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Red Astaire said:
I know people are freaking out a bit and believe me I won't be laughing if he gets any kind of domestic ban but I still find it all quite funny. He's got the media apocalyptic with indignation. Some of the things I have heard are hilarious. My favourite being Collymore's take on it. He was (pardon the pun) practically frothing at the mouth with rage. Lifetime ban both internationally and domestically. Pleeeaaase! 🙄
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Apoplectic even.

I'm seeing fans from Portugal, Brazil and Uruguay saying that it's barely a footnote there in most cases. Britain (and the USA) however continues to go ape-shit ... nothing to do with opposition fans here maybe hoping this negatively impacts LFC and attempting to drive FA action in regard to domestic competitions of course.
 
Richey said:
Its like pundits are competing to come up with the most extreme punishment they can. Mills knew it was his turn and had to come up with something good.

'Long ban. No, no, the longest ban. Ever. Hmmm, not that's not hit hard enough. For all matches, everywhere. Even with his kids in the park. No football at all. Just worldwide though. That's a risk. Ok, jail. For life. And banned from the prison team too. Right, try to beat that one Shearer...'

It's all the pundits who were total cunts in their playing days as well, and they are saying these things without a hint of irony. Next up we'll have Ben Thatcher or Terry Hurlock saying that surely a public hanging is the only suitable punishment.
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It's part and parcel of the utter farce that is punditry these days. It's the same sphere that allows Robbie Savage to have a column about tactics, for heaven's sake.
 
LeTallecWiz said:
That ... or Keane's tackle ... or Cantona's karate kick ... or Maradona's kung fu kick etc etc ... What Suarez did is disgusting and ridiculous, and so 'out there' that it's becoming 'worse' than far worse assaults we've seen in recent times (Witsel breaking some guy's leg with a wreckless tackle etc) ... Give him an int'l ban for sure but the commotion this has caused you'd think he'd Keane'd Cheillini
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IMO *any* dangerous tackle, anything that might reasonably be expected to cause serious injury, is worse than what Suarez did.

Anything. That's the priority isn't it? People's actual safety?

So in a sane world there'd be more focus on Marchisio than Suarez.
 
I agree and disagree with the sentiment of most. Obviously what Suarez did isn't anywhere near as dangerous as some of the examples given. You can't really debate that.

But the thing is, using your feet, shoulders, elbows and head is how you play football, using your teeth isn't. It's so off the wall, that it should be punished harshly. He will do it again, I had been nearly convinced that he'd cleaned up his act after last season, but he hasn't and won't. It's the third time he's bitten someone, has anyone ever bit someone before? If they have, they certainly haven't done it three times.

He deserves a long ban, it's made a joke of the game, if it isn't already a joke already. I do think vindictive acts, like some of the ones above deserve long bans too.

Obviously I hope he doesn't get one, and he stays with us and scores loads. And I also think it was kinda funny that he did it, but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a long ban for it.
 
peterhague said:
IMO *any* dangerous tackle, anything that might reasonably be expected to cause serious injury, is worse than what Suarez did.

Anything. That's the priority isn't it? People's actual safety?

So in a sane world there'd be more focus on Marchisio than Suarez.
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But we shouldn't be looking at it in the same way - an elbow or a leg-breaking 'tackle' are attempts to injury another player without punishment by the ref. They're trying to take someone out of the game either through malice or calculation. The ideal end result for the perpetrator is that the person they're attacking is injured and they get away with it.

Suarez biting someone isn't an attempt to injure someone and get away with it, it's just a moment of frustration with a situation which manifests itself in pure twattish stupidity. He's not trying to incapacitate them with a bite, or gain some sort of footballing advantage, he's probably not even thinking about football at the moment, he just can't deal mentally with the situation and just loses the plot. It's not even masked as part of the game in the same way an elbow would be. The thing I would equate it to is spitting.
 
Also, as much as it does my head in, if you pay too much attention to the hypocrisy of people like Shearer saying it's the worse thing in football having kicked someone in the head, then you'll never stop, because football is rife with hypocrisy and general outrage.
 
Best Believe It said:
But we shouldn't be looking at it in the same way - an elbow or a leg-breaking 'tackle' are attempts to injury another player without punishment by the ref. They're trying to take someone out of the game either through malice or calculation. The ideal end result for the perpetrator is that the person they're attacking is injured and they get away with it.

Suarez biting someone isn't an attempt to injure someone and get away with it, it's just a moment of frustration with a situation which manifests itself in pure twattish stupidity. He's not trying to incapacitate them with a bite, or gain some sort of footballing advantage, he's probably not even thinking about football at the moment, he just can't deal mentally with the situation and just loses the plot. It's not even masked as part of the game in the same way an elbow would be. The thing I would equate it to is spitting.
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But I wasn't trying to equate them. I was just saying it's bizarre to prioritise one type of offence over another.
 
peterhague said:
But I wasn't trying to equate them. I was just saying it's bizarre to prioritise one type of offence over another.
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No, fair enough, I think I was making a point to the world at large.

EDIT: I think it's easier for FIFA to do though. There are far fewer spitting/biting offences in the game than there are elbows/dangerous fouls which makes it easier for FIFA/UEFA/The FA to make an example of the spitting/biting individual and try and make themselves look good in the process.
 
It was funny on the Beeb yesterday. Shearer made a 'joke' about it and Danny Murphy and Robbie Savage laughed, then Shearer suddenly remembered and said, 'But we shouldn't laugh about it' and they all went incredibly straight-faced and serious. There's a lot of that going on at the mo.
 
Remember when Reyes scored and his team mate Gallardo celebrated by biting him on the cock?

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A few thoughts. 1. It is a quite shocking thing to watch. Some find it funny - I can partly understand that, but its maybe like seeing your own child having a public tantrum - if its funny in a twisted way for others it should not be for us. I find this almost frightening, that he had so little self control that he actually ran towards Chiellini to do this - ie it was not a 1 second act of stupidity.
2. If it was the pressure of the situation that provoked this, why did it not happen when we lost to Chelsea, blew the Palace game? Why did it happen with Ivanovich?
3. If FIFA were to impose a club ban as well, maybe there would be issues with teams becoming reluctant to let their players play internationally. I would suggest that Liverpool have been doing a reasonable job in harnessing Suarez' less savoury side.
 
gkmacca said:
It was funny on the Beeb yesterday. Shearer made a 'joke' about it and Danny Murphy and Robbie Savage laughed, then Shearer suddenly remembered and said, 'But we shouldn't laugh about it' and they all went incredibly straight-faced and serious. There's a lot of that going on at the mo.
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Ha, yeah I saw that. It was 'three bites and you're out' or something like that. It was as if there was someone behind the camera holding up a sign saying 'THIS IS SERIOUS'
 
cloggypop said:
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Hope they do Danny Mills retrospectively. Nobody would remember him if he had not been such a violent cunt.
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His comments on Alan Pardew on the other hand:

He told the latest edition of the Football Club on Sky Sports News Radio: "What would a player get in this situation? A three-game ban. But it's a manager therefore maybe he has a little more responsibility so I think a touchline ban of between five and 10 games (would be fair).

"I don't think you can go more than that, you've got to be realistic. He was out of order, he shouldn't have done it, but it wasn't like he walked over and split his (Meyler's) nose. It was a coming together with emotions running high."

Mills also believes there has been a fair amount of overreaction to the incident.

"There are several issues which I object to," he said. "Several people have said this is disgraceful because kids will copy it but there's not one kid on the planet that will copy this. My 10-year-old came in on Sunday after watching it on the telly and said 'Alan Pardew was a bit stupid, wasn't he?'

"If you've got kids that are going around copying that, you've got to look at the kids and also the parenting. If they're bringing their kids up that they're going to copy things like that, that's wrong.

"The other thing I have a massive issue with is that people keep saying 'if this happened in the street he'd be arrested, he'd be locked up.'

"Football is not played in the street and it is different, as are most sports.

"We never get this issue with rugby. You get eye-gouging, you get punches thrown, you get stamping. Nobody ever says if that happened in the street you'd be locked up.

"What would you get for eye-gouging in the street? That's one of the worst things ever.

"If I booted a player or punched him for no apparent reason on the pitch I'd get a three-game ban and that would be it. If I did that in the street I'd be arrested.

"We've got to be realistic, this is a sporting venue and things happen inside grounds that do not happen out on the street. They're not bound by the same rules. Whether you like it or not, that's life.

"It doesn't condone what Alan Pardew did, it was still wrong, but I think we have to be careful not to turn it into a witch hunt."
 
One thing playing on my mind is the heavily rumoured comments on standard chartered saying that they were fuming about the suarez situation the first time & the club's response. If true that would mean their response this time will be robust at the least.

If Phil Thompson actually said that it is probably true, he has direct access to the club and the decision makers. However if he said it was just his opinion then it could be just that.
 
Decision could be made tonight according to one of the members on the disciplinary panel.
Says he's not surprised about what Suarez did as he's done it before. Good start.
 
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