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Carroll would be demoted to 46 if Torres were to return.

Which he won't.
 
Malaga are rated the most likely team to sign Torres in the transfer window with Boylesports and Hills both rating the big-spending La Liga side 11-2 to do a deal with Chelsea. A sensational return to Liverpool for Torres is quoted at 14-1 by Hills.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47645.msg1444139#msg1444139 date=1323977545]
He's not coming back
[/quote]I hope we are not going to have a repeat of theses threads, just like we did with Mickey Owen, every time there is a transfer window.
Perhaps it would be easier if Torres just went to Man U, and then it wouldn't be a concern.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=47645.msg1444188#msg1444188 date=1323986666]
He could be the best player in the world, and I still wouldn't want him.
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Really? You wouldn't want a top class player (proven) coming back to Liverpool? I'm surprised.
 
Liverpool could lose every game for the next 50 years without scoring a goal and I'd still support them.

But I hate the fact that these super rich, utter bellends have ruined football for me.
 
'Would you take that cunt that left us back for a knockdown fee?'

2009 - Michael Owen.
2011 - Fernando Torres

Here's hoping in 2013 we're asking the same question about Andy Carroll.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=47645.msg1444195#msg1444195 date=1323987337]
Liverpool could lose every game for the next 50 years without scoring a goal and I'd still support them.

But I hate the fact that these super rich, utter bellends have ruined football for me.
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Yep, it's just not the same anymore. Only going to get worse as well.
 
'Oh woe is me, football is so shit and full of cunts these days. I hate the modern way of the game and how it's so utterly lacking in morals and dignity, and what it's become but I'll still sit here for 4 hours every day debating every single fucking thing about it'.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47645.msg1444210#msg1444210 date=1323990094]
'Oh woe is me, football is so shit and full of cunts these days. I hate the modern way of the game and how it's so utterly lacking in morals and dignity, and what it's become but I'll still sit here for 4 hours every day debating every single fucking thing about it'.
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Ha.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47645.msg1444210#msg1444210 date=1323990094]
'Oh woe is me, football is so shit and full of cunts these days. I hate the modern way of the game and how it's so utterly lacking in morals and dignity, and what it's become but I'll still sit here for 4 hours every day debating every single fucking thing about it'.
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Aye well doh, saying it's not the same anymore doesn't mean you're going to lose interest in it completely.

Just finding it more and more difficult to stomach the modern day footballers. The sums of money they earn is just scandalous really. Any way you look at it, it's fucking sick.

To make matters worse, most of them are bellends.
 
Why do people get so bothered about the amount of money footballers earn? And so what if they're bellends?

It's not like footballers back in the day weren't bellends either. They were just poorer bellends.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47645.msg1444204#msg1444204 date=1323989463]
'Would you take that cunt that left us back for a knockdown fee?'

2009 - Michael Owen.
2011 - Fernando Torres

Here's hoping in 2013 we're asking the same question about Andy Carroll.
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Great.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=47645.msg1444225#msg1444225 date=1323991999]
Why do people get so bothered about the amount of money footballers earn? And so what if they're bellends?

It's not like footballers back in the day weren't bellends either. They were just poorer bellends.
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yeah it's only money, not like there's a major recession out there or anything. all these footballers simply must earn anything from £50,000-£200,000 PER WEEK!

Footballers back in the day were proper men - not a bunch of moaning, diving, petulant twats.
 
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=47645.msg1444229#msg1444229 date=1323992283]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=47645.msg1444225#msg1444225 date=1323991999]
Why do people get so bothered about the amount of money footballers earn? And so what if they're bellends?

It's not like footballers back in the day weren't bellends either. They were just poorer bellends.
[/quote]

yeah it's only money, not like there's a major recession out there or anything. all these footballers simply must earn anything from £50,000-£200,000 PER WEEK!

Footballers back in the day were proper men - not a bunch of moaning, diving, petulant twats.
[/quote]Its relative to the earnings of the sport though.
In the 70's a club earned a million a year now they earn 150m a year.
 
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=47645.msg1444229#msg1444229 date=1323992283]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=47645.msg1444225#msg1444225 date=1323991999]
Why do people get so bothered about the amount of money footballers earn? And so what if they're bellends?

It's not like footballers back in the day weren't bellends either. They were just poorer bellends.
[/quote]

yeah it's only money, not like there's a major recession out there or anything. all these footballers simply must earn anything from £50,000-£200,000 PER WEEK!

Footballers back in the day were proper men - not a bunch of moaning, diving, petulant twats.
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So you'd rather the money went to footballs governing bodies and the likes of the Glazers, H&G et al. instead of the players?

They can always sell their medals in a time of need (if they were fortunate enough to win some) if things get hard. Just like some of those proper men have done.
 
Ah, the old "It's disgusting and I'm personally appalled that players earn X when there are nurses out there that earn Y" argument is here again.
 
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[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=47645.msg1444229#msg1444229 date=1323992283]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=47645.msg1444225#msg1444225 date=1323991999]
Why do people get so bothered about the amount of money footballers earn? And so what if they're bellends?

It's not like footballers back in the day weren't bellends either. They were just poorer bellends.
[/quote]

yeah it's only money, not like there's a major recession out there or anything. all these footballers simply must earn anything from £50,000-£200,000 PER WEEK!

Footballers back in the day were proper men - not a bunch of moaning, diving, petulant twats.
[/quote]Its relative to the earnings of the sport though.
In the 70's a club earned a million a year now they earn 150m a year.
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I realise that, but i'm just of the opinion the money they get is way, way OTT. Not the players fault of course, but it's still hard to stomach all the same.

I'm not underestimating their importance and the fact that they deserve to be very well paid, but the sums of money they get nowadays is beyond the pale imo.
 
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=47645.msg1444236#msg1444236 date=1323993067]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47645.msg1444230#msg1444230 date=1323992475]
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=47645.msg1444229#msg1444229 date=1323992283]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=47645.msg1444225#msg1444225 date=1323991999]
Why do people get so bothered about the amount of money footballers earn? And so what if they're bellends?

It's not like footballers back in the day weren't bellends either. They were just poorer bellends.
[/quote]

yeah it's only money, not like there's a major recession out there or anything. all these footballers simply must earn anything from £50,000-£200,000 PER WEEK!

Footballers back in the day were proper men - not a bunch of moaning, diving, petulant twats.
[/quote]Its relative to the earnings of the sport though.
In the 70's a club earned a million a year now they earn 150m a year.
[/quote]

I realise that, but i'm just of the opinion the money they get is way, way OTT. Not the players fault of course, but it's still hard to stomach all the same.

I'm not underestimating their importance and the fact that they deserve to be very well paid, but the sums of money they get nowadays is beyond the pale imo.
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Especially when there are kids in africa that are starving and all.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47645.msg1444235#msg1444235 date=1323992937]
Ah, the old "It's disgusting and I'm personally appalled that players earn X when there are nurses out there that earn Y" argument is here again.
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Nurses? Who mentioned them?
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=47645.msg1444214#msg1444214 date=1323990378]
OK, I think it's all wonderful.

Thanks.
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You do make a point of saying how you think modern football is shit and you think 99% of footballers are cunts, so why put yourself through the agony ?

If something pisses me off that much, I fuck it off.

I don't understand what keeps you interested enough in football to discuss it on a forum for years if you have such a distaste for it.

Just sayin'
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47645.msg1444238#msg1444238 date=1323993108]
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=47645.msg1444236#msg1444236 date=1323993067]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47645.msg1444230#msg1444230 date=1323992475]
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=47645.msg1444229#msg1444229 date=1323992283]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=47645.msg1444225#msg1444225 date=1323991999]
Why do people get so bothered about the amount of money footballers earn? And so what if they're bellends?

It's not like footballers back in the day weren't bellends either. They were just poorer bellends.
[/quote]

yeah it's only money, not like there's a major recession out there or anything. all these footballers simply must earn anything from £50,000-£200,000 PER WEEK!

Footballers back in the day were proper men - not a bunch of moaning, diving, petulant twats.
[/quote]Its relative to the earnings of the sport though.
In the 70's a club earned a million a year now they earn 150m a year.
[/quote]

I realise that, but i'm just of the opinion the money they get is way, way OTT. Not the players fault of course, but it's still hard to stomach all the same.

I'm not underestimating their importance and the fact that they deserve to be very well paid, but the sums of money they get nowadays is beyond the pale imo.
[/quote]

Especially when there are kids in africa that are starving and all.
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Yeah, because i said that didn't i?
 
I don't like football much themn, I like Liverpool and don't give a shit about the rest. But you're right, I won't get involved.

I guess after loving something for 25 years or whatever it's difficult to stop paying attention though.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=47645.msg1444242#msg1444242 date=1323993316]
I don't like football much themn, I like Liverpool and don't give a shit about the rest. But you're right, I won't get involved.

I guess after loving something for 25 years or whatever it's difficult to stop paying attention though.
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Thing is, you've even said all our players are cunts (apart from Dirk obv.) so I don't understand what keeps you caring what the club does in the "modern" era.

It fucks me of hugely that Ray Kennedy needs a charity setting up for him, when ball bags like Diouf and that penis that looks like Roger Daltrey are millionaires.

But, I still find more than enough beauty, skill, humanity and joy in the game to keep me hooked.
 
Perhaps I'm just losing interest. I don't know.

Obviously I want us to win. When we lose though people like spidey will go on about it forever, in the tiniest detail, whereas I don't seem that bothered anymore.

I love Liverpool and always win. Fuck knows what I'm talking about. I don't even know myself.

In Kenny we trust.
 
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