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Its fairly easy to change those pages within seconds (I once changed the word midfielder to cornflake on paul scholes page), so im full sure you've gone and done that yourself Modo 
Still funny though
Still funny though
If there's a trial and he uses this video to prove that he's been productive for Liverpool, he'll be sentenced to death.
"The assist thing? I've constantly set up chances, as I did at Aston Villa and Middlesbrough and have done at Liverpool, season in and season out," Downing said. "I can't be criticised for not creating. I'm in the team to do that and I've done that throughout the season. I've just been unlucky that we've not finished the chances.
"Stats have taken over the game: he doesn't score this, he hasn't set up that... You can read into it as you like. If you look at what I did at Aston Villa, those chances got put away. Last season I was on a par with that, but at Liverpool they didn't [get put away]. It seemed to take us four or five chances to score a goal."
The failure to score was the part he held up his hand to, though. "The goal thing is [embarrassing], the fact that I didn't get enough goals." For Hodgson, Downing's early combination in Oslo with Andy Carroll – whom the manager seems tempted to use against France – will also have registered. For Joe Hart, Downing is the squad's great conundrum. "It's surprised me how he's not scored," the keeper said. "I watched goalkeepers go to Anfield week in, week out and have the games of their lives."
"Stats have taken over the game: he doesn't score this, he hasn't set up that... You can read into it as you like. If you look at what I did at Aston Villa, those chances got put away. Last season I was on a par with that, but at Liverpool they didn't [get put away]. It seemed to take us four or five chances to score a goal."
The failure to score was the part he held up his hand to, though. "The goal thing is [embarrassing], the fact that I didn't get enough goals." For Hodgson, Downing's early combination in Oslo with Andy Carroll – whom the manager seems tempted to use against France – will also have registered. For Joe Hart, Downing is the squad's great conundrum. "It's surprised me how he's not scored," the keeper said. "I watched goalkeepers go to Anfield week in, week out and have the games of their lives."
I don't get the hate for Downing. I'm clearly in the minority but I feel the lad will come good. 2012-2013 is gonna be his season.
*Runs to bed*
*Runs to bed*
I'm another one of the minority. I always said the "assists" thing is a two-way thing. As he said, he's created plenty of chances. It's not his fault if Suarez or Carroll can't put it in the net. Yes, he should have scored more goals (I think he will next season) but he's worked hard for us last season, and especially toward the end he was playing much better (even though the trolls couldn't admit it).
I think he'll be one of our better players next season.
I think he'll be one of our better players next season.
If I'm reading Rodgers formation & style right, he plays with inverted wingers.
If so, Downing may be better on the right, Stevie employed on the left.
However, someone on TAW podcast made an argument that against teams who sit with 11 men behind the ball at Anfield, he could acvtually be used as a left back.
Sounds bizarre, but they have little defensive responsibility in that setup against that type of team, & by simply running without the ball when overlapping (which is a massive part of their game in that formation), he could stretch play to allow the left winger/AM to get more space.
It's a bit off the wall, but if you imagine that the left back position in that game sits just forward of the halfway line cos we have all the possession, it's a lot easier to envisage.
I'm torn on it, but I can see the argument, & he's played as a left back before, & we have other players who can do his role (which would be a right hand side winger as Rodgers plays with inverted wingers cutting in) much better than he, yet Enrique doesn't seem suited to this type of play.
If so, Downing may be better on the right, Stevie employed on the left.
However, someone on TAW podcast made an argument that against teams who sit with 11 men behind the ball at Anfield, he could acvtually be used as a left back.
Sounds bizarre, but they have little defensive responsibility in that setup against that type of team, & by simply running without the ball when overlapping (which is a massive part of their game in that formation), he could stretch play to allow the left winger/AM to get more space.
It's a bit off the wall, but if you imagine that the left back position in that game sits just forward of the halfway line cos we have all the possession, it's a lot easier to envisage.
I'm torn on it, but I can see the argument, & he's played as a left back before, & we have other players who can do his role (which would be a right hand side winger as Rodgers plays with inverted wingers cutting in) much better than he, yet Enrique doesn't seem suited to this type of play.
Fuck off, Stewart Downing. Seriously, I can't wait.
Exactamundo.
We know yeah, you've mentioned it a few times.
I too don't get the 'hate', he's better than he's shown so far but I don't get the hatred. We paid too much, he had a poor season, everyone deserves a clean slate now, the club as a whole wasn't good enough for numerous reasons, but with a few more additions things might click into place, not just for the team but for individuals too. I don't rate him that highly but he's far better than what we've seen so far.
He's certainly done a lot more than Henderson or Adam has done.
Well given that Adam had more assists than anybody in our team despite missing a third of the season and Downing had absolutely none, I'd beg to differ.
Nothing from nothing means nothing....
Modo - That simply isn't true. Stop being so bloody blinkered. He's set up heaps of chances - If the finishing were better he would have a dozen assists at least. I'm not saying he had a good season by any means - It was poor but I've seen enough of him to think that next season he will be much better. He's notorious for starting poorly at a new club - I reckon he will be mint this coming season.
Whatever we do with him, moving Stevie to the left should absolutely not be part of the plan. He's a shadow of himself over on that side.
Yeah. I do think moving him to the right is something which we should consider. He's excellent there, and his crossing from the right is fantastic ammunition for Carroll.
for the bazillionth time, assists is a fucking ridiculous stat to use when trying to determine a player's worth. Downing has created tons of chances. His crossing has improved immensely in the latter half of the season.
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