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One of the nicest emails I've had recently came from a Mail on Sunday reader, telling me he had been on a cricket club tour to Menorca over Easter and stayed in the same hotel as a team representing our Liverpool Academy, who were over there playing in a tournament.
The reader took the trouble to let me know he thought our players should be 'commended on their appearance and impeccable behaviour' in the hotel and restaurant and went on to describe the group as polite and orderly.
It's comments like that about our young players who are in their mid-teens which have helped make me feel so proud to be appointed the manager of Liverpool Football Club this week.
Success on the field for a club with Liverpool's tradition and history is paramount, of course it is. But at the same time, there is no reason it should not go hand-in-hand with a philosophy of showing respect to others and being ambassadors off the field.
It's the way I was brought up by my parents, and my wife, Marina, was the same. If they're considered oldfashioned values, fair enough, but I still think they have a part to play in modern football as well as any other walk of life. It doesn't have to be detrimental to your ultimate desire to be successful. It's one of the things that has pleased me most in recent months.
It has become a well-known fact that I was on holiday aboard a cruise ship when I was asked to come back and help Liverpool in the short term. Fortunately for me, things have gone relatively well since then and on Thursday it became something more permanent.
Certainly, the year 2011 has been different for me! But what has given me extra satisfaction is being able to share my good news with the rest of the Dalglish family, knowing they have also enjoyed noteable achievements this year.
My son Paul, who now lives in Texas, has recently had twins, Kelly is expecting her second child later this year, Lynsey is getting married and Lauren is doing very well in her fashion career while the medical facility built with funds by Marina's cancer foundation is due to officially open soon.
Telling the family about the announcement of my appointment was one of the best parts of the week. They were delighted for me. They were all so supportive when I was offered the job on an interim basis in January and their support has not wavered for a single second since then.
Lynsey's reaction after it was all made public was to tweet that she now expects champagne rather than Lambrini at her wedding. We'll have to see about that!
The response of the players was a little more low-key. I told them in training before I went into the press conference. They just carried on with their stretches but I hope they were pleased!
They have been fantastic and I must also mention Steve Clarke, my assistant. His contribution shouldn't be underestimated in any way.
Life has changed for me in the last five months but I have never been afraid of hard work and am aware there are many people at the club who work equally as hard or harder than I do.
It has been a very pleasing end to the season and the players' efforts shouldn't be diminished regardless of the results of the two remaining games, including Sunday's against Tottenham.
My work, together with Damien Comolli, won't stop now just because we are nearing the end of the season. In fact, it could only be starting!
I don't think we will be quiet during the summer and am sure we will be linked with a lot of players.
All I can say about transfer targets is they have to be of the right calibre because the ones we've already got at the club have been fantastic so far. Anybody who comes in will have to improve the squad, otherwise we will keep our money in our pockets.
Dirk Kuyt and Raul Meireles
Regardless of whether we are in the Champions League, Europa League or not in Europe at all, Liverpool FC are still a great club to sign for and I am confident that if we want players, we will get them. If a potential signing wants too much money that we feel is disrespectful to the ones already here, we have the belief in ourselves to walk away from the deal.
But the plan must always be to try to strengthen and improve and the owners here want the club to be successful as much as anyone else.
The last few weeks have seen us set high standards for ourselves. To beat Manchester United and Manchester City shows what we are capable of.
Next season we have to try to attain results like that consistently, over a period of time.
The values and virtues of Liverpool Football Club have also been close to my heart. Usually, they are my values and virtues as well. This is a fantastic opportunity to help the club that has given me and my family so much.
If we can all do as well as those Academy lads who went to Menorca over Easter and represented Liverpool in the proper manner, we have half a chance.
The reader took the trouble to let me know he thought our players should be 'commended on their appearance and impeccable behaviour' in the hotel and restaurant and went on to describe the group as polite and orderly.
It's comments like that about our young players who are in their mid-teens which have helped make me feel so proud to be appointed the manager of Liverpool Football Club this week.
Success on the field for a club with Liverpool's tradition and history is paramount, of course it is. But at the same time, there is no reason it should not go hand-in-hand with a philosophy of showing respect to others and being ambassadors off the field.
It's the way I was brought up by my parents, and my wife, Marina, was the same. If they're considered oldfashioned values, fair enough, but I still think they have a part to play in modern football as well as any other walk of life. It doesn't have to be detrimental to your ultimate desire to be successful. It's one of the things that has pleased me most in recent months.
It has become a well-known fact that I was on holiday aboard a cruise ship when I was asked to come back and help Liverpool in the short term. Fortunately for me, things have gone relatively well since then and on Thursday it became something more permanent.
Certainly, the year 2011 has been different for me! But what has given me extra satisfaction is being able to share my good news with the rest of the Dalglish family, knowing they have also enjoyed noteable achievements this year.
My son Paul, who now lives in Texas, has recently had twins, Kelly is expecting her second child later this year, Lynsey is getting married and Lauren is doing very well in her fashion career while the medical facility built with funds by Marina's cancer foundation is due to officially open soon.
Telling the family about the announcement of my appointment was one of the best parts of the week. They were delighted for me. They were all so supportive when I was offered the job on an interim basis in January and their support has not wavered for a single second since then.
Lynsey's reaction after it was all made public was to tweet that she now expects champagne rather than Lambrini at her wedding. We'll have to see about that!
The response of the players was a little more low-key. I told them in training before I went into the press conference. They just carried on with their stretches but I hope they were pleased!
They have been fantastic and I must also mention Steve Clarke, my assistant. His contribution shouldn't be underestimated in any way.
Life has changed for me in the last five months but I have never been afraid of hard work and am aware there are many people at the club who work equally as hard or harder than I do.
It has been a very pleasing end to the season and the players' efforts shouldn't be diminished regardless of the results of the two remaining games, including Sunday's against Tottenham.
My work, together with Damien Comolli, won't stop now just because we are nearing the end of the season. In fact, it could only be starting!
I don't think we will be quiet during the summer and am sure we will be linked with a lot of players.
All I can say about transfer targets is they have to be of the right calibre because the ones we've already got at the club have been fantastic so far. Anybody who comes in will have to improve the squad, otherwise we will keep our money in our pockets.
Dirk Kuyt and Raul Meireles
Regardless of whether we are in the Champions League, Europa League or not in Europe at all, Liverpool FC are still a great club to sign for and I am confident that if we want players, we will get them. If a potential signing wants too much money that we feel is disrespectful to the ones already here, we have the belief in ourselves to walk away from the deal.
But the plan must always be to try to strengthen and improve and the owners here want the club to be successful as much as anyone else.
The last few weeks have seen us set high standards for ourselves. To beat Manchester United and Manchester City shows what we are capable of.
Next season we have to try to attain results like that consistently, over a period of time.
The values and virtues of Liverpool Football Club have also been close to my heart. Usually, they are my values and virtues as well. This is a fantastic opportunity to help the club that has given me and my family so much.
If we can all do as well as those Academy lads who went to Menorca over Easter and represented Liverpool in the proper manner, we have half a chance.
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Kenny Dalglish claims there is a 'distinct possibility' Alberto Aquilani could return to play for Liverpool next season.
The Italy midfielder was brought to Anfield by Rafael Benitez in 2009 but after an injury-ravaged first season was loaned back to Serie A.
He has enjoyed an impressive campaign with Juventus, managing 33 appearances and getting back into international contention.
And Dalglish told his pre-match press conference: "There's a distinct possibility he could be back here. He's a quality player. He got off to a bad start here with his injuries and never really got going after missing pre-season.
"He went out on loan and has done very well over there.
"If he was to come back here, for me that would be like a new face coming in. I don't know of any deadline, I wasn't privy to the conversations that were had. "
Liverpool loaned several players out this season including the likes of Daniel Ayala and Daniel Pacheco - though discussions have yet to take place regarding the future of those who've been away.
"We've got to assess what we need, and that includes the players who have been out on loan," added Dalglish. "They'll assess where they've been and the other clubs will assess them.
"Alberto is the highest profile but we've got decisions to make on (all) those players.
"We've not had time to sit down and discuss the players who have been out on loan apart from Alberto."
Meanwhile, Dalglish thinks comings and goings are inevitable at Melwood this summer - but he has strict criteria about adding players to his squad list.
"The people we'll be looking at are of the highest calibre, because the players here have done really well since January," said the boss. "It would be disrespectful to them not to look at players who are high calibre.
"We've had a great end to the season. There will be lots of work done in the close season and we'll take it from there. Movement is part and parcel of a football club in the summer. We'll be no different.
"Although it might affect them, players themselves expect new faces to come in and give the place a lift. It'll happen and they know it'll happen.
"We've had a lift from our own young players coming in and freshening it up a bit.
"If we get some quality people in to go along with the people already here, that will help everyone. It always helps to freshen up the dressing room.
"But if we're bringing anyone in they've got to be better than what we've got - and that's going to be a big ask."
Dalglish admits some of the performances he has witnessed since returning to the dugout on January 8 have surpassed his expectations - a fact that will affect his thinking when it comes to signing cheques this summer.
"When you're on the outside you don't always see the effort and commitment they have," he said. "I've noticed that since I've come in.
"I had no pre-conceived ideas. You have an opinion but it's not definitive.
"A lot of the performances have exceeded what I thought we were capable of. That's a great compliment to them, or maybe I'm just thick and didn't appreciate what we had here!"
Meanwhile, reporters wanted to know how helpful signing a three-year deal has been for Dalglish in preparing for next season.
The Scot responded: "I wouldn't say it's been a great help - played one, lost one!
"For me, the planning was going on anyway, irrespective of who was coming in because you can't leave it until the last minute. For training and some of the pre-season matches, planning had to be done. If you're sitting in this chair you've got to make the decision about what you want to do and when you want to train.
"Regarding players, there's only one person who can decide that, and that's the manager. That's something we need to get our skates on with to make sure we get the right players."
The Italy midfielder was brought to Anfield by Rafael Benitez in 2009 but after an injury-ravaged first season was loaned back to Serie A.
He has enjoyed an impressive campaign with Juventus, managing 33 appearances and getting back into international contention.
And Dalglish told his pre-match press conference: "There's a distinct possibility he could be back here. He's a quality player. He got off to a bad start here with his injuries and never really got going after missing pre-season.
"He went out on loan and has done very well over there.
"If he was to come back here, for me that would be like a new face coming in. I don't know of any deadline, I wasn't privy to the conversations that were had. "
Liverpool loaned several players out this season including the likes of Daniel Ayala and Daniel Pacheco - though discussions have yet to take place regarding the future of those who've been away.
"We've got to assess what we need, and that includes the players who have been out on loan," added Dalglish. "They'll assess where they've been and the other clubs will assess them.
"Alberto is the highest profile but we've got decisions to make on (all) those players.
"We've not had time to sit down and discuss the players who have been out on loan apart from Alberto."
Meanwhile, Dalglish thinks comings and goings are inevitable at Melwood this summer - but he has strict criteria about adding players to his squad list.
"The people we'll be looking at are of the highest calibre, because the players here have done really well since January," said the boss. "It would be disrespectful to them not to look at players who are high calibre.
"We've had a great end to the season. There will be lots of work done in the close season and we'll take it from there. Movement is part and parcel of a football club in the summer. We'll be no different.
"Although it might affect them, players themselves expect new faces to come in and give the place a lift. It'll happen and they know it'll happen.
"We've had a lift from our own young players coming in and freshening it up a bit.
"If we get some quality people in to go along with the people already here, that will help everyone. It always helps to freshen up the dressing room.
"But if we're bringing anyone in they've got to be better than what we've got - and that's going to be a big ask."
Dalglish admits some of the performances he has witnessed since returning to the dugout on January 8 have surpassed his expectations - a fact that will affect his thinking when it comes to signing cheques this summer.
"When you're on the outside you don't always see the effort and commitment they have," he said. "I've noticed that since I've come in.
"I had no pre-conceived ideas. You have an opinion but it's not definitive.
"A lot of the performances have exceeded what I thought we were capable of. That's a great compliment to them, or maybe I'm just thick and didn't appreciate what we had here!"
Meanwhile, reporters wanted to know how helpful signing a three-year deal has been for Dalglish in preparing for next season.
The Scot responded: "I wouldn't say it's been a great help - played one, lost one!
"For me, the planning was going on anyway, irrespective of who was coming in because you can't leave it until the last minute. For training and some of the pre-season matches, planning had to be done. If you're sitting in this chair you've got to make the decision about what you want to do and when you want to train.
"Regarding players, there's only one person who can decide that, and that's the manager. That's something we need to get our skates on with to make sure we get the right players."
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....Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish has told Manchester United that he would rather have five European Cups than 19 league titles.
United overtook the Reds' record of 18 titles when they clinched the Premier League trophy at Blackburn last weekend, a feat no-one thought was possible when Dalglish landed Liverpool's last title in his first stint as manager in 1990.
Since then, however, the Red Devils under Sir Alex Ferguson have dominated, winning 12 crowns in the last 19 years, as well as the UEFA Champions League on two occasions.
Dalglish was reacting to a question over a banner that was sneaked into Anfield against Tottenham reading 'MUFC 19 times," but claimed that he did not see it.
"It doesn't matter to me what United think. For me, this is the most important football club of all."
Kenny Dalglish still feel Liverpool are top dogs
Quotes of the week
"If a United fan can bring a banner into Anfield then maybe we should take our five European Cups to Old Trafford next season," he said.
"It doesn't matter to me what United think. For me, this is the most important football club of all.
"This club will always be the most important thing for millions of fans all over the world, just like Everton are the most important club to some people.
"We have to manage expectations here and we will do that. But if somebody is setting the level you need to reach to be successful then we have to go past that level. We don't believe we are rubbish."
Unfinished business
Dalglish walked out of the job in 1991 at a time when the club were the dominant force in English football, but since then they have seen United catch them and overtake them domestically.
The 61-year-old conceded that he owed the supporters something following his abrupt exit, and gave them praise for endorsing his return.
"I've said that I've got unfinished business here so in that respect I probably do feel like I owe the fans something," he added.
"It wasn't as if I left the club because of poor results was it?
"It was a shock for the fans when it happened, but it was an even bigger shock for me.
"I'm just fortunate that the supporters have forgiven me for what I did. I think they fully understand what happened and there is a mutual respect between the supporters and myself.
"The supporters will always be important, especially at this club because they have always been a huge part of it."
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....Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish has told Manchester United that he would rather have five European Cups than 19 league titles.
United overtook the Reds' record of 18 titles when they clinched the Premier League trophy at Blackburn last weekend, a feat no-one thought was possible when Dalglish landed Liverpool's last title in his first stint as manager in 1990.
Since then, however, the Red Devils under Sir Alex Ferguson have dominated, winning 12 crowns in the last 19 years, as well as the UEFA Champions League on two occasions.
Dalglish was reacting to a question over a banner that was sneaked into Anfield against Tottenham reading 'MUFC 19 times," but claimed that he did not see it.
"It doesn't matter to me what United think. For me, this is the most important football club of all."
Kenny Dalglish still feel Liverpool are top dogs
Quotes of the week
"If a United fan can bring a banner into Anfield then maybe we should take our five European Cups to Old Trafford next season," he said.
"It doesn't matter to me what United think. For me, this is the most important football club of all.
"This club will always be the most important thing for millions of fans all over the world, just like Everton are the most important club to some people.
"We have to manage expectations here and we will do that. But if somebody is setting the level you need to reach to be successful then we have to go past that level. We don't believe we are rubbish."
Unfinished business
Dalglish walked out of the job in 1991 at a time when the club were the dominant force in English football, but since then they have seen United catch them and overtake them domestically.
The 61-year-old conceded that he owed the supporters something following his abrupt exit, and gave them praise for endorsing his return.
"I've said that I've got unfinished business here so in that respect I probably do feel like I owe the fans something," he added.
"It wasn't as if I left the club because of poor results was it?
"It was a shock for the fans when it happened, but it was an even bigger shock for me.
"I'm just fortunate that the supporters have forgiven me for what I did. I think they fully understand what happened and there is a mutual respect between the supporters and myself.
"The supporters will always be important, especially at this club because they have always been a huge part of it."
Where does he say he'd rather have 5 European cups?
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Where does he say he'd rather have 5 European cups?
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Dunno, it was on twitter well after the presser so doubt it was then.
Where does he say he'd rather have 5 European cups?
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Dunno, it was on twitter well after the presser so doubt it was then.
Kenny Dalglish is adamant a lack of European football will not harm Liverpool's chances of attracting players this summer.
The Reds will not appear in continental competition next season for the first time since 1999-2000.
Back then Gerard Houllier still persuaded Didi Hamann, Sami Hyypia, Stephane Henchoz and Vladimir Smicer to relocate to Merseyside.
Dalglish - who came agonisingly close to guiding us into the Europa League despite a 12th-placed standing when he took over in January - doesn't have any worries over replicating such a successful summer of transfer activity.
"I've heard people say us not playing in Europe means we won't be an attractive proposition for some players. I disagree," Dalglish wrote in his column for LFC Weekly.
"The history and tradition of this club makes us attractive whether we are or aren't involved in European competition.
"If a player thinks otherwise we are better off without him."
Meanwhile, Dalglish spoke of his sympathy for Blackpool, who were relegated having scored more goals than any side ever to finish in the Premier League bottom three.
"I've spoken a few times this season about how I've admired the way Blackpool played and plenty of people will have sympathy for them after their relegation," said the gaffer.
"They can be more than happy with the efforts they put into their battle against the drop."
The Reds will not appear in continental competition next season for the first time since 1999-2000.
Back then Gerard Houllier still persuaded Didi Hamann, Sami Hyypia, Stephane Henchoz and Vladimir Smicer to relocate to Merseyside.
Dalglish - who came agonisingly close to guiding us into the Europa League despite a 12th-placed standing when he took over in January - doesn't have any worries over replicating such a successful summer of transfer activity.
"I've heard people say us not playing in Europe means we won't be an attractive proposition for some players. I disagree," Dalglish wrote in his column for LFC Weekly.
"The history and tradition of this club makes us attractive whether we are or aren't involved in European competition.
"If a player thinks otherwise we are better off without him."
Meanwhile, Dalglish spoke of his sympathy for Blackpool, who were relegated having scored more goals than any side ever to finish in the Premier League bottom three.
"I've spoken a few times this season about how I've admired the way Blackpool played and plenty of people will have sympathy for them after their relegation," said the gaffer.
"They can be more than happy with the efforts they put into their battle against the drop."
Murphy gets put in place by the King!!!!
KENNY DALGLISH has rubbished suggestions that Liverpool’s players will need to prove they can perform under pressure when the new season kicks off in August.
The Reds boss oversaw a dramatic transformation in the club’s fortunes after taking over from Roy Hodgson in January.
Having only picked up 25 points from their first 20 league games, Liverpool claimed 33 points from their remaining 18 matches under Dalglish to climb from 12th in the Premier League to sixth.
After their ruthless 5-2 demolition of his Fulham side at Craven Cottage earlier this month, Danny Murphy said the Reds were benefiting from playing with a freedom that will be absent next term.
The former Anfield midfielder said: “They have been playing under very little pressure.
"They haven’t needed to go out and win games, and everything they get is a bonus.
“It will be a different ask for those players to play under pressure every week if they are near the top.â€
However, Dalglish insists the demands on his players next season will be no different to what they had to deal with in the second half of this campaign.
He said: “When you are playing for Liverpool the pressure is always on and Danny should know that – he played here long enough didn’t he? 8)
“I just know that we played fantastic that night against Fulham and so does he.
“There’s always a caveat in there somewhere.
"There’s always somebody that asks a question.
“But if you take any pride in your work, you are under pressure in any walk of life.
"It’s not just exclusive to football.
“You worry about their ability to play first, and I’m sure the players can handle anything else that comes with it.â€
Liverpool’s revival has raised expectations ahead of next season and Dalglish shares the fans’ sense of optimism as he heads into a busy summer of transfer activity.
“You are always excited about it, but the excitement comes when you start to see positive changes in and around the place,†he said.
“The expectation is for everybody to build on what has happened since January, have a good summer and go into every game with the same attitude and commitment as we have since then.
"If you put those things in place, then we aren’t going to be too far away.
“Everyone is looking forward to next season which wouldn’t have been the case if we had stayed 12th.
"The fans are looking forward to it and so are the players. There will be plenty of enthusiasm in July when we come back.
“The disappointment of earlier in the season doesn’t do them any harm because once you win a couple of games you see how enjoyable it is. If they get a taste of that, they are going to have a nice taste in their mouth next season to go and achieve greater things.
“We only need to show improvement, and that will be a successful season.
"If we improve on what we’ve done this season next season, then I don’t think anybody can be disappointed.â€
Meanwhile, Liverpool legend Phil Neal has praised Dalglish for the impact he has made following his return to the Anfield hot-seat.
He said: “Kenny has certainly turned the team and the fans around magnificently.
"I think it was what was needed at the club.
"We’re looking forward to a new season and new challenges with renewed optimism.â€
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KENNY DALGLISH has rubbished suggestions that Liverpool’s players will need to prove they can perform under pressure when the new season kicks off in August.
The Reds boss oversaw a dramatic transformation in the club’s fortunes after taking over from Roy Hodgson in January.
Having only picked up 25 points from their first 20 league games, Liverpool claimed 33 points from their remaining 18 matches under Dalglish to climb from 12th in the Premier League to sixth.
After their ruthless 5-2 demolition of his Fulham side at Craven Cottage earlier this month, Danny Murphy said the Reds were benefiting from playing with a freedom that will be absent next term.
The former Anfield midfielder said: “They have been playing under very little pressure.
"They haven’t needed to go out and win games, and everything they get is a bonus.
“It will be a different ask for those players to play under pressure every week if they are near the top.â€
However, Dalglish insists the demands on his players next season will be no different to what they had to deal with in the second half of this campaign.
He said: “When you are playing for Liverpool the pressure is always on and Danny should know that – he played here long enough didn’t he? 8)
“I just know that we played fantastic that night against Fulham and so does he.
“There’s always a caveat in there somewhere.
"There’s always somebody that asks a question.
“But if you take any pride in your work, you are under pressure in any walk of life.
"It’s not just exclusive to football.
“You worry about their ability to play first, and I’m sure the players can handle anything else that comes with it.â€
Liverpool’s revival has raised expectations ahead of next season and Dalglish shares the fans’ sense of optimism as he heads into a busy summer of transfer activity.
“You are always excited about it, but the excitement comes when you start to see positive changes in and around the place,†he said.
“The expectation is for everybody to build on what has happened since January, have a good summer and go into every game with the same attitude and commitment as we have since then.
"If you put those things in place, then we aren’t going to be too far away.
“Everyone is looking forward to next season which wouldn’t have been the case if we had stayed 12th.
"The fans are looking forward to it and so are the players. There will be plenty of enthusiasm in July when we come back.
“The disappointment of earlier in the season doesn’t do them any harm because once you win a couple of games you see how enjoyable it is. If they get a taste of that, they are going to have a nice taste in their mouth next season to go and achieve greater things.
“We only need to show improvement, and that will be a successful season.
"If we improve on what we’ve done this season next season, then I don’t think anybody can be disappointed.â€
Meanwhile, Liverpool legend Phil Neal has praised Dalglish for the impact he has made following his return to the Anfield hot-seat.
He said: “Kenny has certainly turned the team and the fans around magnificently.
"I think it was what was needed at the club.
"We’re looking forward to a new season and new challenges with renewed optimism.â€
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"This club will always be the most important thing for millions of fans all over the world, just like Everton are the most important club to some people.
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am i reading too much into it or is that an immense backhand put down?
"This club will always be the most important thing for millions of fans all over the world, just like Everton are the most important club to some people.
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am i reading too much into it or is that an immense backhand put down?
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I'm embarrassed to ask but, what did Kenny say at 4.18 after Kelly asks him about Paul?
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Where's he staying?
Are you deef?
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I'm embarrassed to ask but, what did Kenny say at 4.18 after Kelly asks him about Paul?
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Where's he staying?
Are you deef?
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[quote author=Avvy link=topic=44115.msg1337048#msg1337048 date=1306070915]
"This club will always be the most important thing for millions of fans all over the world, just like Everton are the most important club to some people.
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am i reading too much into it or is that an immense backhand put down?
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I do think it's a put-down but I don't know about "immense". It's just a bit of banter really. I'll bet it was delivered with a twinkle in his eye.
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=44115.msg1337048#msg1337048 date=1306070915]
"This club will always be the most important thing for millions of fans all over the world, just like Everton are the most important club to some people.
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am i reading too much into it or is that an immense backhand put down?
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I do think it's a put-down but I don't know about "immense". It's just a bit of banter really. I'll bet it was delivered with a twinkle in his eye.
A Bitter's View (nicked off Rawk)
Great manager, great player, shocking barnet...
While the red half of Liverpool swears an oath of fealty at the feet of the returned ‘King’, the Everton half are busy praying that Dalglish’s permanent appointment doesn’t herald a restoration to former glory.
In our eyes, King Kenneth reigns supreme as the man that Evertonians despise the most – the sole sense in which we also consider him to be a king.
Aside from his hairstyle, which still looks as though it’s been cut by his mum, our unmitigated enmity towards Dalglish is also attributable to his uniquely held position as the only man associated with Liverpool FC who has inflicted pain upon us as both a player and a manager.
Of particular note was his player/managerial coup of winning the double over Everton in the 85/86 season (one of two footballing calamities to have made me physically ill, the other being the white suits worn by the Liverpool squad prior to the 96 FA Cup Final).
This loathing of the man is the reason why two of the most cherished memories held by Evertonians are:
1) Michael Thomas’ last minute goal against Liverpool in the final game of the 88/89 season, which enabled Arsenal to snatch the title away from Dalglish in both the cruellest and funniest way possible
2) Lawrie Sanchez’s header against Liverpool in the 87/88 FA cup final; a goal that enabled a less-than-fancied Wimbledon to snatch the trophy away from Dalglish in the most humiliating and funniest way possible.
My mum and dad (both ardent Blues) were so sure that Liverpool were going to win the final, that to avoid the sight of happy reds dancing in the street the entire family was taken for a day out to Wigan instead, a choice that for some still unknown reason was deemed preferable.
These were the rare occasions of failure during Dalglish’s managerial tenure at Anfield. And so it’s understandable that Evertonians witness the re-cementing of his relationship with Liverpool with a growing sense of unease, specifically when this coincides with a time when the club are awash with money and better prepared than at any period in recent years to mount a serious assault on the title.
But if following Everton has taught me anything (aside from at what point leisurewear becomes too much leisurewear) it’s to look for the silver lining. And with this in mind, I think there are several reasons why our collective fears might be unfounded.
It’s an old adage in football that managers should never go back. The magic that they once created often proves difficult to conjure up a second time. A few have managed it, such as Graham Taylor at Watford and Walter Smith at Rangers. But they are the exceptions.
Even the most blinkered of Blues could probably swallow down enough bile to acknowledge that Dalglish has a better record than most.
Far more common instead is the experience that we endured when the once sainted Howard Kendall came back to Everton on two separate occasions during the nineties. Despite his talents and obvious love of the club, our dreams of returning to the glory of the mid-eighties were ultimately wrecked, scuppered on the rocks of mediocrity, internal strife and Maurice Johnston.
Will things be different for Dalglish? Can he defy the odds and join the select few that manage to make things work second time around? Most red-sh***s would undoubtedly point to his managerial track record both with and without Liverpool as proof that here is a manager made of stronger stuff.
Even the most blinkered of Blues could probably swallow down enough bile to acknowledge that Dalglish has a better record than most. But it’s not flawless. His time at Newcastle was trophyless and when he went north of the border he fared little better. A sense of diminishing returns seems to define his post-Blackburn career, suggesting that maybe his best days are behind him.
But if all this isn’t enough to allay fears then let’s have a look at his signings since taking charge again at Liverpool, and by that I really mean the £35 million lashed out on the North-East’s finest Carlton Cole impersonator, Andy Carroll.
Paying that for a player of Carroll’s uncertain quality suggests that maybe Dalglish doesn’t really know what he’s doing. At the very least he should have tried getting him for a little less, if only to give the club the extra cash needed to cover Carroll’s stable fees and insatiable demand for sugar lumps.
Despite all of the above, red-sh***s will be comforted by the last five months of the season during which Dalglish put together a run of form that would have seen them in the top three if extrapolated over a whole campaign.
But as Evertonians discovered with Joe Royle, coming in and saving a club from relegation worries is one thing, translating that momentum into something longer lasting and more substantial is a different thing altogether.
So I’m still hopeful. It’s a different world anyway to the one when Dalglish was last cock-of-the-city (both meanings implied). When he took over back then Liverpool already had a fearsome reputation, the solid remnants of the squad built up by Bob Paisley and a structure in place to back this up. This time round things will be much harder and every move undertaken under the constant glare of owners accustomed to winning.
So rather than worrying about a second golden age, Evertonians should instead concentrate on the other possibility. This could be the time when the crown slips. There’s every chance that by choosing to take this job Dalglish will tarnish his legacy. Just think: no more ‘King Kenny’, an end to red-sh***s enthusing at his brilliance, and the possibility of thousands of kopites calling for him to go. It could be a wonderful thing. The king might be returned to his throne but let’s not forget that plenty of monarchs have lost their heads before.
Great manager, great player, shocking barnet...
While the red half of Liverpool swears an oath of fealty at the feet of the returned ‘King’, the Everton half are busy praying that Dalglish’s permanent appointment doesn’t herald a restoration to former glory.
In our eyes, King Kenneth reigns supreme as the man that Evertonians despise the most – the sole sense in which we also consider him to be a king.
Aside from his hairstyle, which still looks as though it’s been cut by his mum, our unmitigated enmity towards Dalglish is also attributable to his uniquely held position as the only man associated with Liverpool FC who has inflicted pain upon us as both a player and a manager.
Of particular note was his player/managerial coup of winning the double over Everton in the 85/86 season (one of two footballing calamities to have made me physically ill, the other being the white suits worn by the Liverpool squad prior to the 96 FA Cup Final).
This loathing of the man is the reason why two of the most cherished memories held by Evertonians are:
1) Michael Thomas’ last minute goal against Liverpool in the final game of the 88/89 season, which enabled Arsenal to snatch the title away from Dalglish in both the cruellest and funniest way possible
2) Lawrie Sanchez’s header against Liverpool in the 87/88 FA cup final; a goal that enabled a less-than-fancied Wimbledon to snatch the trophy away from Dalglish in the most humiliating and funniest way possible.
My mum and dad (both ardent Blues) were so sure that Liverpool were going to win the final, that to avoid the sight of happy reds dancing in the street the entire family was taken for a day out to Wigan instead, a choice that for some still unknown reason was deemed preferable.
These were the rare occasions of failure during Dalglish’s managerial tenure at Anfield. And so it’s understandable that Evertonians witness the re-cementing of his relationship with Liverpool with a growing sense of unease, specifically when this coincides with a time when the club are awash with money and better prepared than at any period in recent years to mount a serious assault on the title.
But if following Everton has taught me anything (aside from at what point leisurewear becomes too much leisurewear) it’s to look for the silver lining. And with this in mind, I think there are several reasons why our collective fears might be unfounded.
It’s an old adage in football that managers should never go back. The magic that they once created often proves difficult to conjure up a second time. A few have managed it, such as Graham Taylor at Watford and Walter Smith at Rangers. But they are the exceptions.
Even the most blinkered of Blues could probably swallow down enough bile to acknowledge that Dalglish has a better record than most.
Far more common instead is the experience that we endured when the once sainted Howard Kendall came back to Everton on two separate occasions during the nineties. Despite his talents and obvious love of the club, our dreams of returning to the glory of the mid-eighties were ultimately wrecked, scuppered on the rocks of mediocrity, internal strife and Maurice Johnston.
Will things be different for Dalglish? Can he defy the odds and join the select few that manage to make things work second time around? Most red-sh***s would undoubtedly point to his managerial track record both with and without Liverpool as proof that here is a manager made of stronger stuff.
Even the most blinkered of Blues could probably swallow down enough bile to acknowledge that Dalglish has a better record than most. But it’s not flawless. His time at Newcastle was trophyless and when he went north of the border he fared little better. A sense of diminishing returns seems to define his post-Blackburn career, suggesting that maybe his best days are behind him.
But if all this isn’t enough to allay fears then let’s have a look at his signings since taking charge again at Liverpool, and by that I really mean the £35 million lashed out on the North-East’s finest Carlton Cole impersonator, Andy Carroll.
Paying that for a player of Carroll’s uncertain quality suggests that maybe Dalglish doesn’t really know what he’s doing. At the very least he should have tried getting him for a little less, if only to give the club the extra cash needed to cover Carroll’s stable fees and insatiable demand for sugar lumps.
Despite all of the above, red-sh***s will be comforted by the last five months of the season during which Dalglish put together a run of form that would have seen them in the top three if extrapolated over a whole campaign.
But as Evertonians discovered with Joe Royle, coming in and saving a club from relegation worries is one thing, translating that momentum into something longer lasting and more substantial is a different thing altogether.
So I’m still hopeful. It’s a different world anyway to the one when Dalglish was last cock-of-the-city (both meanings implied). When he took over back then Liverpool already had a fearsome reputation, the solid remnants of the squad built up by Bob Paisley and a structure in place to back this up. This time round things will be much harder and every move undertaken under the constant glare of owners accustomed to winning.
So rather than worrying about a second golden age, Evertonians should instead concentrate on the other possibility. This could be the time when the crown slips. There’s every chance that by choosing to take this job Dalglish will tarnish his legacy. Just think: no more ‘King Kenny’, an end to red-sh***s enthusing at his brilliance, and the possibility of thousands of kopites calling for him to go. It could be a wonderful thing. The king might be returned to his throne but let’s not forget that plenty of monarchs have lost their heads before.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44115.msg1352852#msg1352852 date=1308670987]
Why would any fan be arsed writing so much about another teams manager ? Apart from being bitter obsessive loons that is.
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Two of the most cherished moments held by Evertonians have to do with Liverpool FC.
Nuff said.
Why would any fan be arsed writing so much about another teams manager ? Apart from being bitter obsessive loons that is.
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Two of the most cherished moments held by Evertonians have to do with Liverpool FC.
Nuff said.
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