tells you all that you need to know about him.

    So does the fact that his best buddy, David Ortiz hasn't said a word about this. And if Jason Varitek is having a go, you KNOW it was a f#$!ing nightmare dealing with him.

    So, all in all, though we may not be quite as potent this morning as we were yesterday, we actually haven't been that potent for several weeks now anyway.

    Thanks for everything Manny, but it's time. And I think we'll be better for it.
     
  8. Rosco

    Rosco Worse than Brendan Honorary Member

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    When Varitek spoke out against Manny that was the turning point for me too, but you are giving up one of the best hitters in the game for a guy with similar numbers but nowhere near the aura surrounding him.

    Bay won't make pitchers sweat the way Manny does.
     
  9. Whaddapie

    Whaddapie Well-Known Honorary Member

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    Agreed. No question.

    Nor will he make his own teammates sweat it like Manny did.

    Listen, I'm really sad that it came to this, becasue a happy Manny batting behind Papi made us feared like no other team over the past 5 seasons - I loved him too.

    But his shite has been dragging the team down for ages now, and enough's enough.

    I'll miss the Manny who cared.

    The bloke who walked out yesterday has cared for months now.

    And for us, he was never going to care again.
     
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    time will tell dallas ... time will tell ...

    but when it comes to the post season (if the sox make it), you'll really be missing a man who a) was clutch in october (far more than Mr. Jeter, who gets all the acclaim for 4 world series and one wonder catch) and b) who absolutely loved facing the skankees ... If anyone from the AL wins it other than the Rangers, I'd rather it's the Bo Sox just b/c it PISSES OFF the yankees so much ...

    Angels are definite challengers too.
     
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    Agreed, Avy.

    But my point is that THAT Manny hasn't been a Red Sock for several weeks now, and wasn't coming back. So from that perspective, it's a deal that we HAD to make.

    It has now come out that Theo met with all the veterans on the team (Ortiz, Lowell, 'Tek, Wakefield, even Pedroia) two days before the trade deadline, and asked them what their feelings were, hoping to hear (again) that it was just Manny, and they'd cope with it (again) for the sake of the team.

    But to a man, they told him that Manny HAD to go, because it had reached a point were he had made it clear to them that he could not be counted on to give his all for the team. He was destroying the team, they said...

    So, f#$! him. THAT Manny is no loss what-so-ever.

    I will miss the other Manny though. I loved him.

    And by the way, we WILL make October. And the Angels are not challangers...

    They're now the team to beat.
     
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    points well made D.

    I don't think the Angels are the 'team to beat' - The Sox still are, with or without Manny ... But if they can just gel even more, and get Tex going, they will chase you guys & the yankees all the way.
     
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    Manny's 1st 6 games with the Dodgers? 4 HRS, 9 RBIs ... Someone seems motivated again, eh?
     
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    Thank God we traded him to the NL...

    JB hasn't looked too bad either, though - And his salary allows us to spend BIG money elsewhere in the coming off-season.
     
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    [quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=22065.msg640368#msg640368 date=1218203300]
    Thank God we traded him to the NL...

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    i was thinking that too ... the last thing you want is a motivated manny facing you in the playoffs ... yikes, he's gonna lead them to the playoffs me thinks.
     
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    Rosco Worse than Brendan Honorary Member

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    Gents,

    If you had to pick a starting team of current players who would you have in it ? (You can have a DH, all the positions, an SP and a closer)
    Not necessarily the best players, but players you'd like in your team.


    C: Joe Mauer
    1B: Albert Pujols
    2B: Chase Utley
    3B: David Wright
    SS: Hanley Ramirez
    LF: Manny Ramirez
    CF: Josh Hamilton  
    RF: Alexis Rios
    DH: Ryan Braun

    SP: Roy Halladay
    CL: Mariano Rivera



    I got a bit stuck with the outfielders !
     
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    K Rod has 50 saves already ... phenomenal.
     
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    So, was there EVER any doubt, that in the last game ever played in yankee stadium between the sox and the empire that NYY would come from behind to win it in the bottom of the ninth..?

    C'mon God - We saw that coming the moment they announced the new stadium!
     
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    BUT there was definitely not DOUBT that the Yankees would make playoffs, right? Hopefully they don't get the pleasure of signing off Skankees Stadium with a playoff game!
     
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    I can't see them catching BOTH us and Cjicago or Minnesota now, mate. Can you?

    In previous years, I'd not believe that they're out until it's mathematically impossible(and I'm about to jinx it), but their pitching isn't good enough to make up that kind of ground, is it?

    (Not a jinx if it's a question as opposed to a difinitive statement, is it?)
     

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