Maybe Salah will be asked to do more now we don't have to rely on him so much for goals and assists. Or the extra goals we score might make up for extra vulnerability.
Has the Team Improved?
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Maybe Salah will be asked to do more now we don't have to rely on him so much for goals and assists. Or the extra goals we score might make up for extra vulnerability.
Hopefully Slots magic sponge is the ace up our sleeve. It worked last season.
For me it is all about Wirtz adapting as this new side is really built round him. He seems very intelligent, so I hope it doesn't take long to click.
You know that's not true. As good as early doors last season yet? No. But it'll come with these better players. Better than the team over the 2nd half of last season? Yes.
In don't know anything of the sort.
We didn't concede a goal for 4 game weeks last year.
We've got some better players but absolutely eviscerated depth. And this is assuming everyone settles perfectly. Right now we haven't got a fit right back. Our midfield balance is waaaaaay off. And our front 3 inarguably our only 3 attackers; as well have to see if slot has any intention of using chiesa consistently or Rio at all.
If we get guehi, he's better than quansah so good stuff. If we get Isak then wonderful, but we're still short on the flanks
It's tiny gains. Setting ourselves up long term, maybe. But if we either 1) kept Diaz, or 2) adding an extra winger, then absolutely we're much better
Salahs response to this question was "no. Well, it's tricky."
The midfield's the same! Gravenberch was just suspended, otherwise it's the same plus Wirtz maybe minus Elliott.
Defence is roughly the same - stronger at LB, maybe weaker at RB but that remains to be seen. CB is Leoni for Quansah - probably a slight short term downgrade but again remains to be seen.
Up front yeah the depth is an issue and needs to be addressed. But the first choices are better.
Agree with all that bar the RB being weaker. Even if we lose a little from the attack from Trent's passing we can make that up - goals are not the issue for us. Defensively RB was always a problem over the past couple of seasons, and targeted, when TAA was on the pitch. So defensively it's stronger (Frimpong's speed, to get back and shield, and Bradley (plus Gomez, Jones, Leoni and even Szobo could all play there at a pinch).
Midfield is still heavily dependent on wirtz performing. For him to come in we lose szob or Macca. I'm hopeful, but it's not a guarantee
Defence I agree. It's short term loss at the minute for hopeful long term gain.
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I'm new here. Was saying this with another group. We've upgraded some of our players, but only if we play them IN position. Playing Szoboszlai at right back isn't optimal. Playing Wirtz in a less than optimal position detracts from his value as a player that can beat a low block in his preferred position and we lessen his impact and his form will suffer. We run the chance of injuring Szoboszlai playing in that role, it raises the chance, plus we use Szoboszlai there so can't pull him on as a midfielder to give us a quality option. I realize this is just a temporary situation, but we're only one game in and already suffering injuries and gaps are already showing.
Then we've also got a new set of players that haven't gelled yet. So Wirtz trying his usual approach from Leverkusen isn't coming off. It will in time, but right now we look quite disjointed. I'm a fan of Slot, like his calmness. Like his approach up to a degree but we lack a few solid utility players, a few Milner types - I don't have a suggestion even, Milner was a bit of a diamond signing. Dependable, can play anywhere, are happy to play anywhere (Milner didn't like playing rightback incidentally, but would do anything for the team). One of two of these types of player and I'd feel a lot happier. That and Slot has to use them. Pointless if he keeps playing his preferred 11 until they're all jaded and run into the ground. We'll hit another brick wall 4/5th the way through the season like we did last year. Its just not sustainable. Plus if we lose a key player like Virg and we're screwed. I guess we're screwed no matter with that example, but last time he got taken out we at least had some level of cover. A raw 18 year old defender (no offense to Leoni) isn't going to work and right now and with CP holding us off signing Guehi with time ticking its making me a little bit nervous. Just my take.
I'm new here. Was saying this with another group. We've upgraded some of our players, but only if we play them IN position. Playing Szoboszlai at right back isn't optimal. Playing Wirtz in a less than optimal position detracts from his value as a player that can beat a low block in his preferred position and we lessen his impact and his form will suffer. We run the chance of injuring Szoboszlai playing in that role, it raises the chance, plus we use Szoboszlai there so can't pull him on as a midfielder to give us a quality option. I realize this is just a temporary situation, but we're only one game in and already suffering injuries and gaps are already showing.
Then we've also got a new set of players that haven't gelled yet. So Wirtz trying his usual approach from Leverkusen isn't coming off. It will in time, but right now we look quite disjointed. I'm a fan of Slot, like his calmness. Like his approach up to a degree but we lack a few solid utility players, a few Milner types - I don't have a suggestion even, Milner was a bit of a diamond signing. Dependable, can play anywhere, are happy to play anywhere (Milner didn't like playing rightback incidentally, but would do anything for the team). One of two of these types of player and I'd feel a lot happier. That and Slot has to use them. Pointless if he keeps playing his preferred 11 until they're all jaded and run into the ground. We'll hit another brick wall 4/5th the way through the season like we did last year. Its just not sustainable. Plus if we lose a key player like Virg and we're screwed. I guess we're screwed no matter with that example, but last time he got taken out we at least had some level of cover. A raw 18 year old defender (no offense to Leoni) isn't going to work and right now and with CP holding us off signing Guehi with time ticking its making me a little bit nervous. Just my take.
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As things stand I think the answer to the question "has the team improved" is clearly no. If Diaz has remained within the team then I would say that the answer is probably yes. But losing Jota, Diaz and Nunez is a big loss. It is hard to see how Wirtz (who is not a goal scorer but a midfielder), Frimpong (a right back that likes to go forward) and Ekitike can compensate for that.
I also personally remain unsatisfied with Gakpo. In my opinion he is very predictable, always goes to his right side to try and shoot. And doesn't know how to pass the ball into an open space/man. Here is a good example of that from the Newcastle game. He went to his right side for shot, like he always does. And he attracted four players around himself. And then HE STILL WENT FOR HIS SHOT because he also has a tendency to put his head down in such situations. Doesn't know how to distribute/pass. It is only after his shot was very predictable blocked that he passed the ball to Ekitike. It was a rebound, again, that led to Ekitike goal. A bit fortunate one must say.
Personally I have valued Diaz much above Gakpo. I think that Gakpo should've been Diaz's understudy. But Slot elevated his Dutch compatriot which infuriated Diaz and made it unbearable for him to remain within the club. Absent Diaz, Nunez and Jota the LFC now has to rely on scoring help from Chiesa and Ngumoha. That worked in the first couple of games and here is to hoping that it so continues.
I also personally remain unsatisfied with Gakpo. In my opinion he is very predictable, always goes to his right side to try and shoot. And doesn't know how to pass the ball into an open space/man. Here is a good example of that from the Newcastle game. He went to his right side for shot, like he always does. And he attracted four players around himself. And then HE STILL WENT FOR HIS SHOT because he also has a tendency to put his head down in such situations. Doesn't know how to distribute/pass. It is only after his shot was very predictable blocked that he passed the ball to Ekitike. It was a rebound, again, that led to Ekitike goal. A bit fortunate one must say.
Personally I have valued Diaz much above Gakpo. I think that Gakpo should've been Diaz's understudy. But Slot elevated his Dutch compatriot which infuriated Diaz and made it unbearable for him to remain within the club. Absent Diaz, Nunez and Jota the LFC now has to rely on scoring help from Chiesa and Ngumoha. That worked in the first couple of games and here is to hoping that it so continues.
You're fucking obsessed! Is this a case of the Bot doth protest too much? Are you a North Korean bot sent to sow discord?
A quick reminder here :
Over our last 10 games of last season our record was 4-2-4 and only once did we score more than 2 goals (5 times just the one goal). Yes there may be exonerating reasons but also worrying signs.
Now we look better than those 10 games and look to have goals galore in the team.
We have better players than those that have left or have been demoted (Kerkez over Robbo, Ekitike over Nunez/Jota, Frimpong over TAA (for me - esp. defensively) or Bradley (see my Bradders vs TAA thread from last season), Wirtz over Elliott etc., Mama over Kelleher (close) and Leoni over a non-existent 5th CB (assuming Guehi signs). Diaz the main loss IMO.
I have made an assumption re. Guehi (but I strongly believe that's getting done) and of course these players need to adapt to their colleagues, formations and tactics, but it is clearly a major upgrade for me - and if Isak arrives ...
We have secured the title during that spell so that your comparison framework is off.
We have brought in good players. That is true. But your statement is FALSE. We haven't brought in a replacement for Diaz. Ekitike could prove to be a better player than Nunez. That is true. We're still very weak.
WTF you on about. The title is over 38 games. Securing it in the last 10 just because of how we played in the previous 28 games doesn't change the fact we lost 4 (or won only 4) of the last ten games.
Again WTF you on about numbskull? It's not false because of one player when the others are all improvements. And I even mentioned Diaz as the sole loss dickbrain.
We can have a remarkable transfer window and still be weaker this season. The chances of all the transfers working out is zero, even less than the chance that they'll improve on a title winning side, in this number, all at once.
The time to figure out whether this is a good transfer window won't be now.
Most of our transfers were absolutely necessary.
The time to figure out whether this is a good transfer window won't be now.
Most of our transfers were absolutely necessary.
Truly, you sound like a bot. “They”?
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