2 points a game

[Mors]

Rodgers has mentioned this target a few times now, is it doable this season? I don't think it is based on what we've seen.

We're currently 2 points behind this target after 1/3rd of the season, but we've only played 3 out of 10 of the 'big games' on paper (scum, city, arse, spurs, everton - home and away). And we've lost to Hull and Southampton outside of that.

If we got 2pts a game between now and the end of the season we'd be on 74pts, which would have been enough to get 4th last year (15pts behind the scum!). But normally 4th place is around the late 60's.

Considering we've been lately been getting around 60points a season, is an extra 14 points that big a push?

I think we'll finish around the 65-70 mark, but if we do any more than that I'd say we'd be nailed on for the top 4.

I think the key is going to be getting 'some' points out of those big games. If there's 21 up for grabs, we could do with about 9+ to top up the points we will be getting out of the other teams.

 

[Silver Sean]

We'll finish 6th or 7th and then spend next season doing the same. 'Three players away' is our mantra.

 

[King Binny]

So far:

- 6 games against top half sides
W 1 D 2 L 3 F 7 A 11 Point-Per-Game(PPG) 0.83 Pts 5

- 7 games against bottom half sides
W 6 D 1 L 0 F 18 A 5 PPG 2.71 Pts 19

Coincidentally, of the 6 league fixtures left this month, 3 each from top half and bottom half. Estimate will be 10-11 points out of 18.

 

[RedZeppelin III]

haven't we got something like 14 points from a possible 45 against the 6 "big" teams (everton included ) under Rodgers ? I'd be pleasantly surprised if that increased as the season goes on .

 

[Rosco]

I agree with it as a target, but can't see us getting it this year.

 

[mark1975]

2pts? It's not the 1970's.
I can't believe this guy has a job in top flight football. Tsk.

 

[Mors]

haven't we got something like 14 points from a possible 45 against the 6 "big" teams (everton included ) under Rodgers ? I'd be pleasantly surprised if that increased as the season goes on .

Based on that figure, with the 21points remaining from 'big games' this season we'd be looking at more like 1pt per game from them, or 7pts in total. I think we'd need more than that to get top 4 or anywhere near our 2pts per game target. Saying that, is 2 wins and a draw that bad from those 7 games?

 

[King Binny]

Martinez mentioned something similar

[article=http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/446656/It-all-adds-up-for-Roberto-Martinez-as-he-sets-Everton-71-point-target]“To get into the Champions League, I can guarantee you now, what you need to do is get an average of 1.94 points from the last 11 games,” he said.

“That is what we are working towards. Winning at Old Trafford or not is not going to affect being in that position.

“If we get 71 points we will be in the Champions League. It doesn’t matter if we are 10th or 15th now. That’s the way it happens.”[/article]

 

[Mors]

I don't get his first comment, they need an av of 1.88 from every game between now and the end to get 71pts.

 

[King Binny]

I don't get his first comment, they need an av of 1.88 from every game between now and the end to get 71pts.

I think the situation he mention is applicable if they keep up their current form. Currently they're average 1.84 per game. That'll be 49.68 after 27 games. 1.94 per game for last 11 games will bring 21.34. 49.68+21.34=71.02.

The last 11 games begin in Mar 2014.

[article=http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/263381.html]In the 12 seasons that the Champions League had admitted four English clubs, only once has a team collected more than 70 points and failed to qualify - and that was Tottenham, who finished fifth in May with a final total of 72.[/article]

 

[gene hughes]

Haha @ Tottenham

 

[RedStar]

I think 4th will be higher total than normal this season because of the stop start form of ourselves Spurs and Utd so 74 points sounds about right.

We are currently on 27 from 14 games which is 1.92 so thats within the margin of error I reckon. As has been pointed out we have a very tough fixture list over the next 4 weeks so if we are still around 1.85 by the time we hit January then its probably still achievable.

Basically we would need about 23 wins and a handful of draws per season to make up those numbers, it doesnt matter whether they come against the best 5 teams in the league or the worst 5. We have won 8 so far, meaning we need to win another 15 from the remaining 24 games to be in with a realistic chance of taking 4th. Obviously it would help our cause to take points off the teams around us an thereby lower the overall total required for 4th but its not essential.

 

[Red Mullet]

I think 4th will be higher total than normal this season because of the stop start form of ourselves Spurs and Utd so 74 points sounds about right.

We are currently on 27 from 14 games which is 1.92 so thats within the margin of error I reckon. As has been pointed out we have a very tough fixture list over the next 4 weeks so if we are still around 1.85 by the time we hit January then its probably still achievable.

Basically we would need about 23 wins and a handful of draws per season to make up those numbers, it doesnt matter whether they come against the best 5 teams in the league or the worst 5. We have won 8 so far, meaning we need to win another 15 from the remaining 24 games to be in with a realistic chance of taking 4th. Obviously it would help our cause to take points off the teams around us an thereby lower the overall total required for 4th but its not essential.

Actually, I would have thought the number of points to get into 4 would be lower than usual purely because the "lower" teams that usually lose have been winning or getting draws. This, however, isn't good since there will be more teams competing for the 4th place.

 

[RedStar]

Actually, I would have thought the number of points to get into 4 would be lower than usual purely because the "lower" teams that usually lose have been winning or getting draws. This, however, isn't good since there will be more teams competing for the 4th place.

Its going to be a royal rumble for 4th this season, Everton Spurs Utd and possibly Newcastle or Southampton will all be our rivals for 4th this year. You can expect 1 or 2 to fall away in the 2nd half of the season but I expect Spurs and Utd will pick up the pace and mount a real challenge at some point

 

[Jack D Rips]

On track

 

[Fallon]

Fuck 4th!