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Swansea left back - according to the telegraph both us and Spurs going for £10 million bids
 
very decent option but Aspas to Sevilla re-opens the possibilities for Moreno me thinks.
 
Whats he like? Is he a very under the radar but good solid type of full back, ala Steve Finnan? Or is he more adventurous? I can't say I've really noticed him before at Swansea.
 
I'd rather have Davies than Moreno.

Davies has been very good for Swansea and is a talented player. Young, decent pace, good defender and schooled in the Swansea possession football. 10 mill for him is worth a chance.
 
Reasonably quick, gets forward a lot, decent cross and occasional shot
 
Decent read:


Ben Davies: Scout ReportBy Matthew Harrison on May 29, 2013@mophead_88
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“Sometimes I just have to remind people how inexperienced Ben is. He has been so good, there’s a real danger he is just taken for granted and you forget his age.” Michael Laudrup on Ben Davies

My hometown club, Merthyr Town FC, play in the Evo-Stik Southern Football League Division One South & West. The club is quite well known in non-league circles and has a great ground for the level of football they play at – Penydarren Park. When I’m back at home I always try to go and watch Merthyr Town play and whilst home for my holidays over the summer months of last year, I made such a trip to Penydarren Park to watch Merthyr Town take on the U21s of the team I support, Swansea City. I was looking forward to seeing the future of Swansea, but in all fairness Swansea were dire yet somehow defeated a plucky Merthyr Town 3-2. This was to be the first time I would ever see Ben Davies play and I have to say he was quite anonymous. Little was I to realise then, that the left back would go onto be one of Swansea’s stars of the upcoming season.

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During the summer months, the nation was gripped by the 2012 London Olympics. Not exactly the highlight of everyone’s Olympics, but naturally I took a keen interest in the Olympic football especially with Team GB having several Swansea players in the squad. Over the competition Swansea left-back Neil Taylor really shone and many people, who may have missed his excellent performances for the Swans over the 2011-12 season, began to take notice of the young North-Walian. There was no chance of anyone displacing Taylor as Swansea’s first choice left back. However, in the Swans second home game of the season, Taylor fell victim to a Craig Gardner challenge which broke his ankle and ruled him out for almost the entirety of the season. Swansea’s fans mourned the loss of one of their key players. There was a further sense of panic as the injury had occurred the day after the transfer window had closed and Swansea had very little cover in full back areas – fans called out for an emergency loan signing, yet forgetting the 6 minute cameo a young full back had made only a week before.

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Ironically, Davies replaced Taylor as a substitute in Swansea’s first home game in a 3-0 win over West Ham, as Laudrup looked to rest Taylor following his summer of Olympic football. Regardless of such a brief appearance on his debut, the line “That young kid Davies did well when he came on for Taylor” could be heard around Swansea post match, as fans reflected and dissected their accomplished 3-0 victory over the Hammers.

Davies had been with the club though the youth ranks and the teenage defender even spent a spell playing for Danish club Viborg FF on route to earning his first professional contract for Swansea. Neath born Davies signed his first professional contract with the club in the summer of 2011, just as the club were about to embark on their maiden season in the Premier League. Davies would never make an appearance in the Premier League under Brendan Rodgers and instead he would be prevalent in the club’s reserve team throughout the 2011/12 season, where he impressed nonetheless. July 2012 would see Davies awarded with a new two-year contract just as Swansea’s Laudrup era was kicking off. I doubt Laudrup could have envisaged then the impact Davies was to have on the histroy-making season the club was about to embark on.

Following Taylor’s unfortunate injury, Laudrup headed straight into the free transfer market and bought the former Twente full back Dwight Tiendalli. In Swansea’s first Taylor-less game, a trip to Villa Park, the fans were expecting to see the new Dutchman in the starting lineup, but Laudrup gave Davies a huge vote of confidence by placing him in the team for his first ever senior start. Since that day Davies has been virtually unmoved from his left back role, partly due to the excellent performance he put in at Villa Park that afternoon (I even singled him out for praise in my blog about my trip to Villa Park that very day).

Of course, Neil Taylor had also very much secured himself as the first choice left back for the Welsh national team since his ascendancy from Wrexham to Swansea and into a top class Premier League full back; however, Davies has also seized Taylor’s spot as Wales’ first choice left back and made it very much his own. Having not made his debut for the Wales national team until September 2012, Davies now finishes the 2012/2013 season with 5 full international caps to his name. Taylor is going to have a hell of a battle to reclaim his first team berth back next season that is for sure – for club and country.

Ben Davies featured in our list of 100 Best Young Players to Watch-out for in 2014. He was at #21 in our list of defenders. See the entire list here.

Style, Strengths & Weaknesses
The exciting thing about Ben Davies is that he seems to get better week by week. The few early signs of weakness he displayed are already ironed out by the young Welshman, undoubtedly thanks to his unerring desire to improve his game. I’m sure Davies would have been well aware that a slip in performance and work ethic would have seen Taylor reclaim his first team spot on returning to the squad; not forgetting that Tiendalli was a Dutch title winning full back who was impressing with his sporadic starts and appearances from the bench and who was ready to take his place at the first sign of a dip in form. That dip in form was never to come. Perhaps the greatest quality Davies has demonstrated throughout his maiden season is his unbelievable consistency. Swansea fans could quite easily count how many mistakes the young Welshmen has made this season on one hand – in fact, probably on 1 or 2 fingers. This more impressive when you consider that despite his age and inexperience, Davies has featured in 43 games for Swansea this season and has shown little to no sign of burnout. Davies has almost become a reflection of Laudrup’s persona: whilst Laudrup is calmness personified on the touchline and in front of the media, you will not find a calmer, more composed character on the field than Davies.

It is now a compulsory factor at Swansea City that to play for them you have to know how to pass the ball – accurately and a lot. Despite his inexperience, Davies easily settled into the ‘Swansea Way’, thanks to his years in the youth ranks where the young prospects are now coached to fit in with the club’s playing ethos (a legacy of the Roberto Martinez era). Davies finished the season with a highly commendable 83% pass accuracy (1267 completed passes out of a staggering 1525 passes) with the majority of his passes being forward passes – a sign of the tactical shift at Swansea from the Rodgers era to the Laudrup era.

The area where Taylor supposedly trumped his younger compatriot was in going forward and attacking from the full back position. Taylor demonstrated in his first two seasons at Swansea that he was a potent attacking threat from left back with his speed and excellent crossing ability. As for Davies, early signs were that he was a far more defensive-minded full back than Taylor with the youngster still looking tentative about surging forward. However, as the Christmas period approached, Davies had developed into an attacking threat. Although maybe not as a accurate a crosser as Taylor, Davies found himself regularly marauding into the opposition’s half to link with the attack. Davies’ runs forward became a crucial factor to the Swansea game plan as Laudrup converted Swansea’s attacking line into a more narrow and penetrative shape; the full backs, Davies and Rangel, were essential for the team to provide any sort of real width. By the season’s close, it was hard to decide who was the more impressive attacking full back: Davies or Taylor. The youngster has come on massively.

In recent interviews, Laudrup has further demonstrated how highly he rates Davies by stating that he believes that Davies could go on to be a top class centre back and claiming that that’s where the youngster should be playing further down his career path. Laudurp hailed the defender’s excellent game-reading abilities and the aforementioned coolness he possesses as the traits that could distinguish him as a future top flight centre back – obviously not mentioning his all round technical ability.

Remember, this lad is not even 20 yet! Surely, there’s even more to come from Ben Davies.

Transfer Situation
There is no doubt in my mind that Ben Davies will remain a Jack for the next couple of seasons. However, I do not really understand how there is so little speculation surrounding him. As you may have guessed by now, I prefer Davies over Taylor (it’s a very tough decision though) and with Taylor being linked to Newcastle and Arsenal amongst others since he joined Swansea from Wrexham, I can’t see why Davies should not be linked with such teams (although, of course I’m glad he isn’t!) I regularly see huge price tags brandished around in relation to Luke Shaw and the big clubs eyeing him up, yet I see Davies as very much Shaw’s equal or if anything better than the Southampton youngster (perhaps slight bias kicking in there though).

Next season, Swansea will embark on their first conquest into Europe since the days when they were allowed to play in the Welsh Cup, and they will have to utilise every member of their squad to avoid ‘doing a Newcastle’. Undoubtedly, Laudrup will need to be be using and rotating all four full backs, Rangel, Tiendalli, Davies and a fully recovered Taylor, so I find it almost impossible that the club would even entertain any sort of transfer for the precocious Davies, unless it was truly crazy money.
 
Whats he like? Is he a very under the radar but good solid type of full back, ala Steve Finnan? Or is he more adventurous? I can't say I've really noticed him before at Swansea.

Finnan's not a wayward comparison, he's quite similar in style though probably a bit quicker and more direct.
 
Yep, big fan of Davies. Talented, quick, reads the game well, gets forward, assertive, young, not a lot to dislike.

Plus, he's 21 and has played 71 games in the Premier League.

Bertrand, the fucking vanilla cunt, is 25 in a few weeks and has only played 38 PL games.

Can you guess who I'd prefer??
 
Yep, big fan of Davies. Talented, quick, reads the game well, gets forward, assertive, young, not a lot to dislike.

Plus, he's 21 and has played 71 games in the Premier League.

Bertrand, the fucking vanilla cunt, is 25 in a few weeks and has only played 38 PL games.

Can you guess who I'd prefer??

I'm sold, I thought he was much older. At £10million, yes please.
 
Anyone who watches both -- Davies or Moreno? Transfer fee and wages notwithstanding.

I've not seen alot of Moreno, but reports, videos etc aren't impressive, certainly not for £20m. Davies at half the price and with Premiership experience and top quality performances, is a no brainer. I think he's the most feasible, best priced, sound option. That's not to underplay his quality either, I think he'd be a player who would nail his place in the side for a good few years.
 
Anyone who watches both -- Davies or Moreno? Transfer fee and wages notwithstanding.

I haven't, but at this stage, needing to prevent another 10-15 goals a season, which would leave us only 15-20 goals to add up front to account for Suarez's absence, I'd prefer a very solid defensive-minded FB (and Lovren) and Davies looks and sounds like that .. and a bit more.
 
Anyone who watches both -- Davies or Moreno? Transfer fee and wages notwithstanding.


Depends whether your preference is defence or attack. Moreno looks much better going forward, Davies much better at actually defending.

Personally I'd still be tempted to try for Rodriguez, or at least Rojo.
 
I'm a Davies fan, i think he's very underrated in the premiership. I'm surprised no one has gone in for him sooner. I BIG TIME prefer him over Moreno that's for sure. He'd be cheaper and more importantly BETTER defensively.
 
He has played constantly pretty much since Neil Taylor broke his ankle badly just after the Olympics. That's two years now, I'm not sure if that says Taylor never returned to his previous levels or Davies is just the better player but he's looked pretty solid and Finnan-like most of the time.

The fact Taylor is still there might also make Davies easier to sign. I'd definitely have him depending on price.
 
I've not seen alot of Moreno, but reports, videos etc aren't impressive, certainly not for £20m. Davies at half the price and with Premiership experience and top quality performances, is a no brainer. I think he's the most feasible, best priced, sound option. That's not to underplay his quality either, I think he'd be a player who would nail his place in the side for a good few years.

I haven't, but at this stage, needing to prevent another 10-15 goals a season, which would leave us only 15-20 goals to add up front to account for Suarez's absence, I'd prefer a very solid defensive-minded FB (and Lovren) and Davies looks and sounds like that .. and a bit more.

The Finnan comparison is assuring. And yeah, if we have Marvokic, Sterling, Sturridge, Lallana, Coutinho and another pacey skillful attacker leading the line, we can afford to have the fullbacks attack less and focus on conceding fewer goals.

Depends whether your preference is defence or attack. Moreno looks much better going forward, Davies much better at actually defending.

Personally I'd still be tempted to try for Rodriguez, or at least Rojo.


Rodriguez is probably the fans' unanimous pick. Rojo looks good from what little I have seen of him in the WC.
 
So then from what I read, Davies is the majority local pick at less than half the Moreno price. Get in.
 
Rojo has looked excellent in the world cup. A nice blend of attacking and defending prowess, allied to pace and tenacity.
 
Rojo had a mixed game last night. Never seemed to have the ball fully under control when he advanced with it and put in some poor final balls. He has looked decent in previous games though. Also DAT RABONA.

All over Ben Davies for LB. Very assured defender and capable attacker.
 
Rojo had a mixed game last night. Never seemed to have the ball fully under control when he advanced with it and put in some poor final balls. He has looked decent in previous games though.

Yep, agree with that. I haven't seen anything exceptional at all.
 
The sad thing is that the few reliable ones on Twitter are saying Bertrand is all but done.

Maybe we are selling Enrique and are buying two left backs..
 
Injurywise or skillwise?
He hasn't done anything for you to lose confidence in him skilkwise

Because he's very inconsistent, and not inconsistent like normal people where he'll have a few good games and a few bad ones. His inconsistency is literally minute to minute. He can be amazing one second and then lose his head the next.
 
I like Enrique but I'm not quite sure Rodgers fancies him long-term. Is he coachable? Enrique seems to do his own thing regardless of what he is told. Carragher also alluded to this on Sky.

No surprise we are linked to LB this summer. I would def keep Enrique for back up and healthy competition. I'm against Betrand signing as I don't see him as a major improvement on Enrique.
 
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