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John_W_Henry John W. Henry
Speculation on players shouldn't include those of a certain age. We are not going to be successful by merely filling short-term needs at LFC

This doesn't sound like the tweet of an owner contemplating buying a twenty nine year old striker
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is that recent?
 
No, it's old. We still need experience aswell, especially at this stage where we're short of ideas. I'm not totally advocating it, there's alot of negatives, especially financially, but he's a good player, he's quick and he knows where the goal is. I'd rather have him than Bent.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48296.msg1465069#msg1465069 date=1326710025]
No, it's old. We still need experience aswell, especially at this stage where we're short of ideas. I'm not totally advocating it, there's alot of negatives, especially financially, but he's a good player, he's quick and he knows where the goal is. I'd rather have him than Bent.
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kuyt, maxi, gerrard, carra, pepe,

how much experience do we need?
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=48296.msg1465067#msg1465067 date=1326709698]
[quote author=the count link=topic=48296.msg1465063#msg1465063 date=1326709498]
John_W_Henry John W. Henry
Speculation on players shouldn't include those of a certain age. We are not going to be successful by merely filling short-term needs at LFC

This doesn't sound like the tweet of an owner contemplating buying a twenty nine year old striker
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is that recent?
[/quote]Sorry, it's not but for some reason popped up just now in between lots of recent stuff.
I didn't check the date, just assuming it was from a similar time frame to other tweets in the timeline.

If we are in for some one like Defoe it will have meant quite a shift in thinking
 
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48296.msg1465069#msg1465069 date=1326710025]
No, it's old. We still need experience aswell, especially at this stage where we're short of ideas. I'm not totally advocating it, there's alot of negatives, especially financially, but he's a good player, he's quick and he knows where the goal is. I'd rather have him than Bent.
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kuyt, maxi, gerrard, carra, pepe,

how much experience do we need?
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There's only two of those though that Kenny looks like he actually wants to play. Out on the pitch it's Pepe and Gerrard, so that's one experienced outfield player, a South American he clearly doesn't fancy who can't get a sniff and two players who are nearly past it.
 
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48296.msg1465069#msg1465069 date=1326710025]
No, it's old. We still need experience aswell, especially at this stage where we're short of ideas. I'm not totally advocating it, there's alot of negatives, especially financially, but he's a good player, he's quick and he knows where the goal is. I'd rather have him than Bent.
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kuyt, maxi, gerrard, carra, pepe,

how much experience do we need?
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There's only two of those though that Kenny looks like he actually wants to play. Out on the pitch it's Pepe and Gerrard, so that's one experienced outfield player, a South American he clearly doesn't fancy who can't get a sniff and two players who are nearly past it.
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a goal hanger isn't the answer to our problems, he'll only grow frustrasted at the lack of service.
 
spent 15-20 million on herrara and/or munian and work on a top notch striker next year (but top notch ala cavani top ntoch)
 
Our attack looks ponderous at the moment particularly in the absence of Suarez. If we were looking for I striker I would prefer pace to experience. 🙂
 
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48296.msg1465069#msg1465069 date=1326710025]
No, it's old. We still need experience aswell, especially at this stage where we're short of ideas. I'm not totally advocating it, there's alot of negatives, especially financially, but he's a good player, he's quick and he knows where the goal is. I'd rather have him than Bent.
[/quote]

kuyt, maxi, gerrard, carra, pepe,

how much experience do we need?
[/quote]

There's only two of those though that Kenny looks like he actually wants to play. Out on the pitch it's Pepe and Gerrard, so that's one experienced outfield player, a South American he clearly doesn't fancy who can't get a sniff and two players who are nearly past it.
[/quote]
a goal hanger isn't the answer to our problems, he'll only grow frustrasted at the lack of service.
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You said yesterday that we've missed loads of chances and been unlucky, that there have games where we've battered teams!
 
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=48296.msg1465074#msg1465074 date=1326710161]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48296.msg1465069#msg1465069 date=1326710025]
No, it's old. We still need experience aswell, especially at this stage where we're short of ideas. I'm not totally advocating it, there's alot of negatives, especially financially, but he's a good player, he's quick and he knows where the goal is. I'd rather have him than Bent.
[/quote]

kuyt, maxi, gerrard, carra, pepe,

how much experience do we need?
[/quote]

There's only two of those though that Kenny looks like he actually wants to play. Out on the pitch it's Pepe and Gerrard, so that's one experienced outfield player, a South American he clearly doesn't fancy who can't get a sniff and two players who are nearly past it.
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a goal hanger isn't the answer to our problems, he'll only grow frustrasted at the lack of service.
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You said yesterday that we've missed loads of chances and been unlucky, that there have games where we've battered teams!
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that 'was' the case earlier in the season but recently we've struggled to create genuine chances and even if we were creating a sea of chances I'd still want a striker who is as capable outside the box as he was inside it.
 
[quote author=the count link=topic=48296.msg1465063#msg1465063 date=1326709498]
John_W_Henry John W. Henry
Speculation on players shouldn't include those of a certain age. We are not going to be successful by merely filling short-term needs at LFC


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The key word there is, or ought to be, 'merely'. If certain short-term needs need filling, they need filling. That's not inconsistent with a general policy emphasising youth development.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=48296.msg1464081#msg1464081 date=1326544092]
I want Ba. Fuck Defoe.
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Yup.
 
I've said it before, spending £10m on 29 year old Defoe is daft when Nicky Maynard 24 (Bristol City) is available for about £2m. Bristol City turned down £7m for him last season, thinking/hoping he'd sign a contract extention. He now has 6 months left on his contract and is available at a budget price. He's very similar in style to Defoe and could prove at least as good.

There is no downside to this deal as we would be able to sell Maynard for £4m-£5m at least even if he wasn't succesful for us.
 
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=48296.msg1465157#msg1465157 date=1326718899]
I've said it before, spending £10m on 29 year old Defoe is daft when Nicky Maynard 24 (Bristol City) is available for about £2m. Bristol City turned down £7m for him last season, thinking/hoping he'd sign a contract extention. He now has 6 months left on his contract and is available at a budget price. He's very similar in style to Defoe and could prove at least as good.

There is no downside to this deal as we would be able to sell Maynard for £4m-£5m at least even if he wasn't succesful for us.
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Give KK a phone Pesam. I think he needs some advice.
 
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[quote author=Pesam link=topic=48296.msg1465157#msg1465157 date=1326718899]
I've said it before, spending £10m on 29 year old Defoe is daft when Nicky Maynard 24 (Bristol City) is available for about £2m. Bristol City turned down £7m for him last season, thinking/hoping he'd sign a contract extention. He now has 6 months left on his contract and is available at a budget price. He's very similar in style to Defoe and could prove at least as good.

There is no downside to this deal as we would be able to sell Maynard for £4m-£5m at least even if he wasn't succesful for us.
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Give KK a phone Pesam. I think he needs some advice.
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sarcasm?
 
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[quote author=Pesam link=topic=48296.msg1465157#msg1465157 date=1326718899]
I've said it before, spending £10m on 29 year old Defoe is daft when Nicky Maynard 24 (Bristol City) is available for about £2m. Bristol City turned down £7m for him last season, thinking/hoping he'd sign a contract extention. He now has 6 months left on his contract and is available at a budget price. He's very similar in style to Defoe and could prove at least as good.

There is no downside to this deal as we would be able to sell Maynard for £4m-£5m at least even if he wasn't succesful for us.
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Give KK a phone Pesam. I think he needs some advice.
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Maynard ticks all John Henry's boxes; cheap, big sell-on potential, young and very possibly a very good addition to the squad/team. He ticks Kenny's/Comolli's box i.e. potential "fox-in-the-box" goalscorer. My gut feeling is he'll go to Everton or Bolton.
 
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[quote author=Pesam link=topic=48296.msg1465157#msg1465157 date=1326718899]
I've said it before, spending £10m on 29 year old Defoe is daft when Nicky Maynard 24 (Bristol City) is available for about £2m. Bristol City turned down £7m for him last season, thinking/hoping he'd sign a contract extention. He now has 6 months left on his contract and is available at a budget price. He's very similar in style to Defoe and could prove at least as good.

There is no downside to this deal as we would be able to sell Maynard for £4m-£5m at least even if he wasn't succesful for us.
[/quote]

Give KK a phone Pesam. I think he needs some advice.
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sarcasm?
[/quote]

I'm never sarcastic with Pesam. He is 6CM's chief scout in the lower leagues. I do wish he had a hotline to KK.



@Pesam- yeah, last time you mentioned him I thought he sounded like Moyes-bait.
 
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[quote author=Pesam link=topic=48296.msg1465157#msg1465157 date=1326718899]
I've said it before, spending £10m on 29 year old Defoe is daft when Nicky Maynard 24 (Bristol City) is available for about £2m. Bristol City turned down £7m for him last season, thinking/hoping he'd sign a contract extention. He now has 6 months left on his contract and is available at a budget price. He's very similar in style to Defoe and could prove at least as good.

There is no downside to this deal as we would be able to sell Maynard for £4m-£5m at least even if he wasn't succesful for us.
[/quote]

Give KK a phone Pesam. I think he needs some advice.
[/quote]

Maynard ticks all John Henry's boxes; cheap, big sell-on potential, young and very possibly a very good addition to the squad/team. He ticks Kenny's/Comolli's box i.e. potential "fox-in-the-box" goalscorer. My gut feeling is he'll go to Everton or Bolton.
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Then to a top 6 side for £25 million, 2 years later?
 
Our current potential match winners are Suarez, Bellamy and Gerrard. I'd prefer that we add another to our ranks during this window whether it be a striker, winger, inside forward, whatever. Great players figure out how to play football together regardless of field position and formations.
 
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[quote author=Pesam link=topic=48296.msg1465157#msg1465157 date=1326718899]
I've said it before, spending £10m on 29 year old Defoe is daft when Nicky Maynard 24 (Bristol City) is available for about £2m. Bristol City turned down £7m for him last season, thinking/hoping he'd sign a contract extention. He now has 6 months left on his contract and is available at a budget price. He's very similar in style to Defoe and could prove at least as good.

There is no downside to this deal as we would be able to sell Maynard for £4m-£5m at least even if he wasn't succesful for us.
[/quote]

Give KK a phone Pesam. I think he needs some advice.
[/quote]

Maynard ticks all John Henry's boxes; cheap, big sell-on potential, young and very possibly a very good addition to the squad/team. He ticks Kenny's/Comolli's box i.e. potential "fox-in-the-box" goalscorer. My gut feeling is he'll go to Everton or Bolton.
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Then to a top 6 side for £25 million, 2 years later?
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There is an outside chance that he could become worth that (if he signed for an EPL team and scored 25+ in a season etc) but the fact is he is probably worth what Leicester offered for him last summer i.e. £7m. To me his signing is a no-brainer, even if he fails at LFC he'd still be worth £4m+ to a top Championship club next year and if he is as good as I think he is then he could become a £20m+ player and score bucket-loads for us.
 
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[quote author=Pesam link=topic=48296.msg1465157#msg1465157 date=1326718899]
I've said it before, spending £10m on 29 year old Defoe is daft when Nicky Maynard 24 (Bristol City) is available for about £2m. Bristol City turned down £7m for him last season, thinking/hoping he'd sign a contract extention. He now has 6 months left on his contract and is available at a budget price. He's very similar in style to Defoe and could prove at least as good.

There is no downside to this deal as we would be able to sell Maynard for £4m-£5m at least even if he wasn't succesful for us.
[/quote]

Give KK a phone Pesam. I think he needs some advice.
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sarcasm?
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I'm never sarcastic with Pesam. He is 6CM's chief scout in the lower leagues. I do wish he had a hotline to KK.



@Pesam- yeah, last time you mentioned him I thought he sounded like Moyes-bait.
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Actually I think it was you who put the Everton thought in my mind because they are crying out for a goalscorer (even more than us), their forwards make ours seem prolific.
 
alantkayllAlan Kayll
Why would we give spurs £10m for defoe? Inquiry on loan deal was made. We are still looking.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48296.msg1465255#msg1465255 date=1326731263]
Linked with Moussa Sow today. Swap him with Cole and a few mill. Win win.
[/quote]The few times I have seen Sow he reminded of Cisse. 🙁
The fact that he would still be a better option up front than Carroll or Kuyt doesn't cheer me up >🙁
 
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=48296.msg1465182#msg1465182 date=1326722229]
Maynard ticks all John Henry's boxes; cheap, big sell-on potential, young and very possibly a very good addition to the squad/team. He ticks Kenny's/Comolli's box i.e. potential "fox-in-the-box" goalscorer. My gut feeling is he'll go to Everton or Bolton.
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Been linked with West Brom today. It is one thing we never do any more though - buy players from the lower leagues
 
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I've said it before, spending £10m on 29 year old Defoe is daft when Nicky Maynard 24 (Bristol City) is available for about £2m. Bristol City turned down £7m for him last season, thinking/hoping he'd sign a contract extention. He now has 6 months left on his contract and is available at a budget price. He's very similar in style to Defoe and could prove at least as good.

There is no downside to this deal as we would be able to sell Maynard for £4m-£5m at least even if he wasn't succesful for us.
[/quote]

Give KK a phone Pesam. I think he needs some advice.
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sarcasm?
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I'm never sarcastic with Pesam. He is 6CM's chief scout in the lower leagues. I do wish he had a hotline to KK.



@Pesam- yeah, last time you mentioned him I thought he sounded like Moyes-bait.
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Actually I think it was you who put the Everton thought in my mind because they are crying out for a goalscorer (even more than us), their forwards make ours seem prolific.
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They don't have a pot to pee in though. At least Bolton could spend some of the Cahill money on Maynard.
 
another inflated english 'talent' who is 29...

on that note when is the last time we signed an english player who turned out to be very good? I'm sure we have, but I can't remember?
 
[quote author=red_maradona link=topic=48296.msg1465319#msg1465319 date=1326738850]
another inflated english 'talent' who is 29...

on that note when is the last time we signed an english player who turned out to be very good? I'm sure we have, but I can't remember?
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easy

shelvey
 
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