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Bite, Nibble, Munch and Chomp

I don't' think they are .. they are just trying to put it into reasonable perspective, which the rabid British press, opposition supporters and politicians etc. don't / won't do because they have their own agendas (and not against Suarez personally but to sell newspapers / ingratiate themselves with voters or weaken an LFC that threatened to win the PL last season).

I've heard so many opposition supporters take the same stance as many of us ... It needs punishing but it's not a leg breaking tackle etc ... Heck, my Manc mate at work said he gets it's wrong etc but you'd think he fucking killed someone the way they're going about it ... A manc ... and he's still mocking me daily about the slip the cunt.
 
I think I know the reason that there is a media frenzy about Suarez in the UK but not in the rest of the world. It's all about football tribalism. Most sports journalists and most members of the public support clubs other than Liverpool. So Luis has given them a golden opportunity to get stuck in to him - which advances the cause of their own clubs.
 
Perspective?

[article=http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/worldcup/luis-suarez-bite-lets-move-past-the-shock-value-and-get-some-perspective-9563690.html]Luis Suarez bite: Let’s move past the shock value and get some perspective

Glenn Moore

Danny Mills would send him to jail, Alan Shearer would ban him worldwide for “as long as I could”, which under Fifa statutes is two years. What heinous crime could Luis Suarez have committed to prompt such a response from two players who were not exactly shrinking violets on the field?

He bit someone.

He did not fix a match, which strikes at the very heart of sport. He did not use performance-enhancing drugs, which is the most insidious form of cheating. He did not go over the top and break an opponent’s leg, or shatter an opponent’s nose or cheekbone with an elbow. He did not attack a referee (he has done that, head-butting an official, but that was 11 years ago when he was playing youth team football at 16 and he received a long ban).

In my mind these are all worse acts than biting an opponent, especially given it was in the heat of the moment, and he did not pursue the act long enough to draw blood.

What he did was disgusting and horrible, sets a terrible example and would be deeply unpleasant to be a victim of. But Giorgio Chiellini played on. If Suarez had broken his leg with a reckless, even premeditated tackle (it happens) he would have been out until Christmas.

Suarez needs psychiatric help, not a jail sentence. He deserves to be banned, ideally for the duration of the World Cup with a longer sentence suspended on condition he has professional treatment, but is his offence really deserving of a longer ban than a player who has threatened the livelihood of another? It is the shock value, and the recidivism, which has accounted for the publicity and outrage.

There is also, clearly, a cultural issue. In Italy, according to a SkyItalia reporter, they are more interested in assessing who is to blame for the Azzurri being out of the World Cup at the group stage (Mario Balotelli appears to be receiving more blame than Suarez). In Brazil the incident seems to be regarded as comedy rather than horror.

In England, however, Suarez is beyond the pale. Diving, biting, cheating: he fits our stereotype of the South American footballing bad guy, the latest in a long line stretching back past Diego Maradona to Antonio Rattin. There is also a place, it should be said, for lovable South Americans, such as Ossie Ardiles, Gus Poyet, and all things Brazilian.

And yet, if the behaviour of Uruguayan Suarez is so reprehensible, how is it Dylan Hartley is still being picked for England’s rugby union team? The hooker was banned for eight weeks for biting the finger of Ireland’s Steven Ferris in a Six Nations international in 2012 – and a finger is rather more vulnerable than a shoulder. Nor was it his first, or last, offence. In 2007 Hartley was banned for six months for eye gouging, which, considering the possible consequences, is far worse than nibbling on a shoulder. He was also banned for punching an opponent and for abusing a referee. Last week this serial offender started for England against New Zealand, his 56th cap. No one seemed to be outraged.[/article]
 
Im with Ryan and Rosco on this one to be honest.
He has bitten human beings, doing their jobs. THREE times.
Thats mad isnt it?
Like actual madness.
A 10 game ban (which some here would suggest was a media driven corrupt FA overreaction) has not deterred him from biting ANOTHER human being!

Think about that for a second. You cant say that the punishment last time was too much anymore can you? It did nothing, he just went out and did it again.

Hes a fucking nutbar.
When it first happened I thought it was almost funny.
It isnt though is it? He keeps biting people. Children do that, tiny infants who dont know any better.
And he is never going to learn. Ever.
He thinks that his actions are ok. He clearly does.
So he needs a punishment of epic proportions.
 
What ban do people think he deserves?

I would say 10-15 games is about right.

International games, yes about right ... and a huge fine. And no domestic ban (which would be castigating the club as much as Suarez and in this instance IMHO that would be unfair). I think however that he'll get a 3-6 game ban.
 
I've heard so many opposition supporters take the same stance as many of us ... It needs punishing but it's not a leg breaking tackle etc ... Heck, my Manc mate at work said he gets it's wrong etc but you'd think he fucking killed someone the way they're going about it ... A manc ... and he's still mocking me daily about the slip the cunt.

On RedCafe (Manca, Blues, CFC and Arse fans) the general theme is they want him slaughtered - a total ban from all football for 1 or 2 years or even a life ban !
 
On RedCafe (Manca, Blues, CFC and Arse fans) the general theme is they want him slaughtered - a total 1, 2 year or life ban !

Internet tough guys ... OOOOOH ... I've changed my mind - on that list I gave to Ryan that he ignored, I'll take the Witsel leg break. I'm a tough guy too! 🙂
 
I'm glad Ryan you wouldn't answer my original post though ... Now I feel like Dreamy did when he posted all those lovely stats re: Bitey to Ross.

You feel like you totally misinterpreted Ryan's comment and spent ages arguing against a point that he didn't make?
 
I cant be arsed Wiz. Read the last 5 pages.
Its really not worth getting into a debate about.
If you and Mark dont think focusing on a media witchhunt, the british press, Chiellini having a scar, Other players misdemeanours (which is a consistent theme through the thread) etc is directly or indirectly defending Suarez then what exactly would be the point in me continuing.
I know you dont like my stance of 'I just dont give a fuck what anyone else thinks' when it comes to things like this but its the truth.
Its not worth the effort of a debate. 'Go and find quotes'
Grow up.
 
I cant be arsed Wiz. Read the last 5 pages.
Its really not worth getting into a debate about.
If you and Mark dont think focusing on a media witchhunt, the british press, Chiellini having a scar, Other players misdemeanours (which is a consistent theme through the thread) etc is directly or indirectly defending Suarez then what exactly would be the point in me continuing.
I know you dont like my stance of 'I just dont give a fuck what anyone else thinks' when it comes to things like this but its the truth.
Its not worth the effort of a debate. 'Go and find quotes'
Grow up.

Chiellini's scar was evident in Juve's title celebrations - that doesn't negate the fact he was bitten.

I haven't defended once the 'media witchhunt' or the British press - I don't really care.

It's not worth efforts because I don't really see them - and neither do you.

@Best Believe It's earlier article says it fine ... put it in proportion. No one is defending the action, or the fact he deserves a ban (& serious physiological help) ... That you think they are is as ridiculous as the supposed Uruguay's lawyer's position on this.
 
You feel like you totally misinterpreted Ryan's comment and spent ages arguing against a point that he didn't make?

Oh he's making the point ... Just like you went on and on about Suarez's goals etc and Dreamy's stats didn't even get a response from you ...
 
Well no Wiz, no one could come out and say he didnt bite him could they?
Or that biting was ok?
So how else would one defend their player?
Hmmmmm thats a toughie.
 
Oh he's making the point ... Just like you went on and on about Suarez's goals etc and Dreamy's stats didn't even get a response from you ...

Because my starting point was not all goals are equal. And Dreamy gave them all the same value.

Apples and oranges.

Anyway, back to the point quite why anybody gives a shit how long our buck toothed Bitey cunt gets banned for is beyond me.

It does not affect the club you support.
 
I think people are getting confused by defending him and not really caring or being that upset about a bite.

Is biting someone on a football pitch a bit mental? No question. Am I offended by it? No.

The bringing up of all of footballs past indiscretions is merely to provide some context to the absurdity of casting Suarez as football's #1 all-time villain. He's not. He's just a bit nuts, as we all keep saying.

I'm concerned about what this means for Liverpool, but that's my only angle. Apart from that I couldn't really give a shit about the fact that he's had a little nibble and I'm honestly surprised that people are getting so worked up about this... oh, but he's done it "THREE TIMES", in caps so we can all really feel the strength of the message. Yeah, I get it. He's done it three times. I still don't give a shit.

Let's all pretend that we're all great people, living in a great world, football is a sport that upholds all the values that are good in this world and everyone involved in it are bastions of morality. It's not like it's corrupt to the bone and many of the people that inhabit that world are total scumbags. Suarez bit someone THREE TIMES. The world has ended.
 
I think Glen Hoddle has it about right btw, he has just suggested a lengthy ban (thats a given right?)
and the threat of a lifetime ban if he re-offends. He cant keep biting people.
 
I think people are getting confused by defending him and not really caring or being that upset about a bite.

Is biting someone on a football pitch a bit mental? No question. Am I offended by it? No.

The bringing up of all of footballs past indiscretions is merely to provide some context to the absurdity of casting Suarez as football's #1 all-time villain. He's not. He's just a bit nuts, as we all keep saying.

I'm concerned about what this means for Liverpool, but that's my only angle. Apart from that I couldn't really give a shit about the fact that he's had a little nibble and I'm honestly surprised that people are getting so worked up about this... oh, but he's done it "THREE TIMES", in caps so we can all really feel the strength of the message. Yeah, I get it. He's done it three times. I still don't give a shit.

Let's all pretend that we're all great people, living in a great world, football is a sport that upholds all the values that are good in this world and everyone involved in it are bastions of morality. It's not like it's corrupt to the bone and many of the people that inhabit that world are total scumbags. Suarez bit someone THREE TIMES. The world has ended.
Great post and mirrors my thoughts exactly.
 
I think people are getting confused by defending him and not really caring or being that upset about a bite.

Is biting someone on a football pitch a bit mental? No question. Am I offended by it? No.

The bringing up of all of footballs past indiscretions is merely to provide some context to the absurdity of casting Suarez as football's #1 all-time villain. He's not. He's just a bit nuts, as we all keep saying.

I'm concerned about what this means for Liverpool, but that's my only angle. Apart from that I couldn't really give a shit about the fact that he's had a little nibble and I'm honestly surprised that people are getting so worked up about this... oh, but he's done it "THREE TIMES", in caps so we can all really feel the strength of the message. Yeah, I get it. He's done it three times. I still don't give a shit.

Let's all pretend that we're all great people, living in a great world, football is a sport that upholds all the values that are good in this world and everyone involved in it are bastions of morality. It's not like it's corrupt to the bone and many of the people that inhabit that world are total scumbags. Suarez bit someone THREE TIMES. The world has ended.
Ken im actually with you, I dont give a fuck either as I said in my first post here, he cant be banned for us so its not really that much of an issue.
 
Well no Wiz, no one could come out and say he didnt bite him could they?
Or that biting was ok?
So how else would one defend their player?
Hmmmmm thats a toughie.

Who's said the biting was ok?
The biting was DISGUSTING, DISGRACEFUL and SAD (that a man can let himself do this).
Can you chalk me off the list please?
 
I cant be arsed Wiz. Read the last 5 pages.
Its really not worth getting into a debate about.
If you and Mark dont think focusing on a media witchhunt, the british press, Chiellini having a scar, Other players misdemeanours (which is a consistent theme through the thread) etc is directly or indirectly defending Suarez then what exactly would be the point in me continuing.
I know you dont like my stance of 'I just dont give a fuck what anyone else thinks' when it comes to things like this but its the truth.
Its not worth the effort of a debate. 'Go and find quotes'
Grow up.

God it must be so fucking great in the "too cool for school" club.
 
Because my starting point was not all goals are equal. And Dreamy gave them all the same value.

Apples and oranges.

Anyway, back to the point quite why anybody gives a shit how long our buck toothed Bitey cunt gets banned for is beyond me.

It does not affect the club you support.

He talked about game winning goals etc (which is what you went on about).

I don't think he'll be here with us (not sure how that will affect the team) ... and I'm not fussed that he'll get banned because he DESERVES it. You have to suffer the repercussions for your actions ...
 
On RedCafe (Manca, Blues, CFC and Arse fans) the general theme is they want him slaughtered - a total ban from all football for 1 or 2 years or even a life ban !
Paint me shocked, our rivals (and United, Arsenal and Everton) want our best player banned? Who'd have thunk it?
 
I think people are getting confused by defending him and not really caring or being that upset about a bite.

Is biting someone on a football pitch a bit mental? No question. Am I offended by it? No.

The bringing up of all of footballs past indiscretions is merely to provide some context to the absurdity of casting Suarez as football's #1 all-time villain. He's not. He's just a bit nuts, as we all keep saying.

I'm concerned about what this means for Liverpool, but that's my only angle. Apart from that I couldn't really give a shit about the fact that he's had a little nibble and I'm honestly surprised that people are getting so worked up about this... oh, but he's done it "THREE TIMES", in caps so we can all really feel the strength of the message. Yeah, I get it. He's done it three times. I still don't give a shit.

Let's all pretend that we're all great people, living in a great world, football is a sport that upholds all the values that are good in this world and everyone involved in it are bastions of morality. It's not like it's corrupt to the bone and many of the people that inhabit that world are total scumbags. Suarez bit someone THREE TIMES. The world has ended.

Sums it up for me ... No need to post here unless Ross & I discuss Dreamy's post! 😉
 
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