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Fergie Rattled by Kenny Already

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LAUREN DALGLISH, we were once famously informed, had more sense at the age of six weeks than the manager of Manchester United. Little Lauren is
now a grown up 23, but she’d still struggle to tell us why Alex Ferguson has just shelled out £16m on a young centre-back with 35 Premier League appearances to his name.

Because the United manager himself might struggle to explain why.

No matter what potential Phil Jones possesses – and he’s already been compared to a young John Terry – he’s joined a club which already has a world class central defensive partnership in Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic, a club with accomplished back up in Chris Smalling, a club with another international class defender in Jonny Evans. And if that’s not enough, the small matter of Wes Brown and John O’Shea – with almost 700 first-team appearances between them.

Oh, and Ferguson still has designs on another up and coming young centre-back,18-year-old Raphael Varane from Lens.

Where does Phil Jones fit into all that?

Or could it be, just possibly, that Fergie got wind of Kenny Dalglish’s interest in the young defender and jumped first?

Kenny’s interest in the young Englishman wasn’t just paper talk. And it doesn’t end there.

Fergie 2 Kop 0, trumpeted the back page of one national newspaper this week, as they speculated that Ferguson also intended to ambush Liverpool’s interest in Ashley Young.

That’s another head scratcher.

Young is undeniably a fine player.

But he plays in the same position as Nani - more Premier League assists than any other player last season, the highly regarded Antonio Valencia, the vastly under-rated Ji Sung Park and the legendary Ryan Giggs.

So why would Ferguson be interested?

If you think the United boss wouldn’t be so petty as to snap up players simply because his Scottish rival wanted them, then you won’t remember his discomfiture at Liverpool signing Glenn Hysen back in 1989.

A classy, ball-playing Swedish centre-half, Hysen had toured Old Trafford, enjoyed a buffet lunch, shaken hands on a deal with chairman Martin Edwards then flown back to Italy.

Negotiations mysteriously stalled, and when Ferguson and Edwards flew out to Florence to investigate why, Hysen’s agent told them that his client had already signed for Liverpool.

Ferguson’s fury multiplied when the Swede was named Man of the Match on his debut at Wembley in the FA Charity Shield and became the defensive lynchpin of Liverpool’s last title winning team.

Kenny couldn’t resist having a little nibble in his 1996 autobiography.

“Journalists made a fuss about me nipping in for Glenn Hysen when Fergie was about to sign him. That doesn’t create rancour; that’s business,” he wrote.

“We are both going for the best players. Sometimes managers of PLC clubs like Manchester United cannot spend money quickly.

“They have to get permission from the PLC board. If United’s wheels move slowly, that’s no concern of mine.”

Ferguson will have committed those words to heart. And he was desperate to ensure that the wheels moved quicker this summer.

That Hysen anecdote came in an entire chapter devoted to Dalglish’s relationship with Ferguson.

In it the Liverpool boss stressed over and over that there is no feud, no animosity, no simmering resentment.

I believe him.

But of course there’s a keen rivalry.

How could there not fail to be between two Glaswegians managing Liverpool and Manchester United?

Kenny Dalglish has always got under Alex Ferguson’s skin – and it promises to make for great viewing next season.

Ferguson thinks he’s finally knocked Liverpool off their perch.

But there’s a manager back in town who’s already got him rattled. This week’s transfer business underlines it.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2011/06/10/david-prentice-fergie-already-rattled-by-liverpool-fc-s-squad-plans-100252-28853719/3/#ixzz1OrtrTFj4
 
good read, i cant help to think this is nearing the same level as the 'pro united' media though, baconface wouldnt have bought those players just to get one over on us, thats a bit silly really
 
[quote author=Lewy link=topic=45690.msg1346950#msg1346950 date=1307702698]
good read, i cant help to think this is nearing the same level as the 'pro united' media though, baconface wouldnt have bought those players just to get one over on us, thats a bit silly really
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Yeah, it's defo biased, but I reckon it's made Fergie shoot his load early, he wanted Jones, but not till next summer.

If I'm right, that means he's gotta get extra cash from the board now (unlikely), or put another signing back a year, either way, we've forced his hand early & potentially left him short another key player next season, whilst he's overstocked at the back.
 
Oh, and Ferguson still has designs on another up and coming young centre-back,18-year-old Raphael Varane from Lens.

Maybe we should be looking at this fella then?
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=45690.msg1346957#msg1346957 date=1307703101]
[quote author=Lewy link=topic=45690.msg1346950#msg1346950 date=1307702698]
good read, i cant help to think this is nearing the same level as the 'pro united' media though, baconface wouldnt have bought those players just to get one over on us, thats a bit silly really
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Yeah, it's defo biased, but I reckon it's made Fergie shoot his load early, he wanted Jones, but not till next summer.

If I'm right, that means he's gotta get extra cash from the board now (unlikely), or put another signing back a year, either way, we've forced his hand early & potentially left him short another key player next season, whilst he's overstocked at the back.
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Yes. Thats what I was thinking too. If two of their big signings are Jones and De Gea, well they were already very strong defensively anyway. In fact its what won them the league last season. It will of course make sure that they are strong for years to come but it isnt making them any better than they already are.
 
Prentice is a blue who can be very bitter towards liverpool on occassions. I actually think its a poor article to be honest. He's claiming the sole reason fergie signed him is cos we wanted him an he's got no chance of getting in the utd team.

Erm brown and oshea look like going to sunderland, ferdinand is a perma crock whos nearing the end of his career. So implying the kid won't get a game is a bit silly.
 
Agreed, and if he's as good as he's made out to be, like it or not, he's going to improve them.
 
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=45690.msg1347011#msg1347011 date=1307705259]
Agreed, and if he's as good as he's made out to be, like it or not, he's going to improve them.
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He isnt going to improve them. Rio and Vidic are as good as it gets.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=45690.msg1347059#msg1347059 date=1307709088]
It's not a good article at all. It's inaccurate one-eyed pap.
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Yup.
 
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=45690.msg1347021#msg1347021 date=1307705589]
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=45690.msg1347011#msg1347011 date=1307705259]
Agreed, and if he's as good as he's made out to be, like it or not, he's going to improve them.
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He isnt going to improve them. Rio and Vidic are as good as it gets.
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When Rio plays and Vidic has his head on straight, yes, but Jones will certainly improve their squad (if the deal goes through).
 
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=45690.msg1347021#msg1347021 date=1307705589]
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=45690.msg1347011#msg1347011 date=1307705259]
Agreed, and if he's as good as he's made out to be, like it or not, he's going to improve them.
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He isnt going to improve them. Rio and Vidic are as good as it gets.
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And they play every game of the season, do they.

If Jones is better than Evans, Brown and O'Shea alone, he'd have improved them.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=45690.msg1347059#msg1347059 date=1307709088]
It's not a good article at all. It's inaccurate one-eyed pap.
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I still enjoyed the bias it showed towards us.

Ha.
 
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=45690.msg1347086#msg1347086 date=1307712025]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=45690.msg1347021#msg1347021 date=1307705589]
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=45690.msg1347011#msg1347011 date=1307705259]
Agreed, and if he's as good as he's made out to be, like it or not, he's going to improve them.
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He isnt going to improve them. Rio and Vidic are as good as it gets.
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And they play every game of the season, do they.

If Jones is better than Evans, Brown and O'Shea alone, he'd have improved them.
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I didnt say that they play all the time. You are missing my point which is that Rio and Vidic are their best pairing. Jones will not improve on that.

Just as De Gea will not improve on VDS, and just as Young will not improve on Nani ( if he leaves). Basically their best 11 will not have improved significantly at all because they are replacing players with their equal.

I would hope that any signings we make will actually improve our first 11 considerably.
 
[quote author=Richey link=topic=45690.msg1346967#msg1346967 date=1307703630]

Oh, and Ferguson still has designs on another up and coming young centre-back,18-year-old Raphael Varane from Lens.

Maybe we should be looking at this fella then?
[/quote]Read an article to say we are.
I think I posted it in the Phil Jones thread.
 
Prentice is a blue nose and Dixie Deans son-in-law, so the bias is a bit strange, he sometimes can't resist a pop, there is clearly not enough Everton news to keep them going

regards
 
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