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Poll Which player has seen the biggest fall off?

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Biggest let down?

  • Trent

    Votes: 3 8.3%

  • Salah

    Votes: 3 8.3%

  • Gomez

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Matip

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Fab

    Votes: 28 77.8%

  • VVD

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Hendo

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Robbo

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    36
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Who has let you down most? For me it's Fab. He is a shadow of his former self. Not sure what the reason is.
 
From when though?

In the Klopp era then Naby should 100% be there.

This season? Probably Trent. Defended like a school boy in near enough all the games, constantly gets rinsed by every LW he faces multiple times a game.....even in games when we've kept clean sheets and we got left off the hook.

From start of last season? Fab for sure. This season has been a bad decline but it's been coming for over a year now.

At 1 point it was Firmino, right after we won the CWC in Doha he came back and did next to nothing for 2 years before starting this season pretty well.

So it really depends what time frame you take into account.
 
Yeah, Fabinho no contest. Although he's been showing signs of life lately.
 
Trent is surely a close 2nd? Tsimikas has more assists Or does the 58 chances created means we are being overly harsh?

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Roberto FirminoFirmino
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{td}7{/td}
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Trent Alexander-Arnold
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Luis Díaz
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James MilnerMilner
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Harvey ElliottElliott
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Fabinho is 29 isn’t he, he’s fallen so far I’m not sure he could even drop back to play in defence. But I’m also of the opinion the decline around him has really exposed his deficiencies.
 
Passes incomplete by Trent is crazy.

Also why does the table show "no data" for Harvey's and Darwin's pass incomplete when all the others are just calculated by taking away the passes complete from the total passes.
 
rubans said:
To be fair, Trent does try the hardest passes in the team so not sure if the stats cover side ways Joe 96% passes.
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Yeah granted but even when watching there are a lot of wayward passes from him, ones that shouldn’t be so hard to make for someone with his passing ability.
 
FAB.

Looks like he can't be arsed and he tries his absolute best to get sent off.

Good job VAR is still a solid 7/10 for us.
 
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binomial said:
From when though?

In the Klopp era then Naby should 100% be there.

This season? Probably Trent. Defended like a school boy in near enough all the games, constantly gets rinsed by every LW he faces multiple times a game.....even in games when we've kept clean sheets and we got left off the hook.

From start of last season? Fab for sure. This season has been a bad decline but it's been coming for over a year now.

At 1 point it was Firmino, right after we won the CWC in Doha he came back and did next to nothing for 2 years before starting this season pretty well.

So it really depends what time frame you take into account.
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What's Naby dropped off from? I'm still waiting for him to get going.
 
The answer isn't Trent. He's been poor at times, but he's had good games.

Salah's dip in overall level of play is mental. Gomez and Matip have seen a catastrophic drop in ability...

I think I'd go with Fabinho though. He went from one of, if not THE, best in the world in his position, to looking like he'd never seen grass before, nevermind kicked a football.
 
Ultimately the biggest let down has been the whole outfield team.

Leaders like Hendo and Virgil have looked anything but.

Robbo maybe it's just exhaustion, far from the flying scotsman we loved seeing.

Gomez I never really rated that highly anyway, 1 very good season out of 7? Far too error prone to ever have been considered a world class CB.
 
tombrown said:
The single biggest drop off? The quality of posts, culture and atmosphere in this forum
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Oooooft, whenever an opportunity arises some really never fail to stick the cold needle in.

I like it TB but you cheated! That's 3 things.
 
I know I have been guilty of it, but Fab's has not gotten as much flack as Salah and Trent, why is that? Salah has got 20 goals and 9 assists, stats wise. Trent has created more chances than anyone else.
 
bluebell said:
I know I have been guilty of it, but Fab's has not gotten as much flack as Salah and Trent, why is that? Salah has got 20 goals and 9 assists, stats wise. Trent has created more chances than anyone else.
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It's probably compounded as our whole midfield has been abysmal. He just looks the worst in a shit bunch in a usually quietly efficient area; whereas Trent and mo are more obvious in their shiteness, as they aren't winning us games like last year
 
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