Brewster's Millions..

[King Binny]

[article]Crystal Palace have emerged as favourites to sign Liverpool striker Rhian Brewster as the Premier League champions look to offload upto five players to offset spending.

Brewster has been a permanent transfer target for Palace and Sheffield United this summer, while West Brom have also been keen to sign 20-year-old the on loan.

It is understood Liverpool are willing to srike a deal with Palace, but are demanding a buy-back option and sell-on clause for £20m-rated Brewster.

The England youth international scored 11 goals in 22 appearances while on loan at Championship side Swansea City last season, but the forward does not feature in Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp's plans this season.

Divock Origi, Marko Grujic, Harry Wilson, Loris Karius, Nat Phillips, Yasser Larouci and Taiwo Awoniyi are among the other players who could be sold by the Reds to balance the books before the extended window closes next month.

Grujic is a target for Bundesliga side Borussia Monchengladbach while Origi has attracted interest from fellow Premier League club Brighton. [/article]

 

[Modo]

[article]Crystal Palace have emerged as favourites to sign Liverpool striker Rhian Brewster as the Premier League champions look to offload upto five players to offset spending.

Brewster has been a permanent transfer target for Palace and Sheffield United this summer, while West Brom have also been keen to sign 20-year-old the on loan.

It is understood Liverpool are willing to srike a deal with Palace, but are demanding a buy-back option and sell-on clause for £20m-rated Brewster.

The England youth international scored 11 goals in 22 appearances while on loan at Championship side Swansea City last season, but the forward does not feature in Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp's plans this season.

Divock Origi, Marko Grujic, Harry Wilson, Loris Karius, Nat Phillips, Yasser Larouci and Taiwo Awoniyi are among the other players who could be sold by the Reds to balance the books before the extended window closes next month.

Grujic is a target for Bundesliga side Borussia Monchengladbach while Origi has attracted interest from fellow Premier League club Brighton. [/article]

Can't blame them after Ayew's horrible finishing against Man U.

 

[Hansern]

Pearce reporting a bid of 25 mill, and that they agree to a buy back clause.

 

[Modo]

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Originally posted by Putitout


My problem with this deal is not Brewster,s ability. But what seems to be the widely reported conditions Liverpool are putting in to it. A buy back. And a sell on. And £20 mill.
Talk about have your cake and eat it.

The problem is Liverpool are in a position to implement those conditions, we, unfortunately are one of many clubs that have to accept them , if we want up and coming prospects. As and when our Academy starts producing this may not be the case. Until then, I fear, we must suck it up{/td}
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[Hansern]

19 mill + 6 mill add ons, and a buy back clause of 37 mill £, thats a decent deal that.

 

[6TimesaRed]

Modo/ Hansern start a new thread ffs.. im going to start initiating the ban stick soon..

Just friggen lazy..

Done for you.. again.

 

[peterhague]

James Pearce has tweeted that this is now gathering pace, Palace prepared to pay £25m and to include a buy back clause.

 

[Hansern]

Modo/ Hansern start a new thread ffs.. im going to start initiating the ban stick soon..

Just friggen lazy..

Done for you.. again.

Attica! Attica! Attica!

 

[Markeh]

Is this an admission that we can't get rid of origi?

I'm conflicted about whether Brewster is actually good enough. Part of me thinks he'd be spoken of in the same regard as Mason Greenwood, Martinelli or Neto if our front three weren't so good and he could actually get a game. However he doesn't seem to have much to his game aside from being a good 'traditional' striker which is key to our forward play.

I guess we'll find out how good he is if this goes through

 

[dmishra]

Buyback for 37 million? I mean that's not going to happen, unless he suddenly explodes to become a 60-80 million player.

What's the point of a buyback if it's substantially higher than the fee we're selling for.

 

[Modo]

Is this an admission that we can't get rid of origi?

I'm conflicted about whether Brewster is actually good enough. Part of me thinks he'd be spoken of in the same regard as Mason Greenwood, Martinelli or Neto if our front three weren't so good and he could actually get a game. However he doesn't seem to have much to his game aside from being a good 'traditional' striker which is key to our forward play.

I guess we'll find out how good he is if this goes through

No, it's an English kid on low wages. They know what they're getting from Origi.
Brewster is more of an unknown, it's just a more attractive deal imo.

 

[6TimesaRed]

Im fine with the deal it essentially a loan. They have been doing this approach in Spain for years.. Particular Barca and both Madrids..

As long as there is also a sell on clause inserted, say 15 - 20%. Job done as far as i'm concerned, great deal. Goes along way to protecting the clubs investment in this player..

 

[ibromurph]

Sky reporting 19m fee, 6m add ons, first refusal and 37m buy back clause.

Sounds like a fair deal to be honest. If he's what we think he is and develops to Zaha levels, 37m for a top class forward would be a snip.

 

[Hansern]

Buyback for 37 million? I mean that's not going to happen, unless he suddenly explodes to become a 60-80 million player.

What's the point of a buyback if it's substantially higher than the fee we're selling for.

Isnt that the point of the buy back? To give us a better deal if he becomes a great player, and the buying club a chance to earn some money for developing him. 12 mill £ is decent.

 

[6TimesaRed]

BBC reporting 19m fee, 6m add ons, first refusal and 37m buy back clause.

Sounds like a fair deal to be honest. If he's what we think he is and develops to Zaha levels, 37m for a top class forward would be a snip.

It needs also sell on clause inserted before we proceed..

 

[ibromurph]

Buyback for 37 million? I mean that's not going to happen, unless he suddenly explodes to become a 60-80 million player.

What's the point of a buyback if it's substantially higher than the fee we're selling for.

If he doesn't explode into a 37m player, we don't want him back! That's the point.

 

[Hansern]

It needs also sell on clause inserted before we proceed..

I think thats included aswell, if the reports are correct.

 

[ibromurph]

It needs also sell on clause inserted before we proceed..

Possibly. It's a desirable to cover off every eventuality.

But if he is going to be sold to Barca in 5 years for 100m.

We can do what Madrid did with Regullion. Buy him back from Palace for 37m and then sell him on to Barca for a tidy profit.

Obviously, if he's being sold to Barca for 40m, it might not be worth the hassle doing that and not having a sell on percentage will mean we get nothing.

Like I said, it's a desirable.

 

[peterhague]

19 mill + 6 mill add ons, and a buy back clause of 37 mill £, thats a decent deal that.

Except in the hardly improbable scenario whereby he goes on to fulfil his potential as a top class striker and he refuses to come back.

Then we'd just have been forced to sell a great young player because our owners are too fucking tight to help us out with a cash flow problem.

There's also the issue of how it looks to other potential young signings we want to make that we're willing to cash in so readily rather than give them a plausible route into the first team.

First Hoever, now Brewster. It's not going to go unnoticed.

 

[6TimesaRed]

Except in the hardly improbable scenario whereby he goes on to fulfil his potential as a top class striker and he refuses to come back.

Then we'd just have been forced to sell a great young player because our owners are too fucking tight to help us out with a cash flow problem.

There's also the issue of how it looks to other potential young signings we want to make that we're willing to cash in so readily rather than give them a plausible route into the first team.

First Hoever, now Brewster. It's not going to go unnoticed.

Or on the flip side Liverpool have given him the Berth to first team football.. That's essentially what players want..

If Liverpool have a system in place that makes that transition a whole lot easier whether it's for Liverpool or another team, that bodes well for both the player and Liverpool

Liverpool youth development is arguably one of the best in the country.. Young players are falling over themselves to join them

What's not to love about it ?

Again this goes on in Spain all the time, it is nothing more than a loan..

Liverpool won't get the money up front, it will be paid in installments, through the length of his contract.

 

[Modo]

Except in the hardly improbable scenario whereby he goes on to fulfil his potential as a top class striker and he refuses to come back.

Then we'd just have been forced to sell a great young player because our owners are too fucking tight to help us out with a cash flow problem.

There's also the issue of how it looks to other potential young signings we want to make that we're willing to cash in so readily rather than give them a plausible route into the first team.

First Hoever, now Brewster. It's not going to go unnoticed.

If they're good enough, they stay. Simple as.
How do we give young Hoever a route to the first team when he's got 2 young fullbacks ahead of him?
Brewster is 20 years old. He needs to be playing, other than that he needs stability. We can't keep loaning him out every year.
Wilson is next.
Our biggest talents are still with us. Neco, Jones and Elliott. I'm fine with that.

 

[ibromurph]

Except in the hardly improbable scenario whereby he goes on to fulfil his potential as a top class striker and he refuses to come back.

Then we'd just have been forced to sell a great young player because our owners are too fucking tight to help us out with a cash flow problem.

There's also the issue of how it looks to other potential young signings we want to make that we're willing to cash in so readily rather than give them a plausible route into the first team.

First Hoever, now Brewster. It's not going to go unnoticed.

Without game time, he's not developing here.

Sorry Pete, but you seem determined to moan about everything and anything lately.

If our owners don't spend immediately, you'll complain.

If Klopp doesn't complain about it, you'll say he's just being too nice.

When we do spend, you say it's about time.. and we're not buying the right players, or we're selling young superstars to pay for it.

When we get good deals on these young superstar, you say they may not want to come back to LFC.

How about a positive scenario, in which Klopp has analysed the squad and realised this is the best move for Rhian as he simply won't get game time here behind our world class front 3? And he's communicated to Rhian; that it's his best opportunity to develop right now. He simply won't at LFC for another 2-3 years, until our front 3 stop working.

He's in danger of becoming an Origi if he stays with us.

Right now, he can't even make the match day squad. Much less first 11.

 

[keniget]

If they're good enough, they stay. Simple as.
How do we give young Hoever a route to the first team when he's got 2 young fullbacks ahead of him?
Brewster is 20 years old. He needs to be playing, other than that he need stability. We can't keep loaning him out every year.
Wilson is next.
Our biggest talents are still with us. Neco, Jones and Elliott. I'm fine with that.

I was going to say something similar.

We are giving young players a chance in the team but there are only so many we can accommodate whilst challenging at the very top.

In terms of Brewster specifically, hopefully the decision to sell wasn't primarily motivated by financial reasons and everyone is parting ways on good terms.

 

[gkmacca]

He's in danger of becoming an Origi if he stays with us.

Right now, he can't even make the match day squad. Much less first 11.

He made the match day squad all through pre-season, and also came on in games and scored. Have you just woken up? He's only not made it since the idiot decision to open talks about selling him, as you well know. As for him being in danger of becoming another Origi, bollocks. If you want to act like some simpleminded PR puffer for FSG, you go ahead, but don't twist the truth to suit your genuflecting ambitions.

 

[Modo]

I was going to say something similar.

We are giving young players a chance in the team but there are only so many we can accommodate whilst challenging at the very top.

In terms of Brewster specifically, hopefully the decision to sell wasn't primarily motivated by financial reasons and everyone is parting ways on good terms.

I honestly think Brewster accepts it, but he'd rather stay. From what I've seen in interviews and other LFC programs he seems very integrated in the squad and has a few friends among the senior players.

 

[peterhague]

Or on the flip side Liverpool have given him the Berth to first team football.. That's essentially what players want..

If Liverpool have a system in place that makes that transition a whole lot easier whether it's for Liverpool or another team, that bodes well for both the player and Liverpool

Liverpool youth development is arguably one of the best in the country.. Young players are falling over themselves to join them

What's not to love about it ?

Again this goes on in Spain all the time, it is nothing more than a loan..

Liverpool won't get the money up front, it will be paid in installments, through the length of his contract.

What's not to love? How about it's not a loan?

It's up to him if he ever comes back.

 

[tombrown]

Why are people debating this at ll? Its Michael Edwards - whatever happens it will be a brilliant deal.

 

[Aidan O' Neill]

Buyback for 37 million? I mean that's not going to happen, unless he suddenly explodes to become a 60-80 million player.

What's the point of a buyback if it's substantially higher than the fee we're selling for.

Well they're hardly going to give us a lower buyback are they?

 

[peterhague]

Without game time, he's not developing here.

Sorry Pete, but you seem determined to moan about everything and anything lately.

If our owners don't spend immediately, you'll complain.

If Klopp doesn't complain about it, you'll say he's just being too nice.

When we do spend, you say it's about time.. and we're not buying the right players, or we're selling young superstars to pay for it.

When we get good deals on these young superstar, you say they may not want to come back to LFC.

How about a positive scenario, in which Klopp has analysed the squad and realised this is the best move for Rhian as he simply won't get game time here behind our world class front 3? And he's communicated to Rhian; that it's his best opportunity to develop right now. He simply won't at LFC for another 2-3 years, until our front 3 stop working.

He's in danger of becoming an Origi if he stays with us.

Right now, he can't even make the match day squad. Much less first 11.

It's clear that the owners only spent because we were planning to sell Brewster and Hoever, and probably some others.

So I don't really see what's changed.

We should not be in a position where we have to flog future stars just to refresh the squad.

 

[refugee]