Antoine Semenyo
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However, we spent shitloads in Summer that @Beamrider reckons we will struggle to live with and now it seems the £35m of instantly bankable cash we were expecting to help balance the books this summer is not happening.
I suspect we are not in a position to buy
Of all the transfers I think he’s the most likely to come here. Seems a man of faith, principle and keeps his word.
Oh dear. What a cluster fuck. If true.
I think that’s from what you call «independent Liverpool journalists». In other words people with to much free time and a craving for followers and likes.
Guehi won’t leave in January. Would be a massive surprise if he does.
Probably but also plausible especially guven state of Palace and Glasner confirmation.
For context, and some of this is repeating what I've said previously, I don't think this one is likely because:
1. Press rumours are that the release clause only applies for a brief period in January and expires before our game at Marseille (and if we win that, we'd be confident of qualifying for the next phase of the CL, earning a big wedge and being better placed to spend). You could also potentially throw into the equation that if we were planning / willing to sell Mo this window then the timing on that doesn't really work either (if it happens, it'll probably be after he's back from AFCON).
2. Again, press rumours, but it sounds like City are ahead of us here, so we are in a Caiceido type situation, which didn't end well last time.
3. It's now clear we're not getting a fee for Harvey this year (which was probably paying for Guehi anyway), so our expected cash flow will be down. Also affecting cash flow, we've been shit, as has been covered elsewhere at great length. Although we will probably have budgeted only for CL qualification and staying in this year's CL for one tie after the group stage.
4. From our bargaining position, we'd probably be looking for more favourable payment terms than City, which will make us less attractive to Bournemouth, which means...
5. In order for force Bournemouth's hand to sell to us, we'd have to have really sold the player on coming to us rather than elsewhere, and it doesn't feel like that has happened (a la Moises Caiceido). We don't have the Klopp factor any more. It would really help if City were to get fucked over on 115/130 in the next 24 hours (not happening, obvs), because that's the only reason why I, as not a fan of either team, would choose us over them.
So, I just don't see it (although I'd quite like to be wrong as I like him as a player).
1. Press rumours are that the release clause only applies for a brief period in January and expires before our game at Marseille (and if we win that, we'd be confident of qualifying for the next phase of the CL, earning a big wedge and being better placed to spend). You could also potentially throw into the equation that if we were planning / willing to sell Mo this window then the timing on that doesn't really work either (if it happens, it'll probably be after he's back from AFCON).
2. Again, press rumours, but it sounds like City are ahead of us here, so we are in a Caiceido type situation, which didn't end well last time.
3. It's now clear we're not getting a fee for Harvey this year (which was probably paying for Guehi anyway), so our expected cash flow will be down. Also affecting cash flow, we've been shit, as has been covered elsewhere at great length. Although we will probably have budgeted only for CL qualification and staying in this year's CL for one tie after the group stage.
4. From our bargaining position, we'd probably be looking for more favourable payment terms than City, which will make us less attractive to Bournemouth, which means...
5. In order for force Bournemouth's hand to sell to us, we'd have to have really sold the player on coming to us rather than elsewhere, and it doesn't feel like that has happened (a la Moises Caiceido). We don't have the Klopp factor any more. It would really help if City were to get fucked over on 115/130 in the next 24 hours (not happening, obvs), because that's the only reason why I, as not a fan of either team, would choose us over them.
So, I just don't see it (although I'd quite like to be wrong as I like him as a player).
Or maybe to Trojan XL ?
They’ll be some some killjoy whingeing about them in another thread but thanks 😀🤓
The masks ARE shit but I'm loving the fireworks
So, Semenyo and (probs) Guehi to City then. That ended well.
hughes and his boys need to pull some gems out of their arse if we’re not landing this lad or guehi in particular. the obvious criticism is how hard has it actually been for them buying players for massive/record fees?
i’m sure @Beamrider is going to educate me that’s it’s actually really fucking hard but the unearthing or scouting, building relations, deals up your sleeve or on the long finger type pipeline we need to demonstrate now to get more value and be in pole position when an attractive deal arises.
i’m sure @Beamrider is going to educate me that’s it’s actually really fucking hard but the unearthing or scouting, building relations, deals up your sleeve or on the long finger type pipeline we need to demonstrate now to get more value and be in pole position when an attractive deal arises.
Guehi is coming, relax lads.
I don't think it's that hard to find the talent, but at youth level it's hard to recruit and stay within the rules. Broadly, no payments to players under 17, or their parents. The constant refrain was "but Man City have offered us.....". It seemed like one of their favourite routes was to have families set up companies which carried out minimal activity yet managed to earn lots of money (from City or businesses affiliated to them), so every kid at City has a Mum or Dad who runs a nail bar or cleaning business. Allegedly. And they all go to a local fee-paying grammar school which City pay for (although we do that to some extent by paying a local school to run a separate class for each cohort of kids, working around their training schedules).
But even when you've recruited those kids, they need a pathway to first team football, and that's an area where we haven't been that successful. Only the really exceptional ones make it (Trent, Fowler, Owen, Gerrard) and the ones that could go either way (Harvey, Marsh, Thompson etc) struggle. Jones is somewhere in the middle of those two groups, and for me he'll always be a squaddie, he's not good enough to command a permanent place in the side, but he's good enough to do the job when others aren't available or we need to change it up. Conor is sitting somewhere between Jones and the guaranteed starters.
As for first team recruitment, I've talked previously about the need for players who can go straight in (so Virgil wasn't quite ready when he left Celtic, for example) but building the relationships to do those deals is a long game, which means it isn't easy. Hughes was brought in on the basis that he'd already done the job elsewhere and brought relationships with him, and that's the key to it - the relations are with the people, not the clubs. If anything, club to club is a negative, hence it's rare for us to do deals with the Manchester clubs and Everton, if we're buying from the UK it's usually non big-six.
And the only way around that long game is money. Lots of money.
Not necessarily.
The contract he agreed at the deadline will be rejected by his team now. Even in January.
Several reports on X claiming Real Madrid are keen to sign Guehi.
I’m keen on Kiera Knightly. Maybe there’s hope for us all
I defo want Guehi to join ASAP, but also braced for how different he will look in a back 4 vs a back 5. BRACE.