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Gini Whine-aldum

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“There was a moment when I didn’t feel loved and appreciated,” he says. “Not my teammates, not the people at Melwood. From them, I know … I can say they all love me and I love them. It was not from that side, more the other side.”

“I have to say also there was social media,” Wijnaldum says. “When it went bad, I was the player who they blamed – that I wanted to leave. Every day in training and in the games, I gave everything I had to bring it to a good end because, during the years, Liverpool meant so much to me and because of the way the fans in the stadium were treating me.

“My feeling was that the fans in the stadium and the fans on social media were two different kinds. The fans in the stadium always supported me. Even when they came back [after the Covid lockout], already knowing that I was going to leave, they still supported me and, in the end, they gave me a great farewell.

“On social media, if we lost, I was the one who got the blame. There was a moment when I was like: ‘Wow. If they only knew what I was doing to stay fit and play every game.’ Other players might have said: ‘OK, I am not fit.’ You get players in their last year who are like: ‘I’m not playing because it is a risk.’ I did the opposite.

“I didn’t always play good but, after the game, I could look in the mirror and say: ‘I gave it all. I trained hard to get better.’ Even with the physios … I took the most possible treatment I could get. I cannot remember when I had a day off because I played so many games and basically it was too much for the body but I did everything to stay fit.”

Asked to specify when the moment was that he felt unloved and unappreciated, he says: “Not towards the end, also before that. Basically in the last two seasons I had it a few times.” He was unhappy at how his part in the stand-off was sometimes portrayedand it added up to something that he could never truly escape.

“There was a story that Liverpool made an offer, I didn’t accept because I wanted more money and the fans made it like: ‘OK, he didn’t get the offer, so he doesn’t try his best to win games,’” Wijnaldum says. “Then the results were not really good and everything looked like it was against me. Some moments, it was like: ‘Wow, me again?’ It’s a collective. But my teammates never gave me the feeling that I let them down or I was taking the piss or something like that. With the team everything was fine.

“It was difficult to speak about football because every time, it was: ‘What are you going to do?’ Even my friends would read something and come to me and say: ‘Is this true? Oh, you are going to do this?’ I would say: ‘You will see what is going to happen.’ I just didn’t want to talk about it because it was: ‘My future this, my future that.’ That was basically my last season at Liverpool – the future of Gini Wijnaldum, not beautiful things on the pitch.”

About the CL semi vs Barca

“Klopp probably spoke to me [during half-time] but I was so angry [at having been dropped] that I didn’t listen to him,” Wijnaldum says. “The only moment I listened to him was when the morning training stopped and he said: ‘Gini, you have to be ready because I need you when you come on.’

“When I did come on, Pep Lijnders [the assistant manager] told me that when we built up I had to come into a back three to get the ball with the wing-backs higher. In my head, I was like: ‘No, no, no. I’m not going to do that. I just try to play up front, try to score goals.’ I was so angry that I wanted to do my own thing and, in the end, it helped.”


Sauce: https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...cial-media-i-was-blamed-if-liverpool-lost-psg
 
I honestly don't really care about his moaning. The interesting part for me is what he said about the CL semi final.
I kinda had a feeling that it was mainly our tactics that stifled his attacking game, because he looks entirely different when he's playing for the Dutch national team.

I guess it's a blessing that he basically told Klopp and Ljinders to fuck off and played his game against Barca. He should have done it more often.
 
He can fuck off. Imagine Karius or Adrian reading that. Abuse me hole. You wanted more money and fucked off for that reason. End of.
 
Ridiculous. There will always be idiots on social media, professional players need to overcome their moaning or make all accounts private. He goes on to say that he felt the love from his team-mates, all at Melwood and from the crowd ... yet his decisions are influenced by a minority on SM? What a load of bollocks. You are embarrassing yourself Gini, Carra was spot on.
 
I hope he doesn’t read this thread - I have a feeling he’s going to feel even less loved.
 
I honestly don't really care about his moaning. The interesting part for me is what he said about the CL semi final.
I kinda had a feeling that it was mainly our tactics that stifled his attacking game, because he looks entirely different when he's playing for the Dutch national team.

I guess it's a blessing that he basically told Klopp and Ljinders to fuck off and played his game against Barca. He should have done it more often.
Most of the time he was a fucking spaz in front of goal playing for us. So can you blame the staff for thinking that way?
 
The impression this nonsense from Wijnaldum gives me is that of a guy who, deep down, didn't actually want to go, maybe also feels a bit ashamed that he did so for money's sake above all, and is somewhat desperately trying to convince himself that he's done the right thing. Maybe a Torres/Coutinho Mk.2 in the making?
 
Oh you can just tell he was begging for some racist abuse, with all his heart, banking on it, and it never came, never arrived to wash away his greedy cunt behaviour. So we now have this pathetic snowflake cringeworthy acting to desperately protect his brand.
 
The impression this nonsense from Wijnaldum gives me is that of a guy who, deep down, didn't actually want to go, maybe also feels a bit ashamed that he did so for money's sake above all, and is somewhat desperately trying to convince himself that he's done the right thing. Maybe a Torres/Coutinho Mk.2 in the making?

I dunno Jules - he’ll likely comfort himself with triple back-to-back domestic clean sweeps and probably at least one more Champions League winners medal.

He’s probably ducking ecstatic he didn’t end up at the shit show in Barca.

He’s probably also ecstatic he isn’t the subject of “why did we give that c**t another contract” threads on Liverpool forums for the next 3 years as well.

And he got a pay rise.
 
He was a bit of a water carrier for us, so it will never carry as much hurt as Coutinho or Torres leaving, more akin to what Can did, and look what happened to him.

Carragher needs to shut the fuck up. As for Gini, this isn't anything we didn't already know, the club play the pauper when they want to. That's why we're seeing the Hendo stories now and that's why we will go into this season thinking the front 3/4 is enough to win the league. It's not, but we'll have a nice new stand and will get told about long term prospects that will never materialize.
 
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Imo replace didn’t feel appreciated by social media fans with didn’t feel appreciated financially and you’ve got the truth. I actually agree with him but Gini has to blame himself and his agent for that.

these boring stories are exactly what @Judge Jules said
 
PARIS SAINT GERMAIN defender Mauricio Pochettino has expressed his anger at the club's fans who attacked the team plane following their defeat at Guingamp.
PSG went down to a 3-2 defeat at Guingamp and furious fans of the capital club followed the team bus when it left the ground.
Angry after watching their side throw away a two-goal lead, the PSG fans followed the squad to tiny Brittany airport Saint Brieuc and proceeded to throw stones at the plane.
"We can't tolerate things like that, the violence that happened," said Pochettino.
"I will not tolerate what happened at the airport on Saturday even if I understand the anger.
"We must ask all the supporters' groups to be united - we must not be at daggers drawn with the supporters because nothing will work.
"We were not frightened at the airport. We were frightened because of the plane, that the supporters might abuse the plane and that something serious could happen afterwards."
PSG coach Luis Fernandez was forced to confront the fans and persuade them to leave the runway, but he has more sympathy for the disgruntled followers who have seen them drop away from the title picture.
"I spoke to the fans, I often communicate with them and they want to understand how their club is down in 12th in the table, that's normal.
"There was no violence, I can't confirm that the plane and the bus was stoned. We have to put that behind us."

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/2258925/psg-anger-at-fans-attack

Paris Saint-Germain players ran a gauntlet of hate and abuse after they invited 500 of their diehard fans to witness a training session on Sunday having earlier been blasted as “shameless” and “spineless”.
Just days after their last-minute exit at the hands of Manchester United in the Champions League, the French giants’ decision to invite some fans back to the Parc des Princes spectacularly back-fired.
The squad’s first get-together since Wednesday’s last 16 defeat was switched after the words “Shameful! Spineless” and “Respect us” were graffitied at their Camp de Loges training base on Friday.

The 500 or so PSG ‘Ultras’ allowed into the ground on Sunday then screamed “Bunch of bastards” and “Show us your balls” towards the players on the field, according to videos posted on social media.
Captain Thiago Silva and defender Marquinhos attempted to calm the crowd by pleading on the public address system but their pleas were drowned out by further verbal abuse, newspaper Le Parisian reported.
The taunting, as well as the noise of firecrackers and smoke bombs, echoed around the stadium and could be heard outside the ground.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/footba...n/news-story/96254b4777932d11b41935f270bfa05e
 
I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's often not fun to play in our midfield. I hope we don't grind the fun out of Jones' game.
 
Oh, so he wasn't only absolute dogshit but also a fucking thundercunt?

Who would have thunk, eh.

I'm glad that useless piece of shit left my club.
 
I just sent my friends flowers for a stillbirth and it was more fun than reading any post you've ever made.

Oh, he won us a European cup.

And why would anyone send flowers for a stillbirth?

You're really weird. Anyways, fuck off.
 
Disagree with most of the comments in this thread.

Of course money is a big part of contract negotiations, and he SHOULD feel undervalued in comparison to the wages that Milner, Thiago, AOC and Keita have been getting these past couple of years. All players he's been ahead of.

But it's also true that the fans have not really appreciated him, because he was a consistent, if not unpectacular player. We only have to take a straw poll of this forum to realise that most people aren't fussed with him going, despite his fabulous availability record. And the big moments he's had in a red shirt.

It's quite interesting that the reactions towards Hendo and his contract negotiation hasn't been "his agent is looking for too much money or too long a contract" but critique of the clubs "stingy owners". But if Gini asks for the same amount, or even a little less, he's being tainted with the "greedy fucker" angle.

It can't just be that he felt undervalued by fans online (rightly so) AND undervalued by the club in contract negotiations (rightly so).
 
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Disagree with most of the comments in this thread.

Of course money is a big part of contract negotiations, and he SHOULD feel undervalued in comparison to the wages that Milner, Thiago, AOC and Keita have been getting these past couple of years. All players he's been ahead of.

But it's also true that the fans have not really appreciated him, because he was a consistent, if not unpectacular player. We only have to take a straw poll of this forum to realise that most people aren't fussed with him going, despite his fabulous availability record. And the big moments he's had in a red shirt.

It's quite interesting that the reactions towards Hendo and his contract negotiation hasn't been "his agent is looking for too much money or too long a contract" but critique of the clubs "stingy owners". But if Gini asks for the same amount, or even a little less, he's being tainted with the "greedy fucker" angle.

It can't just be that he felt undervalued by fans online (rightly so) AND undervalued by the club in contract negotiations (rightly so).
Also, Gini is a better player than Henderson.
 
Imo replace didn’t feel appreciated by social media fans with didn’t feel appreciated financially and you’ve got the truth. I actually agree with him but Gini has to blame himself and his agent for that.

these boring stories are exactly what @Judge Jules said
But seriously, he did deserve a better contract. I understand him being pissed off when fucking Ox and Banana are making more money than him.
 
But we must have offered him a contract a couple of years before. He didn't take it back then obviously. We continue to have a contract ready for him if he wanted. It wasn't enough.

So he got his free transfer to the highest bidder, and rumoured of a huge pay package, bigger than ours or even Barcelona's.

So all's well ends well for him. He gave us 5 years of good service, we elevated him to become the player who could command such a pay package. It's all fair game.

Not sure what is he's whining about. He got his millions in the end and then some.
 
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