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I think apathy hit this season rather than doom mongering.

Now that changes are afoot people are naturally drawn back in again and the fear kicks in all over again. Hopefully our lizard overlords look beyond a short-term fix and get these decisions right.
 
GM - the boss. Puts together the squad and all the various things you need to assess and scout talent.

Under him you'll probably have a scouting director, head of player development, Stats and analytics department.

Then the manager coaches and picks the team and tactics.
 
that being the case it becomes less about a manager's scouting network and more about their coaching methods, tactics and man management.

maybe that's why that's way they are not concerned about experience at the highest level and only about their footballing methods.
 
GM - the boss. Puts together the squad and all the various things you need to assess and scout talent.

Under him you'll probably have a scouting director, head of player development, Stats and analytics department.

Then the manager coaches and picks the team and tactics.

So the manager in our set up will be a coach.

The GM will buy players & the coach will pick them. The GM also selects the scouts.

I'm not sure I like that considering it looks like we haven't appointed a gm & are looking at managers that play in different ways.

Surely if we have a gm picking the squad that is to remain consistent across coaches then we need a gm now who knows what system/style he wants & should be looking at candidates who play that way.

Extreme example but imagine we get Sam allardyce as manager/coach, then tixti Barcelona fella as gm? It just wouldn't work.

Either they know who the GM is or they're fucking things up.
 
the general manager has to be in place, he HAS to be. if he isn't then who is doing the interviews?
that would be like a games company hiring a programmer and using an artist (rather than a programmer) to perform the interview (sorry, I'm in games I can't thnk of another anaolgy).
 
So after reading through this thread I have one question, do we, or do we not, have a new director of football?
 
Spot on Jon. I'd be surprised if the new GM/DOF isnt involved in the process even informally. That said despite the GMs involvement in picking the Red Sox manager in the summer most experts reckon the GM wanted no part of the manager that got hired.
 
A very good argument against Rafa is the gushing Tomkins love letters that come as part of the deal
 
Is Ross trying to shoehorn us into what's happening in America and what his ideals are about football managers?

I do think you need to have a 'team' behind the scenes, but I don't think the only option that the Americans are set on is having a DOF/GM who has a major impact on the signings and a heavy say on who we buy, surely after the Comolli farce they've had their fingers burnt on that score?

Shouldn't a DOF be more about the structure of the club and the set up AND implementing a strategy and style that will be worked on and worked on from top to bottom? I know that then forces a say on signings because players have to suit that style, but suggesting a manager is just there to coach while those around him provide the players would be dangerous in the very least. Most managers at this level will want major control over the personalities and abilities that they bring into the dressing room and coach on the pitch each week.
 
FSG are Mark. And its what has happened at all the top clubs in Europe. The English clubs that have been slow on the uptake are the ones suffering despite having the resources to outmatch most European clubs.
 
Yep, Rafa is too egotistical and controlling to ever be considered in that sort of role. Which is a shame because tactically he could be a useful addition. Sadly we don't play every match over two legs.
 
FSG are Mark. And its what has happened at all the top clubs in Europe. The English clubs that have been slow on the uptake are the ones suffering despite having the resources to outmatch most European clubs.

I understand the set up, but suggesting that some of these top managers in Europe don't want and don't have a big say on transfers is well wide of the mark.

I do like the idea of designated roles within the DOF position btw. It could be a case of too many cooks though in the end..
 
The first rule of projection Ross:

If you have a really strong negative reaction to someone it is invariably because they personify an aspect of your own unacknowledged shadow.

Ergo, Ross and Rafa sitting in a tree....
 
The first rule of projection Ross:

If you have a really strong negative reaction to someone it is invariably because they personify an aspect of your own unacknowledged shadow.

Ergo, Ross and Rafa sitting in a tree....
LoL... perhaps.
 
The DoF should be someone who is proven to identify top talent, this is about identifying tomorrows top talent rather than todays. The manager should be the one who identifies today's talent as long as they fall in line with a the DoF long term plan for team. That's how I see it anyway.
 
The DoF should be someone who is proven to identify top talent, this is about identifying tomorrows top talent rather than todays. The manager should be the one who identifies today's talent as long as they fall in line with a the DoF long term plan for team. That's how I see it anyway.

I dunno, what's the point of Scouts then? To be assigned to go and find these players for the DOF to ultimately pass judgement on? Sounds like a glorified Chief Scout role to me.

Shouldn't a DOF Direct the Football? 😉
 
I dunno, what's the point of Scouts then? To be assigned to go and find these players for the DOF to ultimately pass judgement on? Sounds like a glorified Chief Scout role to me.

Shouldn't a DOF Direct the Football? 😉


The DoF absolutely should have the overall vision for our football and scouts to identify short and long term talent, I meant the manager would say 'I need a left back (for example)' and the scouting team would go and get that player.
 
The DoF should be someone who is proven to identify top talent, this is about identifying tomorrows top talent rather than todays. The manager should be the one who identifies today's talent as long as they fall in line with a the DoF long term plan for team. That's how I see it anyway.

Except we're not doing that neil. We're getting a gm instead, who'll presumably have a vision & style for the club & pass that on to the head scout, coach etc.
 
The Independent, meanwhile, claims that Fenway Sports Group have hired a team of headhunters to help in their "pursuit of a manager" and with other restructuring within Liverpool football club. The role of Damien Comolli, the former director of football who was sacked last month, will be replaced by two senior personnel with one concentrating on administration and the other the football.

Liverpool's new communications director is Jen Chang, formerly senior football editor at American magazine Sports Illustrated.
 
It's a new and interesting step splitting responsibilities, however I'm skeptic though. Somehow reminds me of our tenure under the double managership of Evans & Houllier. Clash of personalities may be a bigger obstacle than many would possibly have thought.
 
It's a new and interesting step splitting responsibilities, however I'm skeptic though. Somehow reminds me of our tenure under the double managership of Evans & Houllier. Clash of personalities may be a bigger obstacle than many would possibly have thought.


the head coach will literally be the head coach and have no to no responsibility over anything else. it's no wonder they are going for martinrez as few manager will subscribe to that level of control
 
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