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Philippe Coutinho becomes 'a proper Brazilian' for Liverpool

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A flamboyant flick with the heel sent José Enrique scurrying clear, completely fooled the opponent and left Anfield purring in approval. It was the first sign that Liverpool had acquired in Philippe Coutinho "a proper Brazilian," as his compatriot Lucas Leiva put it. "Like the fans were probably expecting when I signed." There cannot be a misunderstanding with Liverpool's new No10.

"I know the importance of the number 10," says the 20-year-old from Rio, who cites Kaká and Ronaldinho as role models. "In Brazil the one who wears 10 constructs the attacks. That is what I will try to do here. The number I have at Liverpool does not give me any added pressure. The pressure I have is to play well and do my best for the team. I know that I am representing a huge club and I want to enjoy my football."

The shirt number reflects the faith that Liverpool have invested in Coutinho, along with the £8.5m paid to Internazionale for him in January, of course. The aforementioned piece of skill arrived early in the recent 5-0 defeat of Swansea City, when the Brazilian marked his full debut with a fine goal, a part in the flowing team move that produced the third for José Enrique plus several eye-catching exchanges with Daniel Sturridge and Luis Suárez – as well as a standing ovation when he left the field on the hour. The manager, Brendan Rodgers, would welcome a repeat at Wigan on Saturday having insisted Liverpool's season did not end with the Europa League exit against Zenit St Petersburg five days later.

Swansea's style suited the young Brazilian, who was ineligible to face the Russian champions, just as Michael Laudrup's much changed team ahead of the League Cup final suited Liverpool. It was different on his first appearance against West Bromwich Albion when Gareth McAuley scored moments after his late introduction and a slight forward line of Coutinho, Suárez, Fabio Borini and Raheem Sterling chased the game in vain.

"The football is quite different to what I'm used to because you have to be much quicker here," he admits. "The pace is much quicker than Italy or Brazil. In Brazil we play quite open but I'm doing my best to adapt as quickly as I can."

If there was bemusement at Liverpool's January purchase, it was not of Coutinho's making or a reflection on his potential. Prior to the signing Rodgers had spoken frequently of the need for experience, leaders and "men" at Liverpool before a small 20-year-old who does not speak English became the club's last recruit of the window. His talent and willingness to learn offer compensation.

"In Brazil the Premier League is followed more than any other [foreign league] and everyone says it is the toughest league in the world," says Coutinho through a translator. "The difference I've noticed is you have to be a quick thinker and move around much sooner because the pace is so much higher. I need to improve my muscles because they are still quite small at the moment. Of course it can be a challenge but before I came here Lucas told me about the style of play. To me it is a challenge and I wanted to deal with it as quickly as possible."

So he is not unduly concerned about a robust introduction to the Premier League? "I'm quite calm about that," he says. "If I get kicked, I will get up and carry on playing." Would he retaliate? "No, I have to score the goal first."

Coutinho has adapted quickly off the pitch following the move from Milan, moving into a house with his wife and two brothers, Leandro and Cristiano, that previously belonged to another Liverpool import from Brazil, Fábio Aurélio. "He left it nice and tidy," he says. It has helped having Lucas around for the cultural shift. Liverpool's defensive midfielder has adopted a paternal role with Coutinho off the pitch. "I feel like a father to be honest," he said. "He is in the same situation as I was when I came to Liverpool, very young and doesn't understand the language."

Lucas was also instrumental in the transfer. "I never spoke to the manager before I signed," Coutinho explains. "But I spoke for a long time with Lucas and he explained the methods here. Lucas passed me all the information I needed. He told me how the club works, the style and the structure of the club and how we play. When I signed I already had all the background information I need."

Liverpool have bought rich promise in Coutinho, albeit promise that has struggled to match the hype that surrounded his emergence at Vasco da Gama and intensified when Internazionale paid €4m to sign him at 16. He was restricted to 15 starts in Serie A, spent a season on loan at Espanyol under Mauricio Pochettino, the new Southampton manager, and at 20 is starting anew in a fourth country.

Coutinho admits: "I need to spend some time at a club but I also need to enjoy my football to play my best. I didn't lose my enjoyment at Inter. Sometimes I was disappointed because every player wants to play but I always did my best for Inter. That is why I reached a huge club like Liverpool. I am in the middle of huge players here and I want to carry on learning my trade, doing my best and enjoying my football.

"Hopefully I will have a long career at Liverpool. That is what I am hoping for but it all depends on many things."

"My muscles are quite small at the moment" ... made me chuckle.
 
I love Lucas's self-deprecating humour in this, "Like the fans were probably expecting when I signed." Even Brendan must have a sneaky love for Lucas now.
 
The pass for the second goal was pure sex. Don't think we've had a player with the ability to do that in the final third since Litmanen.
 
It was lovely and he did similar things on several other occasions, spotting runs by SG, Suarez and Downing and having the defenders flapping to intercept. He anticipates the movement of others instinctively which is the hallmark of a play-maker. He has drifted out of this game and others so far, but when we get him fighting fit and switched on, it looks like we have a helluva player on our hands in the Silva/ Mata mould.
 
It looks like we have a helluva player on our hands in the Silva/ Mata mould.


One can only hope ... We're signing some really good, young players recently ... I really really hope we are as successful this summer when signing a defender and goalkeeper (either to replace, or be an understudy for, Reina)
 
The pass for the second goal was pure sex. Don't think we've had a player with the ability to do that in the final third since Litmanen.
That's not fair on all the sublime final through balls that Gerrard provided to the likes of Owen and Torres, though I do understand what you're saying.
 
That's not fair on all the sublime final through balls that Gerrard provided to the likes of Owen and Torres, though I do understand what you're saying.
Gerrard's a great player in the final third, with loads of ability, including the ability to play the killer ball. But he's mostly played that ball on the counter-attack or 'fast break' so to speak, with a player with pace, playing off the defence's shoulders, to exploit it.

Coutinho played that ball in a 'half-court' setting, with the defence set. Threading the needle stuff, which I don't think Gerrard has the ability to.
 
What I'm so pleased with is his speed as well. It was noticeable in those clips before he joined, and he definitely has it. It's one thing having a slow player with great final balls, but it's a whole different story when that player also possesses that natural physical attributes. This excludes genius's like Zidane and Silva, of course.
He has the potential to become Luis Garcia on steroids.

BTW that pass to Suarez was sublime, but feck me, it was a brilliant first touch by Suarez. That pass was travelling at speed from only 10 yards away.
 
Gerrard's a great player in the final third for us, with loads of ability, including the ability to play the killer ball. But he's mostly played that ball on the counter-attack or 'fast break' so to speak, with a player with pace, playing off the defence's shoulders, to exploit it.

Coutinho played that ball in a 'half-court' setting, with the defence set. Threading the needle stuff, which I don't think Gerrard has the ability to.
Gerrard HAS done it, but I know what you're saying. It's the typical quality players that have played a ton of futsal (5-a-side footy) in latin countries seem capable of doing, to various degrees of success of course.
 
I have to say I dont see the Garcia comparisons, other than being physically slight, they seem very different to me, Coutinho has the pace of foot and more importantly of thought to be a really dangerous player in the final third more as a creator than a finisher, Garcia never had that he was more instinctive, doing things in a split second that you hadnt seen coming.

Unfortunately more often than not they didnt work and he was incredibly frustrating to watch as he would repeatedly make the same mistakes over and over. if Coutinho can keep his head down and work hard he has the ability to be a much better player than Garcia
 
I wish Coutinho's football brains will rub on to young players like Raheem and Suso and Allen and Henderson...
 
Yeah he's great n'all, but I thought the molestation by the older guy on the touchline was a bit disturbing. He could have just ruffled his hair.
 
I love Lucas's self-deprecating humour in this, "Like the fans were probably expecting when I signed." Even Brendan must have a sneaky love for Lucas now.

mac, mac, mac, mac, mac......are you really suggesting someone with an entrenched view to, I dunno......CHANGE THEIR MIND AND BE OBJECTIVE AND REASONABLE ?!

That, sir, is some crazy talk.



I'm a big fan of Coutinho and I've got everything crossed that he is a smash here, and in Lucas, he couldn't have a better chap to take him under his wing and all that other sentimental bollocks.
 
He's quite smart, too. He did all those interviews that implied he expected to be easily out-muscled and left panting because of the pace, and then he starts playing and looked at home immediately. No doubt he WILL benefit from working in the gym and building up his stamina, but he clearly knows how to cope already.
 
As Shakespeare would probably have said: how better than a serpent's tooth it is, to have a really good Brazilian in our side.
 
I have to say I dont see the Garcia comparisons, other than being physically slight, they seem very different to me, Coutinho has the pace of foot and more importantly of thought to be a really dangerous player in the final third more as a creator than a finisher, Garcia never had that he was more instinctive, doing things in a split second that you hadnt seen coming.

Unfortunately more often than not they didnt work and he was incredibly frustrating to watch as he would repeatedly make the same mistakes over and over. if Coutinho can keep his head down and work hard he has the ability to be a much better player than Garcia
He has, and he will, make plenty of misplaced 'instinctive' passes. That's just the way he is, and he'll more than likely frustrate with intercepted passes or passes to nobody when the attacking player doesn't make the run he anticipates.
He has the potential to be better than Garcia for us, and as I've said, he has that one attribute you're either born with or you'll never get, which is speed. Something Garcia never had. Don't know what you're disputing with re: my original post.
 
Ignore the Garcia comparisons - this lad has the potential to be far better than Garcia was for us. Garcia, despite his moments of magic, never achieved an automatic starter status for us. Any comparisons with Luis is setting the bar too low.

I think Coutinho looks fantastic. His ball control and movement are insane. We've got a very exciting player on our hands.
 
These signings, Sturridge and Coutinho, already look in a different league to what we've had in since Suarez. I know Henderson and Downing have improved a bit lately but there's a massive difference in the natural talent of these guys to them. We already look a different side. It's ace.
 
I think the more relevant comparison here would be to Yossi. In terms of vision and defense splitting passes Yossi is the one to compare.
When in his peak for us Yossi was great.
However, Coutinho is younger and has more speed than Yossi had when he played for us. Here's hoping we'll see great things from this lad.
 
I think the more relevant comparison here would be to Yossi. In terms of vision and defense splitting passes Yossi is the one to compare.
When in his peak for us Yossi was great.
However, Coutinho is younger and has more speed than Yossi had when he played for us. Here's hoping we'll see great things from this lad.

Yep, hes like a more direct and quicker Yossi. Love him so far, I didn't expect him to be an automatic starter for us, so this is great!
 
So what you are saying is he's a bit like Yossi and Garcia, but not really.

The fact is he is completely like Steve McManaman. He's as quick as him. He works as hard as him. He dribbles like him. He plays through balls like him. He's as skinny as him. He anticipates the position and movement of defenders like him. He goes past players like him. It won't be long before he completely dominates our attacking play like him.

It's kind of an insult to compare these two players to Yossi.
 
I hope he doesn't get completely marked out of games like him.

Even Messi gets marked out of games. It's fine, we still win the game and all they will achieve is to deprive their own fans of the chance to see Coutinho at his best.
 
It doesn't really matter if he does get marked out of games. If teams double up on Coutinho there's tons of space for Suarez / Sturridge / Gerrard.

I even had an Evertonian on the phone this morning saying they were all dead happy leaving Goodison, but as our match went on in the pub afterwards everyone was getting quieter, genuinely bricking it about what Liverpool might become in the next couple of seasons.

Now he's paranoid and fearing the worst, but he's got a point. When we've turned up since January we've looked as good as anyone, and for the first time in memory it hasn't been predicated on counter attacks, it's all based on quick passing, movement off the ball, and players who are really fucking good at controlling the ball and seeing options.
 
Even Messi gets marked out of games. It's fine, we still win the game and all they will achieve is to deprive their own fans of the chance to see Coutinho at his best.

We didn't when McManaman got marked out of games. Anyway, I really don't see the point of the comparison, he's a very, very, different player. McManaman had the team built around him and was given a free role, which was why it always went pear-shaped for Roy when someone like Howard Wilkinson got a player to man-mark McManaman. Coutinho isn't like him, except that he's also an attacking player. I just think you're straining to be contrary.
 
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