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Guardian journos preview the Premier League...

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... and I bet some of them are SCM members, looking at their gloomy outlook for us. 😀

The collective prediction from them is that we'll finish 5th in the coming season, after (1) Chelsea, (2) City, (3) Man Utd (they're not up for preview yet but it's a no-brainer who they have in mind here since they're the only big club not previewed yet), (4) Arsenal.

Nothing groundbreaking in the article though. Just a summary of everything we already know.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/aug/08/premier-league-2014-15-preview-liverpool

Premier League 2014-15 preview No9: Liverpool

Brendan Rodgers’ philosophy is embedded as Liverpool enter the season in need of fine-tuning rather than a tactical overhaul. But can they take the next step without Luis Suárez?

Guardian writers’ predicted position: 5th (NB: this is not necessarily Andy Hunter’s prediction but the average of our writers’ tips)

Last season’s position: 2nd

Odds to win the league (via Oddschecker): 12-1

The houses that lined Lothair Road behind the Main Stand at Anfield are all gone now, their bricks and histories bulldozed into oblivion in readiness for a new 21,000-seater construction that is due to rise in 2016.

Rebuilding will follow the demolition and, so put-upon residents plus Liverpool City Council desperately hope, regeneration will follow the rebuilding. What is envisaged outside Anfield is mirrored within, minus the hard hat for project leader Brendan Rodgers.

Rodgers’s wrecking ball arrived via Barcelona, dropped £75m and swung away with Luis Suárez clinging on by his big, busy teeth. How Liverpool cope with the damage is the great conundrum of pre-season, answers ranging from another title challenge – foreseen on this occasion – consolidation in the top four or squeezed back to the margins all carrying weight. And all influenced by the club’s ability to sign another leading striker before the transfer deadline and tighten up at the back afterwards.

Beyond dispute is Liverpool’s mantle as a contender and their reaction to Suárez’s exit. For all the revisionism that has occurred subsequently – he distorted Rodgers’s preferred system, we didn’t want him representing our club anyway ad nauseam – the Uruguay international was the world-class inspiration behind the club’s strongest title challenge of the Premier League era. The blow prompted a swift and considered response.

There have been seven incomings at the time of writing with negotiations continuing for an eighth, the Sevilla left-back Alberto Moreno. Loïc Rémy would have made it nine but for the collapse of a £8.5m transfer from Queens Park Rangers and Liverpool are not finished yet, in or out. Several weak spots Rodgers identified when he arrived as Liverpool manager in 2012 and which undermined the team’s thrilling title challenge last season have been addressed, so too the squad’s depth with a four-season absence from the Champions League over.

Comparisons have been made with Tottenham Hotspur’s scatter-gun spending of the Gareth Bale money but do not stack up. Liverpool played 43 competitive fixtures last season with no European football on the agenda, a blow to prestige that their manager accurately predicted would benefit the team for one season only. Integrating several new faces will naturally take time and not all will settle instantly but that does not apply to three recruits from Southampton. As Rodgers said, with a dig at the club he rejected owing to constant managerial upheaval at White Hart Lane: “It’s a different club and different vision we have here. At Liverpool there’s a strategy behind what we are doing.”

Clearly, Liverpool anticipated Suárez’s departure long before he received a four-month ban for biting Giorgio Chiellini at the World Cup and began issuing apologies designed for Catalonian ears. Clearly, they considered the loaded question of how to replace an incredible individual talent like Suárez and reached the obvious conclusion; you cannot.

Rodgers has rebuilt around the Suárez void, increased creativity and energy in the final third through Adam Lallana and Lazar Markovic, added Emre Can’s strength to central midfield, competition for Glen Johnson’s right-back role in Javier Manquillo, a different option up front in Rickie Lambert and, most importantly, a more authoritative presence at centre-half in Dejan Lovren. Whether the defensive reconstruction has gone far enough is debatable and reliant on Manquillo plus Moreno adapting quickly from Spanish football. There remains a need for a dominant voice to emerge from goalkeeper Simon Mignolet, Martin Skrtel, Mamadou Sakho and Daniel Agger, although the Dane’s Anfield future is in doubt.

Rodgers has greater options, his squad appears stronger and the team’s outstanding performances last season should instil a confidence to withstand the shock of their late collapse in the title race. The manager’s philosophy and style are embedded, the club has advanced ahead of schedule as a result, and Liverpool enter the campaign in need of fine-tuning rather than a tactical overhaul. But can they immediately take that next, critical step without Suárez? Clubs rarely improve by selling their best player, and Liverpool’s best player was the one Rodgers had developed his team around.

Suárez brought far more than 31 Premier League goals to Liverpool last term. His movement and instinct petrified opposition defenders, team-mates prospered from his creativity and from the example he set with his relentless will-to-win. Daniel Sturridge may not entirely agree with that final assessment, having received a few public rollickings from his former strike partner, but it is imperative the England international embraces the position of Liverpool’s leader striker following the finest season of his career and the responsibility that comes with it.

“I think you’ll see Daniel go on to another level again this season, with the confidence of a full campaign last year and scoring the goals he did,” Rodgers said. “Hopefully he can stay injury free.”

Sturridge’s 21 goals flowed from his own development as much as Suárez’s vision last term and the onus is on the 24-year-old to improve as a team player. He has Lambert to share that load, a more rounded striker than credited for beyond Southampton, a necessary alternative and a significant improvement on the departed Iago Aspas. Lambert can strike a dead ball for a start. Rodgers has not brought the England international back to his boyhood club on a misguided sentimental journey yet, right now, Sturridge, Lambert and the unwanted Fabio Borini represent Liverpool’s post-Suárez attack. The need to strengthen is glaring, as the manager has stated frequently in recent weeks.

The Sunderland target Borini and Sturridge missed the final game of Liverpool’s pre-season tour of the United States through injury, leaving Lambert to lead the line against Manchester United in Miami. On the basis of deals done, Liverpool have spent £90m this summer and recouped £75.5m. Even if those sums rise to £106m spent and £78m recouped in the coming days the club, with money left over from January, the new broadcasting deal and the return ticket to the Champions League, have the funds for a proven striker. A recent inquiry for Monaco’s Radamel Falcao, though thwarted, indicates the pedigree being targeted.

And yet Liverpool’s campaign rests on more than replacing the guile and goals that have been transferred to Barcelona. One of Rodgers’ first aims as Liverpool manager was to improve the team’s proficiency in front of goal. Job done. Now he must improve the protection afforded the Liverpool goal.

Manchester City scored 102 goals to Liverpool’s 101 in winning the league last season but conceded only 37 to Liverpool’s 50. Crystal Palace, who spent most of the season fighting relegation before rising to 11th under Tony Pulis, conceded 48. Chelsea scored 30 goals fewer than Rodgers’ side but, in shipping only 27 all season, finished two points behind in third. Even a modest reduction in Liverpool’s goals against column last season could have made a monumental difference.

Much, therefore, depends on Lovren, the discipline of the three midfielders in front of him, Steven Gerrard’s reaction to what he described as “probably the worst three months of my life”, the continued upward trajectory of Raheem Sterling and the business Liverpool can or cannot conduct before close of play on 1 September.

In Rodgers, Liverpool possess one of the most astute, forward-thinking coaches in the game. His rebuilding work may run parallel to the new Main Stand proposals and come to fruition in 2016 but his foundations, if not the world-class striker, are in place.
 
And FWIW, here's what their 2013/2014 season preview looked like:

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/aug/16/premier-league-predictions-guardian-writers

1) Chelsea
2) Manchester City
3) Manchester United
4) Tottenham Hotspur
5) Arsenal
6) Liverpool
7) Swansea City
8) Everton
9) West Bromwich Albion
10) Aston Villa
11) West Ham United
12) Newcastle United
13) Fulham
14) Southampton
15) Norwich City
16) Sunderland
17) Stoke City
18) Cardiff City
19) Crystal Palace
20) Hull City
 
It's the Manchester Guardian. Very apt.

They do have some very good column writers who cover the other leagues though; I like reading what they put out (Sid Lowe, Rafael Honigstein, Paolo Baldini). The rest, not so much, though it's sometimes quite fun to read Louise Taylor's pieces that take a dig at Newcastle. And Michael Cox's post-match reviews can sometimes be quite interesting.
 
And FWIW, here's what their 2013/2014 season preview looked like:

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/aug/16/premier-league-predictions-guardian-writers

1) Chelsea
2) Manchester City
3) Manchester United
4) Tottenham Hotspur
5) Arsenal
6) Liverpool
7) Swansea City
8) Everton
9) West Bromwich Albion
10) Aston Villa
11) West Ham United
12) Newcastle United
13) Fulham
14) Southampton
15) Norwich City
16) Sunderland
17) Stoke City
18) Cardiff City
19) Crystal Palace
20) Hull City
That's pretty reasonable going into last season I would say.
 
That's pretty reasonable going into last season I would say.

That's true. Aston Villa at #10 was the craziest pick though, given they had barely escaped relegation the season before that. The others seem more or less reasonable based on the 2012/2013 finish - though it would've been reasonable to bump LFC up a notch or two as well given how we'd performed in the 2nd half of the 2012/2013 season.
 
That's true. Aston Villa at #10 was the craziest pick though, given they had barely escaped relegation the season before that. The others seem more or less reasonable based on the 2012/2013 finish - though it would've been reasonable to bump LFC up a notch or two as well given how we'd performed in the 2nd half of the 2012/2013 season.
Probably projecting a really good season for Benteke.
 
Probably projecting a really good season for Benteke.

Probably. Though how much more they expected from him would've been interesting to see. He scored 19 in the 2012/2013 season and he'd probably have had to bang in at least half a dozen more to pull them up those few places.

Speaking of whom, he actually might have been an interesting target for us. However, I'm generally wary about players who pick up archilles tendon or ankle injuries, and considering this one is supposed to lay him out for at least 6 months, I think we're right to swerve.
 
Probably. Though how much more they expected from him would've been interesting to see. He scored 19 in the 2012/2013 season and he'd probably have had to bang in at least half a dozen more to pull them up those few places.

Speaking of whom, he actually might have been an interesting target for us. However, I'm generally wary about players who pick up archilles tendon or ankle injuries, and considering this one is supposed to lay him out for at least 6 months, I think we're right to swerve.
Yeah, I think if he's available under 10M then it's a good investment. Not so much otherwise.

Granted Falcao is a pretty similar scenario.
 
I'd love to see how they're justifying United at third, considering they're evaluating teams as they currently are, and United still need to do a lot of business to have a chance of fourth.
 
They do have some very good column writers who cover the other leagues though; I like reading what they put out (Sid Lowe, Rafael Honigstein, Paolo Baldini). The rest, not so much, though it's sometimes quite fun to read Louise Taylor's pieces that take a dig at Newcastle. And Michael Cox's post-match reviews can sometimes be quite interesting.

And Jonathan Wilson, obviously.

Most people have us down for fifth, though. I don't mind that. Fuck 'em.
 
I'd love to see how they're justifying United at third, considering they're evaluating teams as they currently are, and United still need to do a lot of business to have a chance of fourth.

It's going to take a while for people to grasp quite how far Utd have fallen. They won't finish 3rd. No chance.
 
... and I bet some of them are SCM members, looking at their gloomy outlook for us. 😀

The collective prediction from them is that we'll finish 5th in the coming season, after (1) Chelsea, (2) City, (3) Man Utd (they're not up for preview yet but it's a no-brainer who they have in mind here since they're the only big club not previewed yet), (4) Arsenal.

Nothing groundbreaking in the article though. Just a summary of everything we already know.
The narrative is not bad, though. Lots of good points especially about the defence being the main reason behind our ultimately failing to clinch the title last season. If that can be tightened, the loss of Suarez can partially be mitigated. But that will not be enough as everybody else is improving.

And predicting 5th for Liverpool is a good place for fence sitters but I hope we stuff it to them as we did last season.
 
And Jonathan Wilson, obviously.

Most people have us down for fifth, though. I don't mind that. Fuck 'em.
We always seem to be written off, it's nice not to have any expectation. All the Arsenal boys down here who've been inexplicably quiet recently have started piping up again in the last few weeks. Apparently we haven't made one good signing, and they're convinced Rickie Lambert is our Suarez replacement, yet they can't recognise that they've done what they do every year and have bought another winger (ableit a very good one) without addressing their major shortcomings, however apparently that'll be enough to make them serious challengers and blow us away.
 
I'd love to see how they're justifying United at third, considering they're evaluating teams as they currently are, and United still need to do a lot of business to have a chance of fourth.

They've just done the preview for Liverpool and City, so United is tomorrow.
 
It's going to take a while for people to grasp quite how far Utd have fallen. They won't finish 3rd. No chance.
There is still plenty of chance for them to strengthen, so you never know, but in their current state, no. The reason I mention it is because in the United article, no doubt they'll keep saying that Van Gaal will bring in the better players they need before the transfer window shuts, yet our article reads like we'll finish fifth because we haven't signed a replacement yet.
 
It's an ok assessment, fair even. But we'll just have to do what we do, and prove the doubters wrong again.
 
Personally, I think choosing between Arsenal, Liverpool and United for 3rd, 4th, 5th is very difficult currently. The transfer window will probably change that, but currently I think Arsenal have the slight edge, and United are slightly behind, but no doubt Arsenal will sign someone new once their yearly playoff is out of the way, and United will spend, so getting that new striker, and getting the right striker (Reus) becomes vitally important for us. If those two strengthen accordingly, and we end up with Bony, maybe fifth would be right.
 
For comparison's sake, FourFourTwo has:

1. Chelsea
2. Arsenal
3. Manchester City
4. Manchester United
5. Liverpool
 
I'd love to see how they're justifying United at third, considering they're evaluating teams as they currently are, and United still need to do a lot of business to have a chance of fourth.

Judging from the opinions of many other Mancs ; LvG and no Euro football.
 
If we dont sign one more quality striker we can finish 5th, no doubt about that.
I think we will though and we'll finish 3rd.

They were always going say Utd will finish 4th. Its means fuck all of course. But I dont mind the media downplaying our chances as that worked out well last season.
 
If we dont sign one more quality striker we can finish 5th, no doubt about that.
I think we will though and we'll finish 3rd.

Alternatively... we could concede 30 fewer goals and finish first.

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Wait.. just noticed that there's fans watching the training session... this was held at Anfield.

Here's Manquillo "proper Johnson":

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Alternatively... we could concede 30 fewer goals and finish first.

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Yeah, agreed. I've been saying this aswell. The change in formation and addition of Lovren will see us concede fewer goals.
But we still need a striker.. 😉
 
They do have some very good column writers who cover the other leagues though; I like reading what they put out (Sid Lowe, Rafael Honigstein, Paolo Baldini). The rest, not so much, though it's sometimes quite fun to read Louise Taylor's pieces that take a dig at Newcastle. And Michael Cox's post-match reviews can sometimes be quite interesting.
I like Greg Bakowski too, he's a good red. Their Brazilian correspondent Fernando Duarte is a Liverpool supporter as well and can be quite entertaining.
 
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