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Fekir MK II

We won’t be going after Cherki imho.
Hope we tap into the South American market.
We need a gem.
 
Elite ball skills, and this year he seems to be finally putting it together. 29 goal involvements, with 18 assists is very impressive.

That said, the knock against him in the past has been that he's been bit of a prima donna and lazy. Not sure if that is the sort of character we would want to sign tbh - Klopp would certainly have vetoed someone like that. Maybe we are more willing to take a risk with something like that now, or may be the concerns around his attitude are overblown. Let's see - as an alternative to Szoboszlai for the AM role, and as a RW backup to Salah, we could do a lot worse.

Also, with Trent's departure, we need to start setting up a more technical and creative midfield - so I do think we'll target an right-sided AM. I certainly prefer Cherki to Xavi Simons, who I think is pretty overrated.

The other very interesting player linked to us was Franco Mastantuono - 17 year old from River Plate. Supreme talent, already with 40+ first team appearances, and one of those rare teenagers who's physical development is far ahead of his peers.

He has a 35 million release clause I think, and I wonder if we will recruit directly from South America. Apparently, this was a bone of contention between Klopp/Lijnders and the recruitment team.


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Not sure at all about Cherki but agree about Simons. Not for the reasons you have proposed. RB group have a well defined style of play. Keita, Minamino, Szobo - haven't quite lived up to their billing. I believe certain type of players - these diet Gerrard and Torres type midfielders and attackers look world class in their system due to their style of play and the gaps and overall poor quality of defense in Bundesliga and Austrian league. You could see that with Dortmund also. Dortmund have received exorbitant amounts of money for players who look very good in their system. There will always be a Haaland, Lewandowski but one needs to be very very careful purchasing from these "systems" clubs.

Mastantuono looks quality.
 
If we’re genuinely considering Cherki we might as well consider moving Macca to the 10 position. More combative, potentially just as creative and lacking pace.
 
We won’t be going after Cherki imho.
Hope we tap into the South American market.
We need a gem.
Tbh I'm sceptical we will solely due to work permit issues.

Only ever seems to effect us mind.
 
Not sure at all about Cherki but agree about Simons. Not for the reasons you have proposed. RB group have a well defined style of play. Keita, Minamino, Szobo - haven't quite lived up to their billing. I believe certain type of players - these diet Gerrard and Torres type midfielders and attackers look world class in their system due to their style of play and the gaps and overall poor quality of defense in Bundesliga and Austrian league. You could see that with Dortmund also. Dortmund have received exorbitant amounts of money for players who look very good in their system. There will always be a Haaland, Lewandowski but one needs to be very very careful purchasing from these "systems" clubs.

Mastantuono looks quality.

I wouldnt put Szobo in the same category or profile.

You can see why Simons is highly regarded. He's a La Masia graduate, not a typical RB Group player.
He's 21 but was already putting up 31 goal involvements in 48 games for PSV (at 19). His link up with Gakpo was lethal.
41 G/A for Leipzig in 71 games. Can play as a AM, RW, LW and even as a striker.

The issue with him is the fee. Not that he wouldnt fit our team because of player profile.

From Breaking the Lines:
He’s a relentless presser and he has a top dueling power to content in duels. This is why he can function on the pitch as a deeper player because he has both on-the ball & off-the-ball qualities to match. Take his last full season at RB Leipzig for example.

He won the most possession of all players p90 and the frequency rate was only topped by the defensive midfielders, which goes to show how hard he works off the ball. To put Xavi’s hard work without the ball into context, he was ranked 9th in the Bundesliga for intensive runs with 2,326 accumulated across 32 starts in the 2023/24 season, accruing some 664 challenges attempted in total, which was more than any other Leipzig player in the Bundesliga. Of those 664, he won a hugely impressive 52.87% of his challenges.



I'd wager that we'll be in for him and interested for the right fee.
 
I’m surprised we haven’t been linked with Justin Kluivert - feels like he ticks a lot of the boxes we’d want - age, ability, experience, position(s), output and the fact he’s about the only Bournemouth player we haven’t been linked to.
 
Don't think thats an issue anymore. Which makes it a bit weird that we haven't signed anyone yet.
There'll be a reason we're not looking there. I think it'll be cost:risk ratio that the spreadsheet squad are very averse to upsetting
 
Rayan Cherki's top speed recorded by UEFA.com is 30.17 km/h. His average speed in matches is 29.5 km/h, and he covers an average distance of 3.28 km per match. He is a left-footed attacking midfielder/winger, known for his ball manipulation skills.

The other statement was clearly some kind of glitch (from copying to pasting). 3.28 km covered is not great. Its less than if you were walking the whole match @Modo
 
There'll be a reason we're not looking there. I think it'll be cost:risk ratio that the spreadsheet squad are very averse to upsetting

I think we’re looking but haven’t done anything yet. The multi club part will also be key.
 
I wouldnt put Szobo in the same category or profile.

You can see why Simons is highly regarded. He's a La Masia graduate, not a typical RB Group player.
He's 21 but was already putting up 31 goal involvements in 48 games for PSV (at 19). His link up with Gakpo was lethal.
41 G/A for Leipzig in 71 games. Can play as a AM, RW, LW and even as a striker.

The issue with him is the fee. Not that he wouldnt fit our team because of player profile.

From Breaking the Lines:
He’s a relentless presser and he has a top dueling power to content in duels. This is why he can function on the pitch as a deeper player because he has both on-the ball & off-the-ball qualities to match. Take his last full season at RB Leipzig for example.

He won the most possession of all players p90 and the frequency rate was only topped by the defensive midfielders, which goes to show how hard he works off the ball. To put Xavi’s hard work without the ball into context, he was ranked 9th in the Bundesliga for intensive runs with 2,326 accumulated across 32 starts in the 2023/24 season, accruing some 664 challenges attempted in total, which was more than any other Leipzig player in the Bundesliga. Of those 664, he won a hugely impressive 52.87% of his challenges.



I'd wager that we'll be in for him and interested for the right fee.
Is there a typical RB group player. I feel like most of them were opportunistic signings from youth academies in France, Spain and Africa. They do scour the globe.

Guess who had even more glowing reviews for his combativeness, winning duels, dribbling, intensive runs, challenges - Naby Keita. Here is an artcle from ringer in 2016 "Nobody can stop Naby": https://www.theringer.com/2016/12/0...the-most-exciting-team-in-europe-ee71baa26000

I would be very careful of purchasing midfielders or attackers from German based "systems" clubs.
 
Is there a typical RB group player. I feel like most of them were opportunistic signings from youth academies in France, Spain and Africa. They do scour the globe.

Guess who had even more glowing reviews for his combativeness, winning duels, dribbling, intensive runs, challenges - Naby Keita. Here is an artcle from ringer in 2016 "Nobody can stop Naby": https://www.theringer.com/2016/12/0...the-most-exciting-team-in-europe-ee71baa26000

I would be very careful of purchasing midfielders or attackers from German based "systems" clubs.

Keita had a very different club journey though. And also a completely different profile as a player.

I wouldnt call Simons just a German system player though. He has been successful in other leagues, countries, clubs and systems.
Barca youth (La Masia 9 years), PSG youth (3 years), PSV, Leipzig and Holland. 20 months in Germany doesn’t define him as a talent or profile. Very different career path.

Keita shouldn’t be the reason for us not signing Simons.
 
I like Simons. I still have doubts on whether his creativity is truly top-notch, but he’s hard-working and athetic with a real burst of pace. You could say he is somewhat of a hybrid of Cherki and Szoboszlai.
 
I’m surprised we haven’t been linked with Justin Kluivert - feels like he ticks a lot of the boxes we’d want - age, ability, experience, position(s), output and the fact he’s about the only Bournemouth player we haven’t been linked to.

He’s turning 26 in May. A little too old for our transfer strategy.
 
"Rayan Cherki's top speed is recorded as 30.17 km/h. While he is not known for being a blazing fast player, he is a strong, versatile player with good ball control and a high average distance covered per match (37.83 km). His strength and ball-carrying abilities allow him to maintain possession and progress the ball effectively"
Bloody hell! He's running a km every 142 secs! No time for football as he's circuiting the stadium 40 times a match!
 
So I checked the net and turns out the most obvious and depressing explanation is the correct one. The decimal point is in the wrong place
That's not right either because I think our guys run 9 -12 kms per match ?
 
Lower fees doesn't always equate to lesser quality players.

Remind me what Bournemouth paid for Kerkez & Huijsen? Or what Wolves paid for Joao Gomes & Andre, or what Forest paid for Murillo & Milenkovic, or what Villa paid for Rogers & Malen. We've lost our touch finding top talent, good value high quality talent.
Doesn't always obviously. However we can't afford to gamble on virtual unknowns who then turn into very good players. All of those clubs you named can & do and then sell their top players. Now name all those across the PL that disappeared without trace. It's very easy to point out names after they've progressed through the ranks.
 
Doesn't always obviously. However we can't afford to gamble on virtual unknowns who then turn into very good players. All of those clubs you named can & do and then sell their top players. Now name all those across the PL that disappeared without trace. It's very easy to point out names after they've progressed through the ranks.
It's not really a gamble when you learn and study the player and his potential which is what we should be doing, plus what's the alternative? Spending 60m+ on duds like Kepa, Pepe, Mount, Maguire, Pogba, Lukaku, Sancho, Enzo, Grealish, Doku, Richarlison, Solanke etc and all these others who turn to shit? Players that were being creamed over because they saw the price tags they were going for.

Either way you're going to have your share of good and poor signings.
 
Was trying to remember last time anyone signed anyone good from Leipzig. We should defo pause on any buys specifically from for this summer though till I do…
 
Bloody hell! He's running a km every 142 secs! No time for football as he's circuiting the stadium 40 times a match!
I pasted from Google AI which copied incorrectly from somewhere. Anyway, you'd think is about 7km per game, in actual fact its just over 3km per game. So the accusation he is lazy is very true.
 
Was trying to remember last time anyone signed anyone good from Leipzig. We should defo pause on any buys specifically from for this summer though till I do…

I'd say Gvardiol is pretty good if you close one eye to the price. Olmo as well. Cunha.

Like any club you buy from, they either turn out complete duds or superstars.
 
Have we? Nunez aside, what signings of ours were overpriced? We rebuilt a title winning midfield for just over the price of one Declan Rice and have largely inactive since.
This is why I have faith in FSG, we could have won it last season but for exausting the players in midfield and also bad finishing by the strike force.
 
I pasted from Google AI which copied incorrectly from somewhere. Anyway, you'd think is about 7km per game, in actual fact its just over 3km per game. So the accusation he is lazy is very true.
Fuck me I dont like walking and before homeworking I used to do that much daily. I am talking doing his upper range of 7km.
 
Dani Olmo, that

Haaland from RB Salazburg I think.
Mane from Southampton.

Oh you mean LIVERPOOL directly from RB ...
Haaland went to Dortmund, or RB L 1st? I'm getting old. Fuck I'm tired.
Olmo is solid - how's he done for Barca? I don't watch La Liga much anymore
 
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