DoF?

[bluebell]

Let's be honest Jorge seems useless, and we need someone in place before the Jan window. The head of recruitment at Brighton is Sam Jewel, I hear he is a real gem. Appaz it was the recruitment team that signed Melo, Kabak and Davies, which to me says we need an overhaul. I would get Sam in and see what he does.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Let's be honest Jorge seems useless, and we need someone in place before the Jan window. The head of recruitment at Brighton is Sam Jewel, I hear he is a real gem. Appaz it was the recruitment team that signed Melo, Kabak and Davies, which to me says we need an overhaul. I would get Sam in and see what he does.

Are you complaining about the players we have brought in under him?

 

[Squiggles]

Jorj was not responsible for identifying targets.
His job to negotiate the deals, so that's all he can be judged on.

 

[Woland]

Why would you need a footy dude for that? Wouldn't you get some borderline psychopath from Goldman Sachs?

 

[Dreambeliever]

Jorj was not responsible for identifying targets.
His job to negotiate the deals, so that's all he can be judged on.

In that case he’s been superb.

 

[The Nomad]

In that case he’s been superb.

Really?

Two had release clauses one was apparently Ward before he left... one of which almost expired before he pulled the finger out of his arse.

And the other two the concensus is we've over paid.

Caicedo was a massive fuck up
And the lavia increments decable was laughable.

Superb indeed.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Really?

Two had release clauses one was apparently Ward before he left... one of which almost expired before he pulled the finger out of his arse.

And the other two the concensus is we've over paid.

Caicedo was a massive fuck up
And the lavia increments decable was laughable.

Superb indeed.

Endo was peanuts considering they knew we had 100m, were desperate and was their captain.
Grevyboat is superb value for money.
The Chelsea deal we were lied to by the player. Nothing he could do about that.

 

[The Nomad]

Endo was peanuts considering they knew we had 100m, were desperate and was their captain.
Grevyboat is superb value for money.
The Chelsea deal we were lied to by the player. Nothing he could do about that.

Time will tell on Endo/Gravenberch I hope they are steals I'm just telling you the consensus from other teams is we over paid.

And Caicedo while I agree the agent is to blame for the majority. We went with an over the top bid to try and block Chelsea.

 

[localny]

He’s a temporary stopgap for sure. But it’s Schmad to judge the guy and blame him for our organizational shortcomings. For all we know he may be the reason why signings 3 and 4 got done.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Time will tell on Endo/Gravenberch I hope they are steals I'm just telling you the consensus from other teams is we over paid.

And Caicedo while I agree the agent is to blame for the majority. We went with an over the top bid to try and block Chelsea.

On what planet is 16m and 34m overpaying?

These other fans are idiots.

His job was to negotiate a deal as to you say, not decide who to target.
Once it was sanctioned to move for him, he brokered a deal that Brighton accepted. He did his job.

 

[Hyena]

He didn't do shit.
Overpaid for both Endo and Gravenberch after spending an eternity negotiating for twenty different midfielders.

 

[Hyena]

Let's be honest, any competent DOF at another club of similar size could have had Grave and Endo into the door within two days of the window opening if we wanted them. Yes he's probably not solely responsible for our indecisiveness but he's not adding any value either.

 

[The Nomad]

On what planet is 16m and 34m overpaying?

These other fans are idiots.

His job was to negotiate a deal as to you say, not decide who to target.
Once it was sanctioned to move for him, he brokered a deal that Brighton accepted. He did his job.

16m on a player no one else was going for, and had a year left on his contract. And is 30.

34m on a player we could have had for half that price 12 months ago. And wasn't playing for his team so not sure how his price leapt 100% in 12 months.. AND we only sealed it on the last day.

But sure let's use Dreamie logic to say Schmad did a good job.

 

[Dreambeliever]

16m on a player no one else was going for, and had a year left on his contract. And is 30.

34m on a player we could have had for half that price 12 months ago. And wasn't playing for his team so not sure how his price leapt 100% in 12 months.. AND we only sealed it on the last day.

But sure let's use Dreamie logic to say Schmad did a good job.

He choose Bayern over us last summer.
16m is cheap for a top flight captain of a top league player even at 30.
We’ve signed more top players in 3 months under him that we have in years.

 

[tombrown]

16m on a player no one else was going for, and had a year left on his contract. And is 30.

34m on a player we could have had for half that price 12 months ago. And wasn't playing for his team so not sure how his price leapt 100% in 12 months.. AND we only sealed it on the last day.

But sure let's use Dreamie logic to say Schmad did a good job.

Yeah Schmad is such a cunt for signing Gravenberch a year later then we should have

 

[bluebell]

Fans of his former were laughing when we employed him, he is on a 3 month temp contract and it comes to an end soon. FSG need to appoint someone who will create a blueprint for the club's recruitment policy. I am eager if the Saud's can offer anything close to £200m for Salah we sell, and then we get a DoF who along with Klopp can stratergise which players we need to fulfil the gaps in Jan to mount a top 4 finish and win the Europa Cup.

 

[The Nomad]

Yeah Schmad is such a cunt for signing Gravenberch a year later then we should have

See, I set that up to see if Dreamie noticed.

Paying a 100% premium isn't great for someone who has barely played in 12 months.

But we will see if it proves to be a good signing or not.

 

[Dreambeliever]

See, I set that up to see if Dreamie noticed.

Paying a 100% premium isn't great for someone who has barely played in 12 months.

But we will see if it proves to be a good signing or not.

He had 1 year left on his contract then, he had 4 left at Bayern.
It’s a superb deal and our DOF deserves huge credit. 3 players in, all from Germany and all three straight forward.

 

[Hyena]

It was straight forward because we either paid the Release Clause, or paid whatever the selling club asked for.

Nothing wrong with that, I wished we did that more often. But nothing to really credit Jorg about.

 

[SummerOnions]

It was straight forward because we either paid the Release Clause, or paid whatever the selling club asked for.

Nothing wrong with that, I wished we did that more often. But nothing to really credit Jorg about.

The only counter argument I have here is that if they're good players and they seem to be, how come we didn't face so much competition to sign them? Feel like big Schmadders must be doing something

 

[Champ]

Most clubs, its not only Chelsea, don't know a good player until they have seen him play for us

 

[Champ]

Without a release clause, its not easy for us to sign a good player on the cheap. Our interest in the player immediately raises conversations about the players potential which the selling club may have underestimated so the agreed transfer fee is likely to go a few notches up.
Regarding our scouts, it's easy to feel frustrated with them when compared to their counterparts in clubs like Brighton, Benfica because they constantly come up with some "gems" on the scene, but we have some great team of scouts and analysts behind Klopp, that have kept this club up there competiting with state funded clubs. It takes time to identify a star player and our guys understandably take their time, but to me we have some brilliant guys behind the scenes and I would not rush to exchange them for any of those that are yet to be proven on a long run.

 

[bluebell]

Without a release clause, its not easy for us to sign a good player on the cheap. Our interest in the player immediately raises conversations about the players potential which the selling club may have underestimated so the agreed transfer fee is likely to go a few notches up.
Regarding our scouts, it's easy to feel frustrated with them when compared to their counterparts in clubs like Brighton, Benfica because they constantly come up with some "gems" on the scene, but we have some great team of scouts and analysts behind Klopp, that have kept this club up there competiting with state funded clubs. It takes time to identify a star player and our guys understandably take their time, but to me we have some brilliant guys behind the scenes and I would not rush to exchange them for any of those that are yet to be proven on a long run.

We know our scouts go to games, we don't know what they write in the reports... for all we know, they could write glowing reports but Klopp and the recruitment probably don't rubber stamp it. Enzo and Moises were scouted out but the recruitment did not want to deal with the red tape. They were the guys that signed Kabak, Davies and Melo.

 

[localny]

Jaysis lads, getting stuck into the Schmad man is a bit harsh. He’s barely been here - and he’s negotiating in a sports washed inflated market. Plus there’s frequently a tax involved if you’re a club as esteemed as ours. And He’ll likely be gone in a few weeks.

 

[Hyena]

Maybe I'm not giving Schmadtke enough credit because I feel most of the scouting /groundwork had been done by Julian Ward, who is rumoured to be coming back btw.

 

[juniormember]

The deal for Sobo was very quick, and now we’re seeing that clearly he’s already a better player than his purchase price. We got a good deal on that one.
But I don’t think any of us know who to credit for any of the signings. We can only speculate.

 

[StevieM]

The deal for Sobo was very quick, and now we’re seeing that clearly he’s already a better player than his purchase price. We got a good deal on that one.
But I don’t think any of us know who to credit for any of the signings. We can only speculate.

Wasn’t the Slobbers deal quick because it was a buy out clause that expired in a few days time?

 

[localny]

Maybe I'm not giving Schmadtke enough credit because I feel most of the scouting /groundwork had been done by Julian Ward, who is rumoured to be coming back btw.

wow that’s bananas if true

 

[juniormember]

Wasn’t the Slobbers deal quick because it was a buy out clause that expired in a few days time?

Really? Didn’t know! Thought the buyout thing was Macca only.

 

[StevieM]

Really? Didn’t know! Thought the buyout thing was Macca only.

Nah - pretty sure Slibbers had a time-limited £60m buyout and we were told we either activate the clause quickly or he was going nowhere.