Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by Ijg, Jul 22, 2019.
Virgil MOTHERFUCKING Van Dijk.
We absolutely smashed it getting him, he’s unreal.
He's the best. It isn't even an argument. He's absolutely perfect for us. Or for anyone. There is not a team he wouldn't improve.
An uplifting watch to start my day with a coffee and this. Cheers !
The question for me becomes - where does he currently stand among the LFC greats?
Yeah quite agree. I’d give him a reach around. He’s ace.
He’s certainly got the talent to be up there. But, to be a true LFC great, he’s gonna have to do it for a few years at least, which I’m sure he will.
I'm guessing you've got very long and very strong arms then.
This. I've always picked Hansen and Lawrenson at CB in my idea of the All-Time XI, and at this point I still would because they were such a perfect combo, but on what I've seen so far I'd say Virgil individually has probably got a wider range of skills than either of them. If he keeps on the way he's going, he'll be shunting Lawrenson to the bench alongside Sami at some stage.
I also agree that he'll do it for us for a good few years. He could very easily have gone to Citeh or the Chavs - that's certainly what Southampton wanted - but he held out to come to us and I defo get the impression that he feels right at home with LFC.
Where does Rowdy feature in your list? My old man would always have him in there alongside Hansen. The rock that Shanks built an empire on.
"Come and take a walk around him", eh?
Perfectly fair question and for me he'd be in a squad of 23/24, but ultimately not quite in the matchday 17/18. Judged by the very highest LFC standards we've had (somewhat) better, IMHO of course.
He's the most COMPLETE centre back I've seen at Liverpool over the last 40yrs .
Reading the game: 9
(Ratings by me)
What other Centre Back in our history would score so highly in each category ?
He can head the ball like Yeats, he's as quick as Lawrenson, can organise like Carragher, has the composure and passing reminiscent of Hansen. His positioning and reading of the game reminds me of Phil Thompson.
Playing in an era where you can't tackle from behind or pass back to the keeper.
He's up for the Ballon'Dor in an era of Messi and Ronaldo.
Quite simply, he's the best.
Nah! I've seen a lot (apart from Yeats) VVD is simply the best. Everything about his play is 100% just add captaincy to that he'll be the full enchilada. Sami comes fucking close though.
So a few questions..
How long does a CB typically Have? Till 34/35?
Does his age mean he's unlikely to go to Spain/Italy?
If he was to go, how long do we have him?
Or would he stay and be a club man? Would captaincy help that?
Answers on a postcard to: Virgil will fix it, Shepards Bush, London XXX, YYY
Depends on the CB I guess. Van Dijk has lean build, I think he'll have a long career unless he gets a chronic injury.
We've won the lottery, haven't we? I'm still pinching myself that after so many years of watching dodgy, clownish and fearful defenders we've got the world's best CB in Liverpool. Same goes for Alisson in goal too. Now we need to win some more trophies to show for it.
That has certainly become a more feasible prospect since those guys arrived. A fantastic attack is rarely enough on its own to win trophies, as we have shown in a number of different phases in the last few decades.
He's not just the best CB for us. He's arguably the most complete CB to ever play the game. There's no weaknesses whatsoever.
He's the Messi/Ronaldo of CB's. There's no debate around it.
I’d just give him a 10 for everything.
If there is a weakness, it’s that he’s too casual sometimes. We saw this a couple times in pre-season already - but in big games his concentration has been impeccable. And I think he can still improve his goal-scoring numbers for someone so physically dominant.
I've been wondering whether he's going to have a bit of a dip this season.
I get this feeling - like I did in the beginning with Sturridge - that he's just too good to be true.
Hopefully times have changed for us!