The Thursday/Sunday thing fucks it. If it was Thursday/Monday it would be much better. With CL qualification it id definitely worth winning.
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All depends how much gets put back in of course, and who is available. Money certainly isn't a good parameter of success, anyway
It's almost as if even the hacks are too bored by the Europa League to criticise it. I don't think I've ever watched a final, I couldn't tell you any of the winners and I couldn't care less. It must raise oodles of cash for UEFA but it's an outrageous strain on clubs and players. That competition and the meaningless friendly internationals we get these days deserve to be chopped. There's a place for a secondary European competition but it should just consist of knockout games over two legs.
Yeah, the Thursday night thing does pretty much kill it, and the sheer length of the competition. Is there any reason the legs couldn't just be played on the Wednesdays between the CL ties? Or has the ridiculous new scheduling of those rounds more or less killed that option?
It should be a vibrant competition - there are loads of young, emerging, or just good but flawed, teams in Europe, certainly enough to produce lots of exciting rounds. *If* it was set up in such a way that they actually cared to bother with it.
It should be a vibrant competition - there are loads of young, emerging, or just good but flawed, teams in Europe, certainly enough to produce lots of exciting rounds. *If* it was set up in such a way that they actually cared to bother with it.
Yep, agree that it attracts big players. As does getting fourth as it would also means champion league next year and the means to pay for those big players we all want.
Cl next year is crucial.
So for me it's all about which way fives us the best odds of getting in. Staying I'm the Europa league and pushing for fourth? I don't think we have the squad. So it's down to Europa or the league. I think we have more chance of getting fourth. So am I arsed about dropping out? No. Will I be if we don't get fourth? Yep. Just like I would have been in we pushed for the Europa league to lose at the end and not grab fourth because we prioritised Europe.
Is it a great trophy to win? Is it bollokcs? Most the lfc fans I know of only mention it because of the manner in which we won in the final. Otherwise is all about Istanbul, the league and the fa cup.
Ever wonder why it's on itv4?
My point is there are only four trophies to play for at the start of every season. Not 24. Winning anything is a huge achievement. Look at the way Chelski celebrated yesterday. I can't stand this attitude that a trophy is somehow second rate just because the media keep going on about it being so. They are twats who know fuck all. Being ion Dortmund was epic, and one of the finest trips I've ever taken. If you think the league cup or Europa cup don't mean anything then we can only politely disagree.
I'd rather win a trophy and qualify for a more prestigious tournament, rather than just qualify for that tournament
Obviously if I was ranking trophies, I'd put europa behind others, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do everything we can to win it.
The fact we turned up and didn't even try pisses me off no end
Obviously if I was ranking trophies, I'd put europa behind others, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do everything we can to win it.
The fact we turned up and didn't even try pisses me off no end
Totally agree. Winning the UEFA cup or cup winner's cup was worthy. It's still a trophy and I'd still love to win in. There are only four to go four every season. And Warsaw would have been ace. But a knock out-only set up would be much better. The group stages is utterly pointless.
Of course they mean something, they mean a lot. But, in the grand scheme of things, when we don't have the kinda resources that the more affluent teams have, we still can't push at full tilt on all fronts, I'm my opinion. Which is why I think being out of the Europa is a blessing. I think we will get fourth at least now. Don't think we would have gotten fourth or won the Europa whilst pushing for both. I think one had to give and I'd rather the Europa.
Do I think it's a great cup to win? Nope. But would I want us to win it? Hell yeah. Same for the league cup. Its just the expense that it would have come at that bothered me mate.
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